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AR15.COM
2/21/2008 9:01:31 AM EDT
Anybody see this one yet?
www.liveleak.com/view?i=233_1203031330

WTF was the cop thinking and WTF was the captain thinking with his dumb ass jumping off a moving truck?
2/21/2008 9:03:48 AM EDT
[#1]
Dupalicious

And yes it is rediculous
2/21/2008 9:05:40 AM EDT
[#2]
Fire Fighter got himself arrested for failure to obey a lawful order.  Cop lost his temper and for got that Fire Fighters are his friends....Can't they all just get along?
2/21/2008 9:07:13 AM EDT
[#3]

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Fire Fighter got himself arrested for failure to obey a lawful order.  Cop lost his temper and for got that Fire Fighters are his friends....Can't they all just get along?


How is that a lawful order? If the cop got fined I don't see that it was a lawful order. The truck was there for everyones safety, including the cops.

We do the same thing on accident scenes and once in a while we have to remind the cops that fire scenes are under the control of the fire dept. while crime scenes are under control of the PD. At least that's the law in my state. For the most part cops love it when we block traffic so that we are all safe, but there have been a few colorful roadside discussions on the subject with some "whatever you do don't block traffic" mentalities. We are all on the same team and we all should be going home at the end of our shifts.

Screw the traffic
2/21/2008 10:35:43 AM EDT
[#4]
that engine and its crew are a certified emergency vehicle unit with authority to block that lane of traffic.  the officer has no authority that supercedes that in this instance.

on a person down/EMS/Fire/Rescue call, i know my role as LE and wouldn't not even think of interfering outside the scope of my duties.

that being said, i understand the political issues involved in blocking traffic on large metro interstates.  still no excuse, even if your chain of command hears about it from the mayor/governor.
2/21/2008 1:27:31 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Fire Fighter got himself arrested for failure to obey a lawful order.  Cop lost his temper and for got that Fire Fighters are his friends....Can't they all just get along?

That is NOT a lawful order, which is why the cop got in BIG trouble.
Fortunately, we get along great with the cops around here. They do their jobs, we do ours, help each other out occasionally, no one gets bent out of shape.
2/21/2008 1:31:16 PM EDT
[#6]
Seems like the cop just did not know his job/place this time around. I guess he knows now.
2/21/2008 2:12:28 PM EDT
[#7]
The only reason the fines only amounted to $18000 ($8000 for expenses and $10,000 punitive) was because the jury felt sorry for the cop and it was unclear who was going to pay, but it was pursued as a civil rights violation and could have been a lot worse for the cop.
2/21/2008 2:15:46 PM EDT
[#8]
Still it's funny stuff....
2/21/2008 3:05:28 PM EDT
[#9]
Wow.
2/21/2008 6:05:23 PM EDT
[#10]
Just seen the video. It could of been worse. Was any disciplinary action taken against the officer? In my career, I don't remember having had any problems with FD. Naturally, they had a thread about it on GD. It was titiled: "Another cop out of control".
2/21/2008 8:38:38 PM EDT
[#11]
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Quoted:
Just seen the video. It could of been worse. Was any disciplinary action taken against the officer? In my career, I don't remember having had any problems with FD. Naturally, they had a thread about it on GD. It was titiled: "Another cop out of control".


Same here but there has been a few instances where fire has caused some issues. About a year ago a hoser decided to smash out a patrol car window in order to run a hose instead of asking one of the cops on scene to move it. But for the most part we work together and if there is a disturbance they stage and when there is a fire we don't get in their way.

GJ
2/21/2008 9:20:10 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
The truck was there for everyones safety, including the cops.


While I have absolutely no problem with blocking traffic, the positioning of that unit makes it look like it was parked there because it was more convenient for the Captain.  Personally, when I'm blocking traffic I park between the oncoming traffic and whatever I'm blocking for...NOT right next to it.

And WTF is up with the guy jumping from the moving vehicle?  I think if I were the cop and had some huge bone to pick for whatever reason, instead of arresting him I'd just pinch him for illegally riding and no seatbelt
2/22/2008 7:53:16 AM EDT
[#13]
I cant believe in some places across the country Fire and Police are in such battles with each other.

Where I work We all get along great! The FD lets us use their bathrooms and facilities, and when we are on calls together they do their job, we do ours!  Hell we even have some substations attached to the firehouses so we can go write reports there.

2/22/2008 8:03:05 AM EDT
[#14]

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I cant believe in some places across the country Fire and Police are in such battles with each other.

Where I work We all get along great! The FD lets us use their bathrooms and facilities, and when we are on calls together they do their job, we do ours!  Hell we even have some substations attached to the firehouses so we can go write reports there.



Exactly.  Our hose draggers are good people.  I post up in the station house quite often for breaks.  Hell, they even give us the keys to the place.
2/22/2008 4:53:39 PM EDT
[#15]
We get along great with our firefighters......lately though we haven't been getting along very well with our EMTs
2/22/2008 6:09:01 PM EDT
[#16]
What everyone needs to think about is how do you think the guy in the car feels? I'm sure he lost a lot of confidence that day. Victim should have been the priority. They can dick around after he is on his way.
2/22/2008 6:19:35 PM EDT
[#17]

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What everyone needs to think about is how do you think the guy in the car feels? I'm sure he lost a lot of confidence that day. Victim should have been the priority. They can dick around after he is on his way.


+1

Whatever the dick measuring contest was truly about, the immediate focus should have been to rescue the victim, and make sure the scene was under control. This was not professionally handled.

I wonder if there is more to it than meets the eye though. Maybe the cop and the fire captain had a history?

It wouldn't excuse his behavior, but it might provide some insight as to why he acted the way he did.
2/22/2008 6:25:42 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
What everyone needs to think about is how do you think the guy in the car feels? I'm sure he lost a lot of confidence that day. Victim should have been the priority. They can dick around after he is on his way.


Agreed- bunch of Barney Fife looking dumbasses if you ask me.