Posted: 11/22/2007 3:08:50 PM EDT
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Is it just me or do just about all AR15 car rifles rack have a flaw that allows them to be partly defeated very easily? |
| One manufacturer Big Sky I think has metal shields to help slow his process down a bit, perhaps prevent it. A steel flat welded to the rack should just about prevent this if it fit close enough to the pins. I was also wondering if one was made with a lock that fit very close to the lower that would not allow it to be pried out of the rack. Just wondering? It seems the makers are missing something with a few of the designs I've seen. |
Ours is plated on both sides of the receiver. It covers it from behind the pistol grip to around the barrel nut. I'll see if I can find a picture online. If not it will be a while before I can get a pic from work. ETA...tufloc's website sucks. I found this on another website. It's the plate I was talking about. You must have to order the vertical rack and request this be added to it.  The hole on the side is actually a tube through the plate that the pistol grip sits on. The carbine goes in the rack mag first. The notch on the right side is to clear the brass deflector. Like I said, they are built like a tank but noisey as fuck. There is no padding at all inside the plates or on the tube. |
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We have had several attempts on our shotguns in the past decade. The Santa Cruz and the 870 is undefeatable by street idiots and one idiot destroyed the shotgun in an attempt to get the gun out before he was bitten by a dog and taken to jail. We are fielding about 50 M-16s and I don't want one to go missing in action and my admin knee jerk and shut down my expanded rifle program. Some of these locks you can get the lower off and pull a flat top upper through the lock and walk away with the gun in about 20 seconds. Might as well leave it on the seat under a jacket. We have lost about as many duty weapons from private residences as vehicles. So taking it inside is not THE answer. I take my weapons in at night to keep them safe and comfortable, make them feel loved, part of the family. I still clearly remember my daughter's phrase "Daddy's SHEEN Gun" Her reference to my machine gun I would bring in everynight. I think she was more excited to see my SHEEN gun than me sometimes. I've got a Big Sky with metal shields on my living room floor and my commando setup isn't working too well in it with my light and EO Tech. I'm limited to an overhead mount as my computer, printer, GPS tracker, metal console, power system, blanket dispenser for the homeless takes up between the seat space. God forbid I need that space for a GUN!!!!!!!!!!!I think I'm strapped into a fighter jet sometimes. I was going to T n E the most secure systems. Then THE answer would be to lock it in the trunk secure the trunk with a cable and lock during non duty time. Then use one of these snatch resistant locks in an overhead mount during duty hours. Pics of the tufloc mount are limited as you note. Thanks if you can help. |
The locking clamp goes around the barrel just in front of the front sight base. This could be a problem with weapon mounted lights. It is also the source of some of the noise. The clamp looks like it was designed to lock up an M72 anti-tank weapon. There are no inserts to reduce the inside diameter of the clamp to form a snug fit around the barrel. It floats around inside.
This pretty much eliminates our gun rack then. You would have to mount it over the passenger seat to keep from beating your brains out on the plates.
If you mounted it in the trunk as an off duty security measure it would be ideal. Like I said, you'd need a cutting torch to get the rifle out of it. I'm day shift Monday and Tuesday. I'll see if I can get a picture of it with our carbine in it. |
The ones we have use one of those tube style keys like the old pop machines used. It doesn't matter what you use to secure it, it can be defeated given enough time. |
LOL- the trailer suggestion has been made here. We get more stuff that is "required\mandatory" but nothing ever seems to be deleted and we get criticized for having a disorderly or messy vehicle from the clutter. (SUV's/no trunk). Not to mention our electronic shotgun mounts are below a door on the floor or the storage compartment (Durango's)......and all the shit in the storage compartment slides ontop of the door,.,....and then the timer runs out before you clear it. Yup, as handy as a two story outhouse. Sent 4 memo's no response yet. |
The rifle racks we have are so noisey a lot of CO's stuff them full of paper towel or newspaper to keep the noise from driving them crazy. I started taking the rifle out and laying on the floor between the seats. I got ragged on everytime a supervisor saw the rack empty. Even had comments like, "what if someone trys to grab it through the window"... I looked at him and said.."go ahead, give it a try"..  they finally gave up and ignore me now. |