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6/16/2007 9:37:29 AM EDT
My uncle does volunteer training with LEOs in his locale as an active "shooter".  The scenarios are usually hot car stops or barricaded suspects.  I was visiting him, and he showed me a little trick.

When the guys burst in, he'd throw down his gun and comply.  He'd hold his hands behind his back, pressing them into the small of his back.  They'd search him everywhere, but they'd forget his waistband under his fists (remember, he's pressing somewhat).  He'd then draw the Simunition .38 and shoot as he's being led away.

That's one place I'm going to not forget about.

Any other good ones?
6/16/2007 10:12:24 AM EDT
[#1]
That is the FIRST place you sweep!

Simple training.
6/16/2007 10:51:25 AM EDT
[#2]
Yep, sweep everywhere he can still get his hands when handcuffed. And separate his go-nads till you're sure he's not carrying anything.

There are so many new ways to conceal weapons now, you really have to stop and concentrate on the search. You can high-five your partners later at the station. With all the micro pistols hanging from chains around their necks, to the cell-phone guns and the steering wheel clubs that are actually shotgun round bang sticks.

We recently lost a brother here in Houston behind a missed weapon on the search. The guy was handcuffed in the back seat and was able to shoot the officer in the front seat. Until, they start building the back seat of the patrol vehicles to be bulletproof, SLOW DOWN AND SEARCH THE SUSPECT COMPLETELY.

EVEN IF SOMEONE ELSE SAYS THEY SEARCHED YOUR SUSPECT AND PUT HIM OR HER IN YOUR CAR, PULL HIS OR HER ASS OUT AND SEARCH THEM AGAIN TILL YOU ARE SURE THAT PERSON DOES NOT HAVE A WEAPON. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE GOT LAZY, POP THE BACK SEAT OUT AND SEARCH THE BACK SEAT OF YOUR CAR BEFORE AND AFTER YOU PUT THE SUSPECT IN THERE.

AND CUT OUT THAT DAMN HANDCUFFING THE PRISONERS HANDS IN FRONT OF THEM.hey
Sorry don't mean to yell, but I'm tired of seeing my brothers getting killed over something that could have easily been avoided.

Everyone be safe!
6/16/2007 1:50:11 PM EDT
[#3]
Be methodical.   Search in overlapping qtrs.   Don't be offended if someone re-searches your prisoner.... Encourage it.    (never know when you'll have that off moment)

Check your seats before and after transport.    

Don't let anyone (non police)have contact with your prisoner after you have searched.

If you are transporting to jail..   Put all property in the bag before transport.
6/16/2007 7:06:37 PM EDT
[#4]
Allways,and I mean ALLWAYS cuff first. They can come off as qiuck as they are put on.Take away the biggest threat, the hands.
6/16/2007 8:36:18 PM EDT
[#5]
All of the comments are right one. I'll share some experiences as a role player from my pre-LE days. I am now a sworn auxiliary.

I role played at our academy for 5 years before I applied with my agency. My favorite scenarios were domestics and car stops. I used to wear a lot of bdu's and would stick a handcuff key in the one of the large pockets on the thigh. I made sure to get the key to lay flat in the seam. EVERYBODY missed it during searches and was a great asset to me. Search all pockets extremely well. I turn pockets inside out when ever I can in case I missed anything in the bottom/seams.

Also, sometimes the best place to hide something is in plain site. I once put a universal pen style handcuff key in my polo shirt in between the buttons. On first glance it looked like a pen and no one questioned it or took it. Once in my cuffs I was able to grab it and remove one of the cuffs.



Be safe everyone.