Posted: 3/27/2003 10:33:19 AM EDT
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Can you verify this as fact/dispel it as urban legend? I have been given the impression that I can go to the local HQ, volunteer for some kind of chump work like sweeping the range or something, and get credentialed as a part of the department, allowing me to carry concealed. What sayest thou of the thin blue line? BTW, I live in Maple Heights Ohio.... Thanks in advance. Scott |
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I would highly doubt this. I don't work in OH and I'm not familar with their laws but I can't see a department giving a volunteer credentials to carry concealed. It would be like saying that the janitor is part of the department because he/she cleans up. My gut is telling me that unless you are at least a part time employee ( depending on dept. policy) you would not be able to carry concealed. There are many reasons for this the biggest being no training (or the cost of training non-enforcement personel) and more liability for the department. If you really want to know, go down to your local law enforcement and ask. |
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Scottman, These are the only ways you can carry concealed in Ohio LEGALLY: (as far as I am aware of) 1. Be a sworn LEO and have permission from your department head to carry concealed off duty in your jurisdiction. That does not cover you out of your jurisdiction, BUT most other cops would not bust you if you were a LEO and you were otherwise behaving... But it's totally their discretion. ORC 2923.12 Carrying Concealed Weapons says: "this section does not apply to officers, agents, or employees of Ohio or any other state or the United States or to law enforcement officers authorized to carry deadly weapons or dangerous ordnance and acting within the scope of their duties, to any on duty security officer employed by the board or governing body, or to any other person acting pursuant to written authorization to convey or possess deadly weapons or dangerous ordnance..." As quoted from Anderson's 2002-2 Ohio Criminal Code. 2. You have an affirmative defense, such as you make large bank deposits, AND you are actually going to or from the bank. This clause does not cover you if you get in a bar fight and arrested, and the cop finds your piece... Other afirmative defenses would be if you are in fear of your life ie: being stocked by someone, etc. etc. This comes down to you will be charged with the crime of CCW and have to affirmatively defend your actions in court. (If the prosecutor is a dick or anti-gunner.) 3. Be on duty for a LE agency, security company, armored car company etc.... My department policy unfortunately does not support CCW. We are told we are totally on our own if we choose to carry off duty. They trust me with a 27' $110k Boston Whaler but not with a pistol on my ankle... [rolleyes] SO we need to pressure Taft to pass the pending CCW legislation! |
| Yes, I have seem some things similiar to that, but it was here in Oklahoma. I saw a Chief of a small municipality issue a comission to a buddy of his who was a wrecker driver with no law enforcement experience or certification and no intent to get any. I've seen a former County Sheriff issue Reserve Deputy commissions to people (who, after checking backgrounds failed to pass due to criminal history and then had to be revoked) simply because he wanted votes. In Oklahoma a person who is commissioned may work for a period of one year as an officer (police powers/authority and concealed carry state wide) without going to the Police academy and becoming a certified officer. After that time the officer must either go to the academy or be moved into a non-commissioned position. |