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12/11/2013 4:45:23 AM EDT
Hey guys, just wanted to share an AAR from a wreck last week.  It's amazing how we get locked into a certain way of thinking.  For example, in addition to full time LEO, my agency requires me to be an EMT as well.  I have 5 CAT's in my truck and one on my person.  The way we (domestic LE) train for TCCC, these are for gunshot trauma wounds, self-aid, buddy-aid, etc.  Most of us hadn't carried a CAT in our EMS jump kits until recently.  Glad we did.




    All:

    As you know, a couple years ago we made the commitment to purchasing high quality equipment and to improving our training in the areas of high risk law enforcement and tactical EMS. As part of that training, you've probably heard me say (1) carry your CAT on your person and (2) this equipment is meant for you and your peers, not the public.

    Last week, in xxxxxxxxxxxxx, we treated a patient with an open humerus fracture with uncontrolled bleeding. By the time we arrived, the patient had lost a great deal of blood. After a brief time of working to fashion a tourniquet out of triangular bandages, the decision was made to use one of our CAT's on the patient. The CAT was extremely effective and, according to ER docs, was instrumental in saving the patient's life.

    I fully believe that the training we've done was invaluable in helping us to make an informed, timely and confident decision to intervene with a life saving tool. I'm happy to report that our patient is expected to make a full recovery.

    The result was great, but we learned some things during the incident that are worth mentioning.

  • We've all seen soft tissue injuries, but they are not all created equal. This one looked like a raw chicken turned inside out. The type of wound will effect how it bleeds. If the wound isn't "clean" you may not see textbook arterial bleeding.


  • In our case there was A LOT of blood, but no pulsating arterial fountain. Finding the source of the bleeding was next to impossible. It just sort of cascaded out of the tissue. The important facts were that blood was still hitting the ground, it was bright red and there was no way to stop it with direct pressure, elevation and dressings. The lesson is, it might not look like a duck, but if it's waddling around and quacking, treat it like a duck. You have to stop the bleeding.


  • We've been training on one handed application of the CAT and have them preloaded with the loop already in it. This arm was too mangled to move around so we had to unloop the strap and weave it under the arm and through the armpit. We really struggled with it for a while because I hadn't completely cut away the back side of the patient's coat. EXPOSE the wound as much as you can. It could save you a lot of frustration and time.


  • The CAT works really well. Our patient was a very large person, but I think it only took one full 360 degree turn of the windlass rod to get the blood flow to stop.


  • Your adrenaline makes you want to keep turning the windlass rod. Slow down. No sense in cutting the limb off.


  • Once you think the blood flow has stopped, check and keep checking. Everything is going to be covered in blood. It's hard to tell if it's still flowing, so take your time and be sure you really have it controlled.


  • Expect the limb to start looking really bad. Our patient's arm swelled and turned a dark, mottled purple. She complained about the arm going numb. It's easy to start second guessing if you're doing more harm than good, but you have to trust your training and your diagnosis.


  • Carry your CAT on your person. When you need it, you need quick.


  • After this experience, I wouldn't mess with triangular bandages or belts or anything other than a CAT. If you have a patient that needs a tourniquet, use your CAT. We will replace it.


  • Talk to your patient. They've probably heard bad things about tourniquets too.




spf

12/11/2013 9:48:06 AM EDT
[#1]
Sounds like it went well. What's with the hesitation to use the CATs? I don't really understand the logic of trying to jerry rig a tourniquet when you have a purpose built tourniquet on hand.
12/11/2013 7:21:10 PM EDT
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If you are to the point a TQ is being employed you need to use the best you have IMO. In my experience it is much easier to control the amount of constriction with a quality TQ than a field expedient version and they are faster (with practice) as well. I don't understand the fear of a TQ, if you apply it properly and plan on making it to the hospital any time soon you'll be A-OK.

Thanks for the AAR, I always like reading them for perspective and ideas. Also, I chuckled when you said "trust your diagnosis." I heard my EMS instructor's voice harping on "suspected" injuries or illness. Yes, his femur might make a right angle but it is a suspected FX until a doc says so.
12/11/2013 9:42:12 PM EDT
[#3]

Yeah,  all good points.  Especially the "diagnosis" part!  I can hear the instructor correcting me as well.  But this ain't no legal proceeding.  And since I find many of my patients in locations  that might be 1 to 2 to 10 hours away from definitive care, a "field diagnosis" will help guide my treatment.  

I suppose the reason I posted this is because many cops aren't integrating what are trained as two completely separate disciplines, if you will.  For example, years ago, when I first became a range instructor, during the safety briefing, I would discuss the med plan and lay a gunshot trauma kit on the table.   I was hoping this would become standard procedure but none of the other FI's followed suit.  I brought this up at a meeting and was told, why bother with that little first aid kit, we have our EMS jump kits.  The funny thing is that none of those big honkin packs had a tourniquet or hem con beyond normal dressings.  

The incident the other day was totally the opposite.  It was the typical sleeting, rainy MVA scene - not the scene of a shooting.   Everyone was locked into EMS mode - not TCCC mode.  In the heat of the moment, a TQ was not even on the radar.  I'm not making excuses rather just trying to get a handle on what happened and why.  Thanks for your comment guys.


spf





12/12/2013 4:24:14 PM EDT
[#4]
I really don't understand why many EMS services don't carry at least one CAT.
12/12/2013 5:04:12 PM EDT
[#5]
We have deployed 100s in our system in OK. We have had great success with the CAT.
12/14/2013 5:56:09 AM EDT
[#6]
It's almost funny how much non-mil organizations pretend CATs are for door-kickers and overseas.  One of our firearms instructors mentioned, once, that we should all have one and use it, but our actual first aid training was just standard Red Cross CPR cert, that's all...their 'control the bleeding' information was either wrong or irrelevant.  Hell, we didn't even really cover dehydration/hyperthermia, and that's what actually kills people in our AO (rural SE Texas).  I understand, our primary mission isn't EMS but CAT training is not rocket science or particularly lengthy, and it saves lives.  Oh well, someone above my pay grade doesn't think it's important.
12/14/2013 1:55:23 PM EDT
[#7]
So, we also carry CATs as well as the Israeli pressure dressing. One thing that has been coming around in the EMS world (thanks to the guys in the military that have made sacrifices I can't imagine) is that tourniquets can be left on a LONG time before you have much risk of loss of limb. So use them early if you think you may need them. Early application coupled with a really extended transport time may cost someone a limb, but it may well save their life. Good job OP. Someone will get to see another Christmas because of your appropriate timely action. Good for you, be proud.
12/14/2013 9:06:50 PM EDT
[#8]
Thanks for the write-up. Always nice to have the information.

Glad everyone went home safe.
12/15/2013 4:24:33 PM EDT
[#9]
I have one on my vest at all times. Unfortunately our agency does not pay for them or outright authorize them.
12/16/2013 7:17:24 AM EDT
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I know how you feel.  Years ago I bought 2 of my own.  I may be a cheap cop but my life and the lives of my buddies is important to me.  I also picked up a blue training CAT on ebay for station use.  Since then I've moved to a more supportive agency and am now flush with the things.

spf


12/16/2013 11:13:54 AM EDT
[#11]
Great information, thank you.
12/16/2013 7:16:25 PM EDT
[#12]
I have a feeling that any LEO in or region that wants a CAT has one thanks to the EMS system here. That goes for HALOs too.
12/17/2013 8:53:31 PM EDT
[#13]
Great info, thanks.  I have one that I carried when I wore an external vest carrier.  You reminded me of this and I just went online and ordered the kydex duty belt holder for one of these.
12/18/2013 3:21:13 AM EDT
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Sounds like it went well. What's with the hesitation to use the CATs? I don't really understand the logic of trying to jerry rig a tourniquet when you have a purpose built tourniquet on hand.
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Maybe cost? Kind of a penny pinching move, but we've all seen examples of that in action
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I had to rip open my car first aid kit at a serious PI car/ped accident last week.
Most of our guys practice the saying "never beat EMTs to the scene".
I literally drove up on a scene where a passing doc had stopped to help with the meager car first aid kit she had and was running out of supplies. EMTs were a long way away and I threw my car bag to her for additional supplies.
Normally our bags are sealed shut so during inspections they know the contents are intact.
The Sgt in charge of maintaining them has complained that the kits get used so rarely that the contents dry rot.
So here I am providing aid and afterwards I get grief because now they're going to have to buy a new kit for the car.
I think I'm gonna go back to carrying my personal kit on shift. It is better equipped anyway.

OP. I hope they pay you more for jumping through the hoops of being an EMT