Posted: 1/4/2011 11:47:23 PM EDT
| I just noticed there was a Firefighter one class advertised by my regional training agency. Just curious as to what I can expect in this class? |
This is fire.  Fire is h-o-t HOT.This is water. Water puts out fire. Any questions?  J/K. A quick Google led me to this: Tillamook County FF I Academy |
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This is fire. Fire is h-o-t HOT.
This is water. Water puts out fire. Any questions?
Thanks bud! J/K. A quick Google led me to this: Tillamook County FF I Academy |
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Keep your mouth shut, ears and eyes open, and you will learn a lot. I went through the Burlington County New Jersey fire academy many years ago and it was amazing. I guess it is an introductory fire class and I have some experience, well not in structures but I guess that is the point. I guess I will also be lucky enough to take possession of about $5000 dollars in fire gear. Turnouts, scba, tanks, wildland gear etc. What are the best ways to prevent this stuff from getting stolen? |
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Keep your mouth shut, ears and eyes open, and you will learn a lot. I went through the Burlington County New Jersey fire academy many years ago and it was amazing. I guess it is an introductory fire class and I have some experience, well not in structures but I guess that is the point. I guess I will also be lucky enough to take possession of about $5000 dollars in fire gear. Turnouts, scba, tanks, wildland gear etc. What are the best ways to prevent this stuff from getting stolen? If I wasn't wearing it, it was locked in my truck. The only thing that was accessable to others was the bottle of my SCBA during refills. |
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Keep your mouth shut, ears and eyes open, and you will learn a lot. I went through the Burlington County New Jersey fire academy many years ago and it was amazing. I guess it is an introductory fire class and I have some experience, well not in structures but I guess that is the point. I guess I will also be lucky enough to take possession of about $5000 dollars in fire gear. Turnouts, scba, tanks, wildland gear etc. What are the best ways to prevent this stuff from getting stolen? If I wasn't wearing it, it was locked in my truck. The only thing that was accessable to others was the bottle of my SCBA during refills. Great. Yeah I was thinking of locking it in my pickup but wasn't sure how reasonable it would be to access it. I'm damn glad my dept got new lighter SCBAS those sumbitches are nice. |
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Fire and firefighting is for the most part pretty straight forward. If you pay attention and listen you will do well. However, not everyone can look the dragon in the eye and then piss all over him. Yeah I like it, something a guy like me can do. I've always wanted a structure experience yet at my dept very small rural we get like 1 house fire a year. Its actually a good thing, but it just sucks for practicals. |
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Keep your mouth shut, ears and eyes open, and you will learn a lot. I went through the Burlington County New Jersey fire academy many years ago and it was amazing. I guess it is an introductory fire class and I have some experience, well not in structures but I guess that is the point. I guess I will also be lucky enough to take possession of about $5000 dollars in fire gear. Turnouts, scba, tanks, wildland gear etc. What are the best ways to prevent this stuff from getting stolen? If I wasn't wearing it, it was locked in my truck. The only thing that was accessable to others was the bottle of my SCBA during refills. I kinda find it odd that they are going to issue you a tank and a BA. That would imply that you could run into a burning building before the necessary support equipment arrives. Firefighting is not a one man game. |
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Keep your mouth shut, ears and eyes open, and you will learn a lot. I went through the Burlington County New Jersey fire academy many years ago and it was amazing. I guess it is an introductory fire class and I have some experience, well not in structures but I guess that is the point. I guess I will also be lucky enough to take possession of about $5000 dollars in fire gear. Turnouts, scba, tanks, wildland gear etc. What are the best ways to prevent this stuff from getting stolen? If I wasn't wearing it, it was locked in my truck. The only thing that was accessable to others was the bottle of my SCBA during refills. I kinda find it odd that they are going to issue you a tank and a BA. That would imply that you could run into a burning building before the necessary support equipment arrives. Firefighting is not a one man game. For practicals. It largely depends upon the department also, more then 2 out is a luxury the big guys have. Rural guys not so much and we need to make entry quick in case of entrapment. |
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Keep your mouth shut, ears and eyes open, and you will learn a lot. I went through the Burlington County New Jersey fire academy many years ago and it was amazing. I guess it is an introductory fire class and I have some experience, well not in structures but I guess that is the point. I guess I will also be lucky enough to take possession of about $5000 dollars in fire gear. Turnouts, scba, tanks, wildland gear etc. What are the best ways to prevent this stuff from getting stolen? If I wasn't wearing it, it was locked in my truck. The only thing that was accessable to others was the bottle of my SCBA during refills. I kinda find it odd that they are going to issue you a tank and a BA. That would imply that you could run into a burning building before the necessary support equipment arrives. Firefighting is not a one man game. For practicals. It largely depends upon the department also, more then 2 out is a luxury the big guys have. Rural guys not so much and we need to make entry quick in case of entrapment. Gotcha, makes sense for practicals but it will never make sense for an individual(in my experience and eyes) to have the equipment to enter a burning building in a POV. I started out as a volunteer in a small department which pondered the exact same question. It all came down to accountability. If you are the first one there and enter the structure, how many entrapments will they be trying to rescue if things go wrong. |
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Keep your mouth shut, ears and eyes open, and you will learn a lot. I went through the Burlington County New Jersey fire academy many years ago and it was amazing. I guess it is an introductory fire class and I have some experience, well not in structures but I guess that is the point. I guess I will also be lucky enough to take possession of about $5000 dollars in fire gear. Turnouts, scba, tanks, wildland gear etc. What are the best ways to prevent this stuff from getting stolen? If I wasn't wearing it, it was locked in my truck. The only thing that was accessable to others was the bottle of my SCBA during refills. I kinda find it odd that they are going to issue you a tank and a BA. That would imply that you could run into a burning building before the necessary support equipment arrives. Firefighting is not a one man game. I checked my tank and BA out on the nights before practicals. I didn't want to lug that around in my car anymore than I had to. Turnouts stay in the trunk and I forgo any identifying decals except a very small dep't decal. |
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Keep your mouth shut, ears and eyes open, and you will learn a lot. I went through the Burlington County New Jersey fire academy many years ago and it was amazing. I guess it is an introductory fire class and I have some experience, well not in structures but I guess that is the point. I guess I will also be lucky enough to take possession of about $5000 dollars in fire gear. Turnouts, scba, tanks, wildland gear etc. What are the best ways to prevent this stuff from getting stolen? If I wasn't wearing it, it was locked in my truck. The only thing that was accessable to others was the bottle of my SCBA during refills. I kinda find it odd that they are going to issue you a tank and a BA. That would imply that you could run into a burning building before the necessary support equipment arrives. Firefighting is not a one man game. For practicals. It largely depends upon the department also, more then 2 out is a luxury the big guys have. Rural guys not so much and we need to make entry quick in case of entrapment. Gotcha, makes sense for practicals but it will never make sense for an individual(in my experience and eyes) to have the equipment to enter a burning building in a POV. I started out as a volunteer in a small department which pondered the exact same question. It all came down to accountability. If you are the first one there and enter the structure, how many entrapments will they be trying to rescue if things go wrong. Oh I get what you mean now. Yeah it depends, for example in summer when I was working out in the country I through my wildland gear in my pickup. Simply because I would miss the first due out and it would make sense to be able to get from where I am to where I need to go. However, really no reason to carry turnouts IMHO. Too much risk and potential for bad things. In my situation, this is just for training. |
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its a good time. if you have the time do it. Its everything other weekend for 2 days, from like nine to 5. From march to july. If anything it will be good because its a paid vacation to get away from college. Although the vacation isn't all that gloriious its a change and I wanna get my skills certified. |
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Keep your mouth shut, ears and eyes open, and you will learn a lot. I went through the Burlington County New Jersey fire academy many years ago and it was amazing. I guess it is an introductory fire class and I have some experience, well not in structures but I guess that is the point. I guess I will also be lucky enough to take possession of about $5000 dollars in fire gear. Turnouts, scba, tanks, wildland gear etc. What are the best ways to prevent this stuff from getting stolen? If I wasn't wearing it, it was locked in my truck. The only thing that was accessable to others was the bottle of my SCBA during refills. I kinda find it odd that they are going to issue you a tank and a BA. That would imply that you could run into a burning building before the necessary support equipment arrives. Firefighting is not a one man game. For practicals. It largely depends upon the department also, more then 2 out is a luxury the big guys have. Rural guys not so much and we need to make entry quick in case of entrapment. Gotcha, makes sense for practicals but it will never make sense for an individual(in my experience and eyes) to have the equipment to enter a burning building in a POV. I started out as a volunteer in a small department which pondered the exact same question. It all came down to accountability. If you are the first one there and enter the structure, how many entrapments will they be trying to rescue if things go wrong. Oh I get what you mean now. Yeah it depends, for example in summer when I was working out in the country I through my wildland gear in my pickup. Simply because I would miss the first due out and it would make sense to be able to get from where I am to where I need to go. However, really no reason to carry turnouts IMHO. Too much risk and potential for bad things. In my situation, this is just for training. I guess we will go back and forth until we get it right  . I have no problem with a FF having turnout gear in their POV(i did) but they should never have the ability to enter a structure until the proper equipment arrives to provide backup and support their efforts. That is just a death wish and a life insurance payout waiting to happen.
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Keep your mouth shut, ears and eyes open, and you will learn a lot. I went through the Burlington County New Jersey fire academy many years ago and it was amazing. I guess it is an introductory fire class and I have some experience, well not in structures but I guess that is the point. I guess I will also be lucky enough to take possession of about $5000 dollars in fire gear. Turnouts, scba, tanks, wildland gear etc. What are the best ways to prevent this stuff from getting stolen? If I wasn't wearing it, it was locked in my truck. The only thing that was accessable to others was the bottle of my SCBA during refills. I kinda find it odd that they are going to issue you a tank and a BA. That would imply that you could run into a burning building before the necessary support equipment arrives. Firefighting is not a one man game. For practicals. It largely depends upon the department also, more then 2 out is a luxury the big guys have. Rural guys not so much and we need to make entry quick in case of entrapment. Gotcha, makes sense for practicals but it will never make sense for an individual(in my experience and eyes) to have the equipment to enter a burning building in a POV. I started out as a volunteer in a small department which pondered the exact same question. It all came down to accountability. If you are the first one there and enter the structure, how many entrapments will they be trying to rescue if things go wrong. Oh I get what you mean now. Yeah it depends, for example in summer when I was working out in the country I through my wildland gear in my pickup. Simply because I would miss the first due out and it would make sense to be able to get from where I am to where I need to go. However, really no reason to carry turnouts IMHO. Too much risk and potential for bad things. In my situation, this is just for training. I guess we will go back and forth until we get it right . I have no problem with a FF having turnout gear in their POV(i did) but they should never have the ability to enter a structure until the proper equipment arrives to provide backup and support their efforts. That is just a death wish and a life insurance payout waiting to happen.Yeah exactly I couldn't agree more. Wish I would have some critical thinking from the start would have saved us both some typing.  I working a rural volunteer department am stuck in a precarious spot. I like a lot of the guys, but some of them join for IDK what reason. I'm sure you know what I mean the super fire fighter types. Sometimes its just too much, fire apparel every day, a shit ton of stickers on their povs etc. We also have more nefarious types who do it because for whatever reason they enjoy gore. We had a MVA here a while back with a truck and a motorcycle. Motorcyclist was clearly dead a horrible mess and a firefighter was wanting to put them on facebook. That plan promptly got 86ed by command. Command is good and I really enjoy the older people who are damn funny and I have learned alot about everything, including life. I spend more time with firefighters outside of the fire hall than in, great relationships.
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Keep your mouth shut, ears and eyes open, and you will learn a lot. I went through the Burlington County New Jersey fire academy many years ago and it was amazing. I guess it is an introductory fire class and I have some experience, well not in structures but I guess that is the point. I guess I will also be lucky enough to take possession of about $5000 dollars in fire gear. Turnouts, scba, tanks, wildland gear etc. What are the best ways to prevent this stuff from getting stolen? If I wasn't wearing it, it was locked in my truck. The only thing that was accessable to others was the bottle of my SCBA during refills. I kinda find it odd that they are going to issue you a tank and a BA. That would imply that you could run into a burning building before the necessary support equipment arrives. Firefighting is not a one man game. It wasn't issued...I swung by and signed out my scba on my way to class. |
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Keep your mouth shut, ears and eyes open, and you will learn a lot. I went through the Burlington County New Jersey fire academy many years ago and it was amazing. I guess it is an introductory fire class and I have some experience, well not in structures but I guess that is the point. I guess I will also be lucky enough to take possession of about $5000 dollars in fire gear. Turnouts, scba, tanks, wildland gear etc. What are the best ways to prevent this stuff from getting stolen? If I wasn't wearing it, it was locked in my truck. The only thing that was accessable to others was the bottle of my SCBA during refills. I kinda find it odd that they are going to issue you a tank and a BA. That would imply that you could run into a burning building before the necessary support equipment arrives. Firefighting is not a one man game. It wasn't issued...I swung by and signed out my scba on my way to class. From your department or training agency issued? Mine will be department issued, so I better be dam careful unless I want to get smoked haha.
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As stated above, Mouth closed ears open. Listen to the old guys if there are any. Most of the FF1 classes are bullshit now, it teaches enough to get you into trouble. You'll learn more running calls and listening to those old guys that love to ride your ass. They have forgotten more than you'll ever know.
Should you decide to take it, don't become a 2/20 when you are finished. 2 years on the job, with 20 years experience. Good luck!! |
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As stated above, Mouth closed ears open. Listen to the old guys if there are any. Most of the FF1 classes are bullshit now, it teaches enough to get you into trouble. You'll learn more running calls and listening to those old guys that love to ride your ass. They have forgotten more than you'll ever know. Should you decide to take it, don't become a 2/20 when you are finished. 2 years on the job, with 20 years experience. Good luck!! Fantastic, I've been a fire fighter for over a year now. Respondering to MVAS, med assists, wildland fires etc. So I would like to consider myself having enough skill to know when I am in over my head and back out. On a good note, I am no longer the rookie bitch. I've been accepted and harrassed like everyone else but in good fun.
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Fire and firefighting is for the most part pretty straight forward. If you pay attention and listen you will do well. However, not everyone can look the dragon in the eye and then piss all over him. You would think so but not really. Ever been steamed cause some dip shit used the wrong nozzel setting? How many people know the right way to use foam without being shown? How about when and when not to ventilate? There is much that can and should be learned. |
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Fire and firefighting is for the most part pretty straight forward. If you pay attention and listen you will do well. However, not everyone can look the dragon in the eye and then piss all over him. You would think so but not really. Ever been steamed cause some dip shit used the wrong nozzel setting? How many people know the right way to use foam without being shown? How about when and when not to ventilate? There is much that can and should be learned. I never said there wasn't a lot to learn, I just said it should be easy if you pay attention and listen. And yes I have been steamed many times. |
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Fire and firefighting is for the most part pretty straight forward. If you pay attention and listen you will do well. However, not everyone can look the dragon in the eye and then piss all over him. You would think so but not really. Ever been steamed cause some dip shit used the wrong nozzel setting? How many people know the right way to use foam without being shown? How about when and when not to ventilate? There is much that can and should be learned. I never said there wasn't a lot to learn, I just said it should be easy if you pay attention and listen. And yes I have been steamed many times. Are you guys talking about using the widest nozzle setting to create a water shield against a fire? |
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Fire and firefighting is for the most part pretty straight forward. If you pay attention and listen you will do well. However, not everyone can look the dragon in the eye and then piss all over him. You would think so but not really. Ever been steamed cause some dip shit used the wrong nozzel setting? How many people know the right way to use foam without being shown? How about when and when not to ventilate? There is much that can and should be learned. I never said there wasn't a lot to learn, I just said it should be easy if you pay attention and listen. And yes I have been steamed many times. Are you guys talking about using the widest nozzle setting to create a water shield against a fire? |
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Fire and firefighting is for the most part pretty straight forward. If you pay attention and listen you will do well. However, not everyone can look the dragon in the eye and then piss all over him. You would think so but not really. Ever been steamed cause some dip shit used the wrong nozzel setting? How many people know the right way to use foam without being shown? How about when and when not to ventilate? There is much that can and should be learned. I never said there wasn't a lot to learn, I just said it should be easy if you pay attention and listen. And yes I have been steamed many times. Are you guys talking about using the widest nozzle setting to create a water shield against a fire? It can happen anytime you put water on a fire but it does generally happen more often when you are using a fog nozzle and there is a rookie involved.
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Fire and firefighting is for the most part pretty straight forward. If you pay attention and listen you will do well. However, not everyone can look the dragon in the eye and then piss all over him. You would think so but not really. Ever been steamed cause some dip shit used the wrong nozzel setting? How many people know the right way to use foam without being shown? How about when and when not to ventilate? There is much that can and should be learned. I never said there wasn't a lot to learn, I just said it should be easy if you pay attention and listen. And yes I have been steamed many times. Are you guys talking about using the widest nozzle setting to create a water shield against a fire? It can happen anytime you put water on a fire but it does generally happen more often when you are using a fog nozzle and there is a rookie involved. Hahah, is said rookie first on the attack? |
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Fire and firefighting is for the most part pretty straight forward. If you pay attention and listen you will do well. However, not everyone can look the dragon in the eye and then piss all over him. You would think so but not really. Ever been steamed cause some dip shit used the wrong nozzel setting? How many people know the right way to use foam without being shown? How about when and when not to ventilate? There is much that can and should be learned. I never said there wasn't a lot to learn, I just said it should be easy if you pay attention and listen. And yes I have been steamed many times. Are you guys talking about using the widest nozzle setting to create a water shield against a fire? It can happen anytime you put water on a fire but it does generally happen more often when you are using a fog nozzle and there is a rookie involved. Hahah, is said rookie first on the attack? Yep, usually.
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Just got the paperwork filled out so it looks like we are good to go! I wonder what the instructors are oging to say since I have already completed a lot of the training and the NIMS is almost done. I wonder if I will get the privelege of pushing down the green earth, for my good work? 
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Quoted: Are you guys talking about using the widest nozzle setting to create a water shield against a fire? We learned about the concept of the "water curtain" in the academy (right after being shown how to refuel the kerosene lanterns and put the harness on the horses). The idea was to position a fan-shaped spray of water between the fire building and nearby structures - it was supposed to absorb the heat from a fire and keep it from getting to the exposure. It was proven to be a fallacy. The water cannot simply fan between the fire and the exposure, it has to be directed at the exposure. So we learned we could still use the "water curtain" nozzles... just direct the spray onto the exposure. Quoted: It can happen anytime you put water on a fire but it does generally happen more often when you are using a fog nozzle and there is a rookie involved. One of the (MANY) reasons you need to learn and master fire behavior. After the fog nozzle was developed by Howard Freeman for use in shipboard firefighting, the fire service "change monsters" (fire equipment sallesmen) started hawking them as the "new, modern" alternative to the "old fashioned" smooth bore tips, and talked about "reducing water damage". It took years of us getting lobstered and killing firefighters by ignoring the hard-learned lessons of our forefathers before a few things happened. 1) the "smothering" effect of a steam conversion attack on a fire requires an intact compartment. The beauty of using a fog tip in a cargo hold is that you can spray the water, close the hatches and let the fire smother itself, without having to put a crew into an oven to pull stuff apart. Great idea, except we don't work in metal shipboard compartments - our spaces have windows, the breaking of which greatly reduces the efficiency of such an attack. 2) Fog attacks have less reach than a smooth bore attack, so instead of using the doorway as cover and shooting the ceiling, we had to enter the room, putting us deeper into the heated environment, and within the area of the cloud when it converts. 3) using a smooth bore attack doesn't disrupt the thermal balance of an active fire like complete steam conversion does. Steaming a compartment changes the environment from 1400 at ceiling and 200 at floor fo a uniform 300 throughout. Again, not a problem in an unoccupied space, but a real problem in a house. The inventor of the nozzle was shocked to find out several years later that firefighters were using his invention to fight fires in occupied spaces. |