[ARCHIVED THREAD] - misogyny overload (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/11/2007 3:52:59 PM EDT
Is it just me, or has the level of anti-female sentement reached an all time high over the last few days? Must be the heat. 
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None...that's the problem...they're in pain from either testosterone overload or tennis elbow. I pity them.  |
Really? I mean, there's allways been chick bashing, but at least before it was mostly tounge-in-cheek (or, at least, an attempt was made to make it look that way). Lately, though, there seems to be a real mean spirited, sourpuss attitude that I would find more appropriate comming from a bunch of transexual fudgepackers than red blooded hetro guys.  ETA: I mean, seriously, how can you be straight and hate women? 
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You can't. I haven't honestly been paying that close of attention but when I look around at the state of women these days I see there are very few ladies. Our values as a society [and women are not fully to blame] have switched so dramatically that its a ME NOW who really gives a flying rats ass what the consequences are. With this in consideration I can understand how men can learn to talk down to women. They've seen it by example at home. I have seen so little example of men actually adoring their wives. Modeling what a precious gift a wife is. Yet on the other hand as the old saying goes when one points a finger, 3 more point back at one. I don't know the answers but I think the key to ARFCOM is let it roll off your back. Take the arm chair/basement dwellers for what they're worth and keep on truckin. I firmly know the majority of the men here are awesome wonderful men and I enjoy your company very much. Its worth seeing an occasional nasty remark towards my gender.  Patty
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Well said, Patty, well said. I do believe that there are a lot of truly hurting men around. I think they come here to let it out because it's "safe" to vent here because it is predominantly guys here (and you can get a real good "piling on" effect in GD, too!) I love the saying about pointing a finger at people... I know that from my own experience outside of ARFCOM with a "group" (yes, group counseling, with a Christian counselor), those of us that have recently gone through a break up (yes, recently (2.5 years) divorced and dumped since then), do tend to try to throw blame everywhere except on ourselves when in reality, there is plenty of blame to go around and get some on every one involved and maybe even a few that aren't! While currently in a state of flux between raging anger and raging despair over the last situation, in my more rational moments I truly do hope that I find someone that I can adore and cherish once again. When I was married, I know that I did love and cherish her as I should, as I was taught by the example of my parents. Sad to say, I she didn't have a similar model to learn from. I try not to paint all womanhood with the same broad brush (no pun intended). In fact, it is the women of ARFCOM that tend to give me hope as I think you all have your heads on straight and your hearts in the right place. I'll step off the soapbox now. |
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Why all the brothers gotta be hatin' on the women? Seriously what is the point of woman bashing, especially if it is any one of the fine women here who are into guns. If the ladies take the time to post in this forum, which is mostly guys, then that is great. There are many alternatives, but you just can't escape the dreaded BRD. |
Perhaps those two conditions are related.... 
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Honestly, I think it's just a phase. Probably due to the last couple/few new gals who registered, who don't shoot, and are just posting in GD some big leg humping threads for attention. The ladies I've "met" here, who have been on this board for awhile, are seriously cool chicks. I can not only learn alot from them gun-wise, but talk the 'girl talk' too. It is really nice to chat with other women who like to shoot, and are/were kind of in the same position as I am now learning about all of this. |
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Is the female bashing really that bad right now? I noticed that it was pretty bad a month or two ago, but I hadn't noticed it as much lately. Then again, perhaps I'm A. desensitised B. ignoring the threads that bash women C. One of the woman-bashers myself, and I just haven't recognized it yet!  There does seem to be a bunch of break-ups lately. Maybe that's a contributing factor. |
I'm glad SOMEBODY followed my carefully laid breadcrumbs RIGHT into the gutter! I was getting lonely down here! 
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It seems to be pretty much SOP around here anymore, and NO, you certainly aren't one of the guilty ones.
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When I saw PM's earlier post I wondered what on earth she was talking about. Figured the tennis elbow thing was a reference to metrosexuals. Then I saw GarandM1's post. I was like ... ... darn I'm naive. 
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Or lacking an overload of testosterone. (I'm kidding. You seem like a decent guy). |
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I get bashed pretty easily but then I can be moving target too. I go where other angels don't trod. I can be crass too so I deserve some of what I get. I have to agree the males seem more restless than usual the last two months. Just angry in general over all. Everyone is having problems. Rodent getting married may have thrown all the planets out of alignment.  I am sure that is what is causing the draught here too. Actually I have to agree with several other posts. I think women in general have become more shallow and less lady like. The girls here are the exception not the rule. Funny! Smart! Not the case in other places. I also think guys get a raw deal in general any more. GD has been very interesting lately and the likes of Striker TheDoctor308 and Shane333 are becoming more rare. I have seen an upturn in disconcerting threads over all as well. People who are faced with challenges all around. Sick spouses and kids.... break ups... tough decisions and other trials. It seems like people are just less patient and tolerant whith each other. Some threads are down right scary. |
Some would think thats a good thing!  Don't let the SOBs grind ya down. ARFcom goes in bash-waves. Keep on keeping-on. Got your IM about the kids-to-church thread. I like to think I bring a little bit of sanity to the boards.
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too late sad and tears
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Aww, now you're gonna make me blush .
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Don't feel too bad Shane. Yes, I'm a returned missionary and active LDS, but I also was in the Marines and was inactive for several years. So I tend to automatically pick up on stuff like that, despite my background. Or rather, because of my background. The problem for me is I'll be listening to a talk in Church and hear what would be a double-entendre here on ARFCOM and I'll have to stifle a laugh or keep from smiling. Context is everything, as they say.
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 "carefully laid breadcrumbs"? To me, it was a screaming neon sign! I actually was surprised no one else noticed.... ETA: Page 2, and all that. And now that we're here in the gutter, did you bring any ammo? We might as well go shooting while we wait for everyone else. |
Understood. Thanks to Arfcom, there have been several instances when I've blurted out, "I like pie," whenever anybody announced that there was pie after dinner...and of course I have a big ol' grin on my face when I say it.
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I umm got the reference to personal Duh... then I figure it out. |
I am so NOT feelin the love on ARFcom today... Sometimes I plant one of those entendres TOO coyly and NOBODY comments. Makes me wonder, "did they get it?" or WORSE, "Was it just not funny???" When that happens, I choose to believe folks didn't get it. 
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I hear ya doc - you'd think there would be more of the ladies looking for the good guys like us (oh, sure, I piss and moan sometimes, but I'm really a teddy bear at heart ). But I think the reason is that there are indeed fewer real ladies as angelfire said.Ah well, it will all work itself out in the end (I hope) |
Get what? what did I miss? And BTW ... There's some of that good ol' ARFCOM luvin'
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I really don't think there's a shortage of good women out there. I just think men either aren't looking at all (it's very rare that love or money fall out of the sky in your lap), or are looking in the wrong places. Just like they say that women keep falling for the wrong type, I think men do the same thing. And if you're constantly looking at the outside attributes instead of getting to know someone on the inside...well, that could be your problem. Sometimes the prettiest packages have the nastiest thorns. Then there's the women of arf. Who are all roses without thorns.
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I understood from the start. My mind's only home is the gutter. I need GPS to get out, and when I do venture out my palms sweat and I suffer from panic attacks.
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| I don't want to hate women, I really don't. But when your ex gf breaks up with you, then asks to get back together 2 months later just to cheat on you. That tends to sour my disposition towards women. Then when I finally pull myself together enough to start asking girls out again, have them say they'll go to dinner with you and then just stand me up, or call an hour before hand suddenly discovering they have some other pressing matter that they must attend to, it doesn't help. I've asked no less than 8 women to go to dinner with me in the last 3 months. 3 of them said yes, and just straight up blew me off. 5 others would cancel on me at the last minute. |
First off, I'm not going to bore you with my experience with men. But some advice: it takes a lot of energy to hate a person. Why waste all that energy? Then to hate an entire gender because of the actions of a handfull of representatives? Now that's just silly. How's about taking a bit of ownership for this whole mess? I figure, at some point I chose to associate with the few bad apples I've come across, so some of the blame is mine. I also take the credit for choosing not to associate with them any more, pocket a little experience on what to avoid in the future, and wow, I'm out ahead. That's pretty easy, no? Besides, I can't hate men. Men are great. There's an occasional man that I pray rots in the hottest corner of hell, but men... naaaa. They're the best!
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I wish my exGF would have taken that point of view. And I probably shouldn't say it here, but oh well. I managed to get lumped into that catagory for one reason or another and wish I hadn't. Hate women? nah, they're way to soft to hate for one thing ;) I just wish I could find one that wasn't so severely broken that she knew how to put herself back together, because I certainly don't know how to. Ah, maybe soon, maybe soon - I'm still out there, trying, altho, the spring of hope is beginning to run dry. |
Ok I can not tell a lie... I have thorns. I did bask in the thought for a few minutes though and got a nice glow from it! What a nice thought. |
No doubt sister! I've realized you invest what you expect back. So if I meet a girl in a dive bar, I'm not expecting too much, so I don't get hurt if things go sour. If I happen to meet a girl randomly in the hallway of her dorm, start talking, become friends, then date for almost three years...well when that goes down the tubes...  sigh. *goes off to sit in his chair, smoke a cigar, drink a gin and tonic, and listen to some classical music* Gorecki's Symphony No. 3 should do nicely. |
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Pathetique by Beethoven is a piece I find to be very relaxing. I am listening to the piece you posted and it is to my liking. As far as the original purpose of the thread, I hadn't noticed anything beyond the norm, but I may not be looking in the right places. However, I do wonder, and I say this meaning no disdain, but I wonder if the reverse is true on female dominated boards? Are men bashed (deservedly so at times) on primarily femaled populated boards similar to this male-dominated board for females? Again, I mean no disrespect and do not intend to hijack the thread. After all, i luv teh wimminz 
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The only female-dominated board I visit is babycenter.com, and no, men are not bashed there. But the whole mindset of the board is pretty liberal, so I don't visit there as often as I used to (and it's geared towards pregnant women, and I'm not pregnant anymore). There have been the occasional "my husband is cheating on me" type threads, and women are often told "don't leave him, don't blow it out of proportion" type stuff (not that I necessarily agree with those replies). Not "throw all his crap out on the lawn", "post naked pics of him", or "PIIHisPAPP then kick him to the curb". |
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That's cause I don't post there. Whether or not women bash men on other boards isn't really relevent. (Some) men on this one act like assholes and I'm pretty sure it makes other women not want to hang out here. I'm pretty thick skinned but I can see where a lot of people aren't. My other pet peeve really is women who post here and on other boards all flirty and batting their eyelashes. Ends up making all of us suspect. especially new people. I guess on the other hand, you hunt ducks near water. |
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Thank you for your input. I don't doubt that male boards are more vulger. We are guys, after all. I would actually be scared of a female board that commonly used the term PIIHAAPP. I was merely curious if the reverse was true as some women like to complain about men. And back to the regularly scheduled thread... |
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It comes and goes. Happens every couple months or so. They never learn. I have no f***ing sympathy for men who set their own traps. None whatsoever. For God's sake, READ all the divorce threads on this board and learn something. It's pretty easy to avoid. If a bitch is sending up all kinds of red flags, get over how great the sex is, cling to your wallet, and GTFO. Yet somehow, it's an gender's fault. We women all plot together. It's the shit that we live for, right? Just because some crazy ho who was missing a gag reflex went psycho on you and screwed you over doesn't mean the rest of us are programmed that way. Generalizations are the part that annoy me. I've lost count of the amount of threads I've seen titled "women are crazy", "why do women act like this?", etc. Note the pattern, pally. Take some notes, and move on. I do think it's funny that in the years I've been here, I've never once seen a "Why do men suck so much?"-type thread. Not once. |