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3/18/2008 11:18:06 PM EDT
So about two months ago I was on a road-trip and hit a speed trap at a small town in Texas... Minor speeding ticket, requested differed dispotition and was granted it.

A few days ago in my hometown I got a traffic ticket for making a right on red.

Can someone clairify for me how the latter effects the former?
3/19/2008 7:28:01 AM EDT
[#1]
follow the traffic laws and not get pulled over as much? When you do get pulled over, slow movements, turn the vehicle off keys on dash board, keep both hands on wheel, yes sir/no sir. A cop that does not feel threatned tends to not write you a ticket! Almost always works.
3/19/2008 7:34:19 AM EDT
[#2]
IIRC, the deferred disposition is where ya pay a little more cost in fine and "IF" you get no other ticket/s in the next 3 months the "speeding" ticket does NOT get recorded on your Texas Driving Record (which with the current "points" system can cost ya plenty if ya get too many tickets, a DWI or other moving violations).....

I'd say you have blown that chance (if indeed I guessed right here w/ what you are asking about).

mike
3/19/2008 12:53:17 PM EDT
[#3]

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follow the traffic laws and not get pulled over as much?


Do you have anything to add to this topic that actually has to do with my question?


I try my best to follow the traffic laws, and if you drove in Texas you'd know it's a practically impossible task.

Small towns, like the first one that got me, love to place significant speed limit drops just over a hill on the way into town, with no prior warning signs... Great for town revenue, as it gives the drivers two seconds of warning or less.

The right on red I'll grant was completely my fault, I missed the sign. But if you think I must be driving with disregard for the traffic laws in order to get a ticket, you don't live in the same world I do.


When you do get pulled over, slow movements,


Did so.


turn the vehicle off keys on dash board,


Did so.


keep both hands on wheel,


Did so.


yes sir/no sir.


Did so.


A cop that does not feel threatned tends to not write you a ticket!


A cop manning a speed trap is going to write a ticket, almost always. That's why the city set up the speed-trap in the first place, for ticket revenue. I have in my life not known a single male to ever get a warning of any kind, including a seventy year old military vet who is the most polite man I've ever known and got a ticket for 58 in a 55 zone (speedtrap, drop from 65 to 55). The only persons I have ever known to get warnings have been females, and even then only a handful, and never in a speedtrap.

Believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny too while you're at it... Or maybe New York is different from central Texas, but here, you don't get a warning in speed traps, ever.


Almost always works.


Never works in speedtraps. They wouldn't be there if they were just going to hand out warnings.

I have nothing against the officers for doing their jobs... Although I might have a few choice words for the city officials who design offenses to boost their budget. What I do have a problem with are persons who live in denial of that simple fact.
3/19/2008 12:56:53 PM EDT
[#4]

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IIRC, the deferred disposition is where ya pay a little more cost in fine and "IF" you get no other ticket/s in the next 3 months the "speeding" ticket does NOT get recorded on your Texas Driving Record (which with the current "points" system can cost ya plenty if ya get too many tickets, a DWI or other moving violations).....

I'd say you have blown that chance (if indeed I guessed right here w/ what you are asking about).

mike


I'm trying to figure out how exactly it works.

Do they just modify the case and add the offence to my driving record?

Do they do so when the ticket is issued or on conviction?

Does it have to be the same offence (speeding only), or does any moving violation count (right on red)?

Am I required to notify them, or does this all happen on its own?

etc.
3/19/2008 3:41:46 PM EDT
[#5]
That "yes sir/no sir" stuff doesn't work. You have to be genuinely happy to see the police officer when he approaches the car. I don't mean pretend to be happy, I mean all-out denial. I don't get pulled over that often, maybe once a year. Last four were warnings... and I'm no chick.
3/19/2008 3:55:15 PM EDT
[#6]
Read the form you have to send in at the end of your deferred period. I've found many say I was not convicted of an offense during the period. Just don't pay your new ticket till the deferral period is over and you're fine. If you need to stall for time ask for a court date, you can easily get 1-2 months out of it.
3/19/2008 3:58:39 PM EDT
[#7]
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IIRC, the deferred disposition is where ya pay a little more cost in fine and "IF" you get no other ticket/s in the next 3 months the "speeding" ticket does NOT get recorded on your Texas Driving Record (which with the current "points" system can cost ya plenty if ya get too many tickets, a DWI or other moving violations).....

I'd say you have blown that chance (if indeed I guessed right here w/ what you are asking about).

mike


I'm trying to figure out how exactly it works.

Do they just modify the case and add the offence to my driving record?

Do they do so when the ticket is issued or on conviction?

Does it have to be the same offence (speeding only), or does any moving violation count (right on red)?

Am I required to notify them, or does this all happen on its own?

etc.

The case is not reported till the end of the deferral period, and only if you do not satisfactorily complete the terms of it.

It can be any offense.

You should have a form that you have to sign and mail back at the end of the deferral period. If it says I have not received another citation, then it'd probably going on your license. Like I said before though if it says convicted, just stall and don't be convicted or plead no contest/guilty until the period is over.
3/19/2008 10:11:35 PM EDT
[#8]

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That "yes sir/no sir" stuff doesn't work. You have to be genuinely happy to see the police officer when he approaches the car. I don't mean pretend to be happy, I mean all-out denial. I don't get pulled over that often, maybe once a year. Last four were warnings... and I'm no chick.


I think it's a regional issue... I know a lot of cops here and the general thing they tell me is if you get pulled over in an obvious seed trap (cruiser waiting two feet past a speed limit change sign... Or any cop on a motorcycle, for all practical purposes), you're going to get a ticket, just get over it.

Our cities are very cash-strapped here. Speed traps exist to plug budget shortfalls. If they catch you, you're getting the ticket, that's why the officer is there.


If you're just driving along and somehow catch the attention of a non-speed trap cruiser, you might have a chance... It isn't his job to bring the city money that day. But generally, to catch their attention when they're just cruising from one place to another, you'd have to be breaking the sound barrier, from what I've seen when rednecks pass them doing 90.
3/19/2008 10:13:53 PM EDT
[#9]

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IIRC, the deferred disposition is where ya pay a little more cost in fine and "IF" you get no other ticket/s in the next 3 months the "speeding" ticket does NOT get recorded on your Texas Driving Record (which with the current "points" system can cost ya plenty if ya get too many tickets, a DWI or other moving violations).....

I'd say you have blown that chance (if indeed I guessed right here w/ what you are asking about).

mike


I'm trying to figure out how exactly it works.

Do they just modify the case and add the offence to my driving record?

Do they do so when the ticket is issued or on conviction?

Does it have to be the same offence (speeding only), or does any moving violation count (right on red)?

Am I required to notify them, or does this all happen on its own?

etc.

The case is not reported till the end of the deferral period, and only if you do not satisfactorily complete the terms of it.

It can be any offense.

You should have a form that you have to sign and mail back at the end of the deferral period. If it says I have not received another citation, then it'd probably going on your license. Like I said before though if it says convicted, just stall and don't be convicted or plead no contest/guilty until the period is over.


Thanks, you've cleared it up a bit.

Think if I do the defensive driving thing, it'll work for me? Gives me several months to work on it, getting past the first tickets differeal period... Then again I'm not sure exactly how that works either.
3/21/2008 12:08:42 PM EDT
[#10]
maybe up hear with all the gun hating liberals the cops are a lil more floppy wrist as well...(no offence to any LEO here on the board )

I went on a streetbike down in texas a couple years ago with a buddy that lives in texas. I think he mentioned that stuff has changed down there and you guys have a point system for driver lic. now? A couple years ago i knwo texas did not have a points system and my buddy had somthign insane like 100 moving violations that he had to pay (all streetbike, wheelie, speeding w/e) he just had to pay out the hole for all of them .

Im not sure how it works in texas, but here, you always plead not guilty with a supporting deposition, and they will set your court date back, and then after that you can call and ask for a later court date for some b/s reason. by that time you can usually buy yourself a long time before your court date. Most of the time the officer does not show up for your court date and hopefully does not remember you offhand and you get your ticket thrown out :)
3/21/2008 3:48:47 PM EDT
[#11]

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That "yes sir/no sir" stuff doesn't work. You have to be genuinely happy to see the police officer when he approaches the car. I don't mean pretend to be happy, I mean all-out denial. I don't get pulled over that often, maybe once a year. Last four were warnings... and I'm no chick.


I think it's a regional issue... I know a lot of cops here and the general thing they tell me is if you get pulled over in an obvious seed trap (cruiser waiting two feet past a speed limit change sign... Or any cop on a motorcycle, for all practical purposes), you're going to get a ticket, just get over it.

Our cities are very cash-strapped here. Speed traps exist to plug budget shortfalls. If they catch you, you're getting the ticket, that's why the officer is there.


If you're just driving along and somehow catch the attention of a non-speed trap cruiser, you might have a chance... It isn't his job to bring the city money that day. But generally, to catch their attention when they're just cruising from one place to another, you'd have to be breaking the sound barrier, from what I've seen when rednecks pass them doing 90.


I am gonna just go ahead and call bullshit.  Name the city you received the ticket in, and the roadway and direction of travel.  
3/23/2008 4:27:11 AM EDT
[#12]
http://www.trapster.com/