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4/30/2001 4:29:48 AM EDT
I am really getting into old bolt rifles.
How hard is it to get a Curio FFL, or does anyone know where I would apply?
4/30/2001 7:20:30 AM EDT
[#1]
It's pretty easy. I went to www.cruffler.com and followed the how to become a "cruffler" link. The toughest part was finding a sheet of legal sized paper to print out the application. $30 for three years - I've made serveral times that back in FFL discounts through Brownells and others.
4/30/2001 7:00:44 PM EDT
[#2]
Thanks Paul!
One day those historic bolts are going to dry up and I would love to get my hands on some of them.
I could be the Steyr Aug of WWI!
4/30/2001 8:03:14 PM EDT
[#3]
I forgot that I had a page on my web site concerning the CMP (see below).

I just tonight bought an M-14 trigger assembly complete for my M1A for $40 something delivered Fed-Ex from the CMP. I only wish that they had M1 Carbines or Springfield '03's but once you have the C&R most of the fun (other than shooting) is searching the dozen or so companies that sell C&R firearms. I've seen some nice M1 Carbines for $600 to $750 that I've been very tempted on.

You're not just limited to bolt guns - heck even some Thompson M1 carbines (tommyguns) are on the list.

"The CMP application was pretty simple requiring only some basic information. I was only required to join the California Pistol and Rifle Club ($18 annually) to meet the requirements as I am active duty military. The basic requirements to purchase a CMP rifle are:

You must be a current member of a CMP-affiliated gun club or state association

A U.S. citizen aged 18 or older

Satisfy CMP criteria for marksmanship participation within the past five years (this requirement is waived for law-enforcement officers, military personnel, veterans and certain others)

Not prohibited by federal, state, or local law from purchasing or possessing a rifle. A criminal record background check by CMP is required unless you provide satisfactory proof that such a check has already been conducted.

For detailed information on purchase requirements please obtain an M1 Garand application by downloading from the CMP Web Site, or by writing or calling:

Civilian Marksmanship Program
ATTN: M1 Sales
P.O. Box 576
Port Clinton, Ohio 43452
Telephone (888) 267-0796"

5/1/2001 7:41:05 PM EDT
[#4]
With the CMP, I am getting two birds with one stone. The Colorado State Shooting Associaton is affiliated with the NRA, so by joining the CSSA, I become a CMP and NRA person. Some of those CMP deals are awesome. I am going to get some spare parts for my M1A's and a couple other things.
5/2/2001 11:13:50 PM EDT
[#5]
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It's pretty easy. I went to www.cruffler.com and followed the how to become a "cruffler" link. The toughest part was finding a sheet of legal sized paper to print out the application. $30 for three years - I've made serveral times that back in FFL discounts through Brownells and others.
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Paul,

When you get here to the PRK, remember that there are additional requirements to maintain your 07 FFL.  PRK laws are bad enough; I wouldn't want a fellow member to run afoul of them unknowingly...

-Troy
5/3/2001 9:16:11 AM EDT
[#6]
Troy, C&R is a type 03 FFL.  07 is a manufacturer.
5/5/2001 5:41:25 PM EDT
[#7]
It looks like it is taking an average of 45 days to get your curio FFL.
It wouldn't surprise me to see California try to clamp down on the Curio FFL, so don't let their politicians find out.
If they knew ordinary citizens were getting the rifles that killed Kennedy delivered to thier door. It would be 1968 all over again.
5/6/2001 11:58:34 AM EDT
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Troy, C&R is a type 03 FFL.  07 is a manufacturer.
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DOH!  I know that, but the typing fingers were thinking about manufacturing...  :)

-Troy
5/6/2001 9:18:17 PM EDT
[#9]
Unlike the CMP requirement, there is no "US citizen" requirement to have a C&R FFL (or any other FFL for that matter).

I only know that because I'm not a citizen, but I have an FFL.  I got it specifically for the purpose of circumventing a local gun law.  I was buying a Walther P-38 handgun from a local gunstore in Missouri, and then discovered that to buy a handgun in Missouri, you have to be a US citizen - a very odd law considering that it was okay for me to own my Colt 1991A1 that I bought before moving to Missouri.  Strange people in Missouri.

Anyway, I went ahead and got my C&R FFL so that I could buy the P-38 anyway.  By now the FFL has paid for itself several times by the savings in transfer fees on other fun stuff like my Garand and Mausers.