Posted: 1/28/2013 12:19:35 PM EDT
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Steps????
First step, buy a stripped lower. Next step, build that lower into a rifle with all the goodies. Next step, take lots of photographs of rifle??? Next Step, ??? What are the standard ways people go about firearm provenance? I see lots of stuff on the problems of provenance, but not a lot on the right steps to build your own rock solid provenance of a particular rifle. Solid enough to hopefully be handed down for generations. My thoughts are to have pictures developed and dated by a notary, but pictures don't last forever. Paper Documents usually last much longer, so I'd like to know if there is a way to paper document a rifle and the parts on that rifle. Maybe a form people are already using that I can have notarized by a gun smith or other qualified person. I cant exactly take my rifle down to the 70 year old lady notary and say "see my rifle has a pistol grip, collapsible stock and flash hider. Sign this document that you agree." I've seen the term "Notarized Statement." I wonder if a notarized statement including a list of all parts on the gun, signed by me and dated by the notary would be sufficient? |
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I don't know if there is a perfect way but if I was woried about this I would take a photo of the gun, a second with a closeup showing the serial number, and then combine the two photos on a piece of paper (MS Word) and type out a description of the gun. Print the document on good paper and take it to a notery and sign and date it in their presence. When they noterize it, you have a record of the gun and features on that date.
Obviously you would need to do so before a ban was put in effect. It might be a bit expensive too so not sure I would do it for boating trip guns 
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I think your on the right track here. Its starting to come together in my mind how to do it. I was thinking there should be a third party who verifies the information, but by simple signing and having the info notarized is a legal binding statement that should be sufficient. Anyone disagree with that?
http://www.ar15.com/content/legal/preORpost.html The subject was important enough for arfcom to have a write up on the subject in their legal section and the problems associated regarding the '94-'04 ban. So information on how to establish provenance for the future is also important imho. Establishing the history of a rifle that was originally retailed as a stripped receiver should be done before a ban as it would be difficult to do it post ban, and I hope to show others who have interest in doing so, the proper steps. Notary is cheap. Depending on the state they are anywhere from $2 to $10 maximum fee allowed by law. In many places like your banking institution, the service is free. |
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My bank charges about $12 for a notary stamp (not a good idea to take a gun in there anyway!) But our church notaries things for free. Many realtors and some businesses are also notaries and some will also notarize documents for free. You don't need a gun to be there. All the notary is signing and dating that you sighed the document in their presence. You get the photos with description on the piece of paper with the date and then take it to the notary and sign and date it there. Then they stamp and countersign. |
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If I notarized your signature, all I'm doing is verifying that you provided identification, and signed document(s) in my presence, at a certain location, on a certain date. A notary does NOT verify the accuracy or truthfulness of information in documents. True, but if you have a description with photos on a piece of paper and it is noterized you have about as strong of proof I think you can get. The only thing better would be a letter from the manufacturer... |