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1/3/2010 2:02:14 PM EDT
Figured I have enough experience with this method that I should share it.  I got a SmartCarry a couple of years ago.  It works well (completely disappears) when wearing shorts, loose khakis, or baggy jeans (which I never wear), but not so much when wearing jeans.  So I improvised when the first winter came on.  I've been wearing it like this since then.  Works extremely well in button up shirts, golf pullovers, hoodies, and even loose t-shirts.  It doesn't print at all.  I can also run and jump and bend over without any worries.  And if I'm ever worried about it moving, I just nonchalantly press my arm up against it.
Easy access sitting down, standing up, and even in the car.  To get to it fast, my trick is to just grab my shirt out and up with my left hand, while grabbing the gun with the right.  I could pull it out very fluidly and fast after a little bit of practice.  There's also a pocket next to the slide for a spare mag or flash light.  





The trick is to not fasten it too tight.  It can be a little uncomfortable if you do.  You really don't need it very tight, it won't slip down or move as long as you have a t-shirt on underneath.  Sticks like velcro.   I like it a lot better than IWB, but it does limit you on what shirts you can wear.  And just be careful hugging little ol' ladies or other family that are scared of guns.









Edited for clarity





 
1/3/2010 2:04:16 PM EDT
[#1]
I'm always looking for new ideas on holster carry...thanks for sharing

How does if feel when running or moving abruptly?
1/3/2010 2:06:25 PM EDT
[#2]







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I'm always looking for new ideas on holster carry...thanks for sharing



How does if feel when running or moving abruptly?




You should try it out and model it for us


 I'm not as pretty to look at





ETA:  It's very secure while running, jumping, laying down, etc.  Doesn't move at all.  And even if it did get loose, it's easy to press your right arm up against it.  Probably wouldn't be good for hanging upside down though.
 
1/3/2010 2:07:48 PM EDT
[#3]
I like my Crossbreed Super Tuck for my XD .45 Service Model.  I've tried many different holster to find one that is really comfortable.
1/3/2010 2:09:47 PM EDT
[#4]
Bruce Nelson Summer Special   RIP

Milt Sparks copy
1/3/2010 2:10:51 PM EDT
[#5]
Milt Sparks Versa Max II

/ of thread.

-Fidel
1/3/2010 2:15:56 PM EDT
[#6]
Your gun will fall out very easily. A good carry holster will retain the gun when it is not being worn. I have crashed my cycle(dual sport) several times and the gun stays in place, yours will not in a similar situation. Any decent change in direction and the gun will be on its' own. A smart carry needs the help of being IWB to secure the gun.
1/3/2010 2:18:35 PM EDT
[#7]
Here's a better picture.





 
1/3/2010 2:19:15 PM EDT
[#8]
Crossbreed super tuck work great for me. I carry a para ordnances p 14 45.. I bought the horsehide they say it works bettrer in heat and humidity.
1/3/2010 2:19:43 PM EDT
[#9]





that belt is under a lot of pressure, you are the male version of the muffin top




 
1/3/2010 2:22:48 PM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:


Your gun will fall out very easily. A good carry holster will retain the gun when it is not being worn. I have crashed my cycle(dual sport) several times and the gun stays in place, yours will not in a similar situation. Any decent change in direction and the gun will be on its' own. A smart carry needs the help of being IWB to secure the gun.


I didn't recommend it for riding a bicycle or motorcycle, so yes, I doubt it would stay put during a big crash.  





As for the rest of your post, I'll just let everyone judge for themselves.  Take your word even though you've never even tried it.  Or take my word, which is based on 2 years of experience using it almost daily.



 
1/3/2010 2:22:49 PM EDT
[#11]
Note to self "Never post pics of myself on line".
1/3/2010 2:23:58 PM EDT
[#12]
I have an Alessi for my P7 which used to cut the hell out of me, I taped over some areas with cleanroom  tape and it has stopped the problem
1/3/2010 2:27:31 PM EDT
[#13]
I used a Smart Carry for a while too. They work pretty well.  I needed to carry more junk and went to a Truss setup.



http://www.specgear.com/Truss.html
1/3/2010 2:28:07 PM EDT
[#14]
not a bad idea
1/3/2010 2:30:50 PM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:


I used a Smart Carry for a while too. They work pretty well.  I needed to carry more junk and went to a Truss setup.



http://www.specgear.com/Truss.html


That Truss setup looks pretty good, but I don't like where they place the gun at.  It doesn't look very accessible.  



 
1/3/2010 2:31:19 PM EDT
[#16]
My Raven Phantom is extremely comfortable with my G19 and doesn't print with a loose teeshirt.

HH
1/3/2010 2:41:12 PM EDT
[#17]



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I used a Smart Carry for a while too. They work pretty well.  I needed to carry more junk and went to a Truss setup.



http://www.specgear.com/Truss.html


That Truss setup looks pretty good, but I don't like where they place the gun at.  It doesn't look very accessible.  

 


I wear mine just above the belt and it works pretty good.  You can also twist it a bit with the straps in place or remove the straps if you prefer.  I just like that there are enough pockets to hold 2 mags, my knife, baton and cuffs.  I used to put a handkerchief in the bottom of the SmartCarry to lift the weapon out a bit more.  It worked better in jeans when carrying in the front.  I used a Survival Sheath chest holster for a while too.  It would be great on a motorcycle, but not so good for general concealment.



 
1/3/2010 2:43:27 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Your gun will fall out very easily. A good carry holster will retain the gun when it is not being worn. I have crashed my cycle(dual sport) several times and the gun stays in place, yours will not in a similar situation. Any decent change in direction and the gun will be on its' own. A smart carry needs the help of being IWB to secure the gun.

I didn't recommend it for riding a bicycle or motorcycle, so yes, I doubt it would stay put during a big crash.  


As for the rest of your post, I'll just let everyone judge for themselves.  Take your word even though you've never even tried it.  Or take my word, which is based on 2 years of experience using it almost daily.
 




I don't need actual experience because I know how that type of holster works, it relies on the pressure placed upon it from both sides by being inside your pants. If you were to trip and fall the release of tension and forward momentum will send the gun out of the holster.  I suppose as long as your carrying a gun with a  manual safety it doesn't matter if the gun pops out.
I just don't want to read about you or someone else getting shot because you weren't wearing you holster properly and the gun fell out.

I know GD is all about attacking  anything anyone else does, but I am not trying to do that. Maybe sew in a retention strap with a snap  that goes around the back of the grip to hold it in place in case you get upside down for some reason.
1/3/2010 2:44:30 PM EDT
[#19]



Quoted:



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Your gun will fall out very easily. A good carry holster will retain the gun when it is not being worn. I have crashed my cycle(dual sport) several times and the gun stays in place, yours will not in a similar situation. Any decent change in direction and the gun will be on its' own. A smart carry needs the help of being IWB to secure the gun.


I didn't recommend it for riding a bicycle or motorcycle, so yes, I doubt it would stay put during a big crash.  





As for the rest of your post, I'll just let everyone judge for themselves.  Take your word even though you've never even tried it.  Or take my word, which is based on 2 years of experience using it almost daily.

 

I don't need actual experience because I know how that type of holster works, it relies on the pressure placed upon it from both sides by being inside your pants. If you were to trip and fall the release of tension and forward momentum will send the gun out of the holster.  I suppose as long as your carrying a gun with a  manual safety it doesn't matter if the gun pops out.

I just don't want to read about you or someone else getting shot because you weren't wearing you holster properly and the gun fell out.



I know GD is all about attacking  anything anyone else does, but I am not trying to do that. Maybe sew in a retention strap with a snap  that goes around the back of the grip to hold it in place in case you get upside down for some reason.




Yes Daddy