[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Any Security Officers here? (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 1/2/2010 10:31:05 AM EDT
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What do you think about uniforms that mimic police uniforms? Before I go any further, LE does not like or appreciate it one bit when guard companies choose uniforms that look near to or identical to local LEA's.
Check out this example from a CA guard company, who do they look like?: http://www.capublicsafety.org/images/dscf0265_j0qt.jpg <––- main pic in question youtube link homepage |
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The "Motor Officer" reminds me of the Rent-a-Cop from Grosse Pointe Blank. I'd also like to say to each of these guys,"Nice pants. Do they come in your size?" I agree, but in reality, there are some very unprofessional looking guard companies out there, these guys would not fall into that category. 
Can anyone think of which CA dept they look like? Or how many depts? |
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As long as they don't do something that only a cop could legally do, what exactly is the problem? Seems to me like you would have more people obeying the speed limit with those guys putting around on motorcycles.
Or is this just something like when women get pissed because somebody else showed up wearing the same dress? What would really be interesting is if some gang adopted those colors. |
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What should they look like? Yeah. Should they wear sweatsuits? Police Depts have a wide variety of uniform styles and colors. When selecting professional dress to wear a company would be hard pressed not to imitate them. If I had a company however the uniform would be a low key embroidered polo with cargo pants or slacks with a button up shirt if the setting was more formal. |
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As long as they don't do something that only a cop could legally do, what exactly is the problem? Seems to me like you would have more people obeying the speed limit with those guys putting around on motorcycles. One problem is, security pays on average about $10 an hour, the old saying "you get what you pay for.." really comes into play with low wages. What becomes a problem is the ones who become SO's because they want to play "cop", with a uniform like this and the quality you get in attracting applicants at that pay range, no doubt, there always is the "wannabe" who begins to actually "play cop". We have a local outfit like that here where I live in SD, full of drama, and the highway patrol and SDPD have had issues with these guys, from speeding like cops on the freeway because their patrol car looks like a real cop car, to outright misrepresenting themselves and breaking the law. |
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What do you think about uniforms that mimic police uniforms? Before I go any further, LE does not like or appreciate it one bit when guard companies choose uniforms that look near to or identical to local LEA's. Check out this example from a CA guard company, who do they look like?: http://www.capublicsafety.org/images/dscf0265_j0qt.jpg youtube link homepage Wtf do they guard ? |
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As long as they don't do anything that is outside of the bounds of a security company, I'm not really seeing the problem. I'm actually surprised they come across as somewhat professional. I'm also curious as to see types of uniforms are available that wouldn't mimic police uniform. Every security guard uniform I've seen closely resembles the police uniform. |
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What should they look like? They should not cause the public to confuse them as LEO's, for starters. So they are not supposed to look like any LEO, or just the ones in their area? What should a national firm do? And who should make the determination that they now look "too much" like a cop? What difference does it make what they look like as long as they don't do anything a cop can't legally do? The only major effect I can think of is that a lot of people would be obeying the laws more carefully because they saw someone they thought was a cop. You know, like reduced speeding. |
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What do you think about uniforms that mimic police uniforms? Before I go any further, LE does not like or appreciate it one bit when guard companies choose uniforms that look near to or identical to local LEA's. Check out this example from a CA guard company, who do they look like?: http://www.capublicsafety.org/images/dscf0265_j0qt.jpg youtube link homepage Wtf do they guard ? Good question, but I'm curious as to why the question, I think I have that answer already.. |
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What do you think about uniforms that mimic police uniforms? Before I go any further, LE does not like or appreciate it one bit when guard companies choose uniforms that look near to or identical to local LEA's. Check out this example from a CA guard company, who do they look like?: http://www.capublicsafety.org/images/dscf0265_j0qt.jpg youtube link homepage Wtf do they guard ? Good question, but I'm curious as to why the question, I think I have that answer already.. Why would I ask? No, I am not interested. 
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What should they look like? They should not cause the public to confuse them as LEO's, for starters. Nice dodge. Whip out the Butterick catalog and show me what you think that Security should look like. Considering that certain aspects of security is similar to what LEO's do, it only follows that they would look similar. Security might not be pulling people over, but they are patrolling and having to make their presence known and visible. Projecting an air of authority is part of "being a presence" . |
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I was a cop before, so I feel I can participate.
John T. Molloy - of Dress for Success fame - has done extensive testing of uniform colors, shapes, and design and their effect on public perception. These are scientific studies, mind you. And the studies all arrive at the same exact conclusion the Germans made back in the 1930's: there are colors of uniforms and styles that simply affect public submission better than others. Like all the black SS uniforms, or the infamous Brown Shirts. Even the British SAS has made public that their choice of entry gear has as much to do with subjective effects on their targets as it does practical utility. I mean imagine an all black-clad human whose face you cannot see coming right at you - I know I'd be scared into submission! But that would lead back to the conclusion that a security company was clever in picking uniforms that mimic local Law Enforcement agencies. One side of me thinks the police should have protected uniforms so that there is absolutely no mistaking their identity or constituted authority. But then that rests on the assumption that there is a growing lack of respect for authority [which there IS]. I mean, for me personally, I tend to accord a security guard similar respect to a police officer, as they are both authority figures. And I know many of us feel the same way. BUT there is a growing contingent who view them as "pffffttt...you can't do nothing to me, so screw you." Not a respectful American attitude, but hey, what do I know? However, it always bothered me that we are using Nazi German ideas and technology so much. [That is NOT a commentary on American police forces - it is simply a statement of FACT. For example, the PASGT Kevlar shape and design, or the aforementioned uniform shape/color vs. social response. Or picking up the V2 design. Or the Volkswagon. Or the conclusion that an intermediate caliber / assault rifle was the wave of the future, a la the Sturmgewehr.] I mean, a good design is a good design,but it still bugs ya. So I could go either way. Based on the Founding Fathers' philosophies, the most prudent conclusion would be to err on the side of opposing such an absolute delineation of State Power as to say only Police can do or wear such and such. And so in this case, why not? Just some ideas...but that sure is a muddy issue. 
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As long as they don't do something that only a cop could legally do, what exactly is the problem? Seems to me like you would have more people obeying the speed limit with those guys putting around on motorcycles. One problem is, security pays on average about $10 an hour, the old saying "you get what you pay for.." really comes into play with low wages. What becomes a problem is the ones who become SO's because they want to play "cop", with a uniform like this and the quality you get in attracting applicants at that pay range, no doubt, there always is the "wannabe" who begins to actually "play cop". We have a local outfit like that here where I live in SD, full of drama, and the highway patrol and SDPD have had issues with these guys, from speeding like cops on the freeway because their patrol car looks like a real cop car, to outright misrepresenting themselves and breaking the law. So bust them for breaking the law, like anyone else. Seems to me you have that same "wannabe" cop thing, whatever uniform you give them. Bust them enough times and they won't be able to pass the background check to get the car. Like most other things regarding idiots, this is a problem that eventually solves itself. But, assuming you are correct, what's your proposed solution? A law that says they can't look like cops? |
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I was a cop before, so I feel I can participate. John T. Molloy - of Dress for Success fame - has done extensive testing of uniform colors, shapes, and design and their effect on public perception. These are scientific studies, mind you. And the studies all arrive at the same exact conclusion the Germans made back in the 1930's: there are colors of uniforms and styles that simply affect public submission better than others. Like all the black SS uniforms, or the infamous Brown Shirts. Even the British SAS has made public that their choice of entry gear has as much to do with subjective effects on their targets as it does practical utility. I mean imagine an all black-clad human whose face you cannot see coming right at you - I know I'd be scared into submission! But that would lead back to the conclusion that a security company was clever in picking uniforms that mimic local Law Enforcement agencies. One side of me thinks the police should have protected uniforms so that there is absolutely no mistaking their identity or constituted authority. But then that rests on the assumption that there is a growing lack of respect for authority [which there IS]. I mean, for me personally, I tend to accord a security guard similar respect to a police officer, as they are both authority figures. And I know many of us feel the same way. BUT there is a growing contingent who view them as "pffffttt...you can't do nothing to me, so screw you." Not a respectful American attitude, but hey, what do I know? However, it always bothered me that we are using Nazi German ideas and technology so much. [That is NOT a commentary on American police forces - it is simply a statement of FACT. For example, the PASGT Kevlar shape and design, or the aforementioned uniform shape/color vs. social response. Or picking up the V2 design. Or the Volkswagon. Or the conclusion that an intermediate caliber / assault rifle was the wave of the future, a la the Sturmgewehr.] I mean, a good design is a good design,but it still bugs ya. So I could go either way. Based on the Founding Fathers' philosophies, the most prudent conclusion would be to err on the side of opposing such an absolute delineation of State Power as to say only Police can do or wear such and such. And so in this case, why not? Just some ideas...but that sure is a muddy issue. Assume for a moment that it is a good idea to outlaw uniforms that "look like" cop uniforms. Then try to figure out how to write a law that describes how that is determined, |
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What should they look like? They should not cause the public to confuse them as LEO's, for starters. So they are not supposed to look like any LEO, or just the ones in their area? What should a national firm do? And who should make the determination that they now look "too much" like a cop? What difference does it make what they look like as long as they don't do anything a cop can't legally do? The only major effect I can think of is that a lot of people would be obeying the laws more carefully because they saw someone they thought was a cop. You know, like reduced speeding. In CA throughout the years there has been enough issue WRT guard agencies that there happens to be a state agency dedicated to regulating these outfits: CA BSIS (Bureau of Security & Investigative Services). Badges must clearly denote that the individual is private security. Vehicles are to be clearly marked as "private security" as well. Of course, what ends up happening is these companies feel the need, or somehow believe the only way to be a professional guard agency is look and appear as LEO's. If you look carefully, you will find some characteristics on the guard vehicles that have no security purpose other than to mimic LEA vehicles. |
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What should they look like? They should not cause the public to confuse them as LEO's, for starters. So they are not supposed to look like any LEO, or just the ones in their area? What should a national firm do? And who should make the determination that they now look "too much" like a cop? What difference does it make what they look like as long as they don't do anything a cop can't legally do? The only major effect I can think of is that a lot of people would be obeying the laws more carefully because they saw someone they thought was a cop. You know, like reduced speeding. In CA throughout the years there has been enough issue WRT guard agencies that there happens to be a state agency dedicated to regulating these outfits: CA BSIS (Bureau of Security & Investigative Services). Badges must have clearly denote that the individual is private security. Vehicles are to be clearly marked as "private security" as well. Of course, what ends up happening is these companies feel the need, or somehow believe the only way to be a professional guard agency is look and appear as LEO's. If you look carefully, you will find some characteristics on the guard vehicles that have no security purpose other than to mimic LEA vehicles. So exactly what should the law say to prevent this? |
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What do you think about uniforms that mimic police uniforms? Before I go any further, LE does not like or appreciate it one bit when guard companies choose uniforms that look near to or identical to local LEA's. Check out this example from a CA guard company, who do they look like?: http://www.capublicsafety.org/images/dscf0265_j0qt.jpg youtube link homepage And we military dont appreciate it when cops dress like us.... 
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As long as they don't do something that only a cop could legally do, what exactly is the problem? Seems to me like you would have more people obeying the speed limit with those guys putting around on motorcycles. One problem is, security pays on average about $10 an hour, the old saying "you get what you pay for.." really comes into play with low wages. What becomes a problem is the ones who become SO's because they want to play "cop", with a uniform like this and the quality you get in attracting applicants at that pay range, no doubt, there always is the "wannabe" who begins to actually "play cop". We have a local outfit like that here where I live in SD, full of drama, and the highway patrol and SDPD have had issues with these guys, from speeding like cops on the freeway because their patrol car looks like a real cop car, to outright misrepresenting themselves and breaking the law. So this is an attempt at an "LEO's are superior" thread. Well I happen to be facility security and we all make a pretty decent wage here. I am not a wannabe, I just want to feed my kids, but hey, don't let that stop you from making broad generalizations about the field. Most here are former LEO and CO, and our head is a former APD police chief, but oh well, we are just wannabes. If cops were so superior, then why would companies, who already pay a good portion of LEO's salaries through taxes, have to go and pay for more security out of pocket? I mean, if you guys were doing your jobs there wouldn't be any need right? Get off your high horse. |
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My current employer makes us wear jeans and flannel shirts that have "SECURITY" emblazoned on them. They are hokey and stupid IMHO.
Other officers from my company, employed at other sites, wear more traditional "officer" type uniforms. I think a more formal uniform does help in some circumstances, but in others just makes you look like a wannabe moron. Where I work, it's a family-oriented retail store and we are, as far as THEY know, unarmed. Our other sites range from college campuses to hospitals where more of an air of authority is helpful. I know some of our contracts require armed guards with cuffs, tasers, etc., and I think a serious uniform is very appropriate. |
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As long as they don't do anything that is outside of the bounds of a security company, I'm not really seeing the problem. I'm actually surprised they come across as somewhat professional. I'm also curious as to see types of uniforms are available that wouldn't mimic police uniform. Every security guard uniform I've seen closely resembles the police uniform. I see police uniforms that look like what you'd expect a cell phone salesman or mailman to wear, so where do we draw the lines? |
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And we military dont appreciate it when cops dress like us.... Insofar as both military and LEO are sworn agents of a civil authority, what's the difference? Because the LEO isint doing the job of an infantryman. Military cannot work alongside LEOs. And when a civil rights abusing cop gets videoed on the local news beating a protester or illeagly confisacating firearms, and is wearing ACUs, it tends to cause a backlash on the military. |
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And we military dont appreciate it when cops dress like us.... Insofar as both military and LEO are sworn agents of a civil authority, what's the difference? Only one of them is an agent of civilian authority, and most can't seem to remember that. ETA: But then again, I had a US Army sergeant try to come over and strong-arm me on a surveillance a couple of years ago and I told him to get bent too. I was not on .gov property and we were not under martial law at the time so he was swinging a rubber-hammer anyway. He didn't like the fact that I was sitting in his neighborhood with one of his neighbors under surveillance and I would not tell him who I was watching. This person was NOT stereotypical of our fine men and women in the armed forces. He was just some piss-ant who happened to be in the army. |
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Quoted: Because the LEO isint doing the job of an infantryman. Military cannot work alongside LEOs. And when a civil rights abusing cop gets videoed on the local news beating a protester or illeagly confisacating firearms, and is wearing ACUs, it tends to cause a backlash on the military. Just checking.  |
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Quoted: he needs a booster seat for his bikeQuoted: The "Motor Officer" reminds me of the Rent-a-Cop from Grosse Pointe Blank. I'd also like to say to each of these guys,"Nice pants. Do they come in your size?" I agree, but in reality, there are some very unprofessional looking guard companies out there, these guys would not fall into that category. http://www.capublicsafety.org/images/cps_moter__2_.jpg Can anyone think of which CA dept they look like? Or how many depts? |
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And we military dont appreciate it when cops dress like us.... Insofar as both military and LEO are sworn agents of a civil authority, what's the difference? Oh you HAD to go and open THAT can of worms! Police and Military are completely different. They may occasionally use similar equipment and/or methods, but completely different animals with completely different missions. |
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As long as they don't do anything that is outside of the bounds of a security company, I'm not really seeing the problem. I'm actually surprised they come across as somewhat professional. I'm also curious as to see types of uniforms are available that wouldn't mimic police uniform. Every security guard uniform I've seen closely resembles the police uniform. I see police uniforms that look like what you'd expect a cell phone salesman or mailman to wear, so where do we draw the lines? Yup, I had a funny experience with one of those verizone broadband sales guys(cop uniform), in the dark....it's under what is the stupidest thing you ever said to a cop thread. I know it's probably more comfortable to wear the khakis and polo...but it does lack the look of authority. |
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Because the LEO isint doing the job of an infantryman. Military cannot work alongside LEOs. And when a civil rights abusing cop gets videoed on the local news beating a protester or illeagly confisacating firearms, and is wearing ACUs, it tends to cause a backlash on the military. Just checking.
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Uniform's depend on what the client want's, back when I was working normal security, that ranged from a "security" t-shirt and blue jean's that you never wanted to wear in public again (Blackhawk foundry, Davenport, Iowa) The normal security Uniform to Polo's.
the type of security I'm working now call's for Polo's navy/black/khaki BDU pant's and black "combat" boot's. |
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As long as they don't do something that only a cop could legally do, what exactly is the problem? Seems to me like you would have more people obeying the speed limit with those guys putting around on motorcycles. One problem is, security pays on average about $10 an hour, the old saying "you get what you pay for.." really comes into play with low wages. What becomes a problem is the ones who become SO's because they want to play "cop", with a uniform like this and the quality you get in attracting applicants at that pay range, no doubt, there always is the "wannabe" who begins to actually "play cop". We have a local outfit like that here where I live in SD, full of drama, and the highway patrol and SDPD have had issues with these guys, from speeding like cops on the freeway because their patrol car looks like a real cop car, to outright misrepresenting themselves and breaking the law. So this is an attempt at an "LEO's are superior" thread. Well I happen to be facility security and we all make a pretty decent wage here. I am not a wannabe, I just want to feed my kids, but hey, don't let that stop you from making broad generalizations about the field. Most here are former LEO and CO, and our head is a former APD police chief, but oh well, we are just wannabes. If cops were so superior, then why would companies, who already pay a good portion of LEO's salaries through taxes, have to go and pay for more security out of pocket? I mean, if you guys were doing your jobs there wouldn't be any need right? Get off your high horse. Settle down francis, No one is questioning your professionalism or that of your employer. I'm not a cop, outside of being active duty, I am in your industry as well (security & investigations). The problem I referred to was the individual who decides to become or SO to "play cop". There are many professional SO's out there, the average SO has no input on the type of uniform his employer is requiring him to wear, nor the vehicle he is to patrol in. I find it very odd that some owners of guard companies feel the need to try and mimic LE in every way possible. |
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i think you have too much time to be bitching about those uniforms. <––––––- Nuke Security Officer Did you post this in jest, or are seriously posting this reply, here, on an internet discussion board? Too much time? We are both members of an internet discussion board with thousands of posts on varying, even off the wall if I may say, subjects and we are going to go there? As Laquanda or Nakisha would say, "Bitch please.." EDITED TO ADD: To acknowledge your employment, I will have to add that for one, your area of specialty does not fall into the category of: 1)Mall security 2)Patrol of apt complexes 3)Patrol of residential neighborhoods 4) etc.. You fall into an entirely different category of security and your job is regulated by whom again? 
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As long as they don't do something that only a cop could legally do, what exactly is the problem? Seems to me like you would have more people obeying the speed limit with those guys putting around on motorcycles. One problem is, security pays on average about $10 an hour, the old saying "you get what you pay for.." really comes into play with low wages. What becomes a problem is the ones who become SO's because they want to play "cop", with a uniform like this and the quality you get in attracting applicants at that pay range, no doubt, there always is the "wannabe" who begins to actually "play cop". We have a local outfit like that here where I live in SD, full of drama, and the highway patrol and SDPD have had issues with these guys, from speeding like cops on the freeway because their patrol car looks like a real cop car, to outright misrepresenting themselves and breaking the law. So this is an attempt at an "LEO's are superior" thread. Well I happen to be facility security and we all make a pretty decent wage here. I am not a wannabe, I just want to feed my kids, but hey, don't let that stop you from making broad generalizations about the field. Most here are former LEO and CO, and our head is a former APD police chief, but oh well, we are just wannabes. If cops were so superior, then why would companies, who already pay a good portion of LEO's salaries through taxes, have to go and pay for more security out of pocket? I mean, if you guys were doing your jobs there wouldn't be any need right? Get off your high horse. Settle down francis, No one is questioning your professionalism or that of your employer. I'm not a cop, outside of being active duty, I am in your industry as well (security & investigations). The problem I referred to was the individual who decides to become or SO to "play cop". There are many professional SO's out there, the average SO has no input on the type of uniform his employer is requiring him to wear, nor the vehicle he is to patrol in. I find it very odd that some owners of guard companies feel the need to try and mimic LE in every way possible. Seeing as how they are providing security, like cops do, and the companies obviously want to project some kind of authoritative presence (so maybe the security guard isn't as likely to be challenged to hand-to-hand-combat) why would you find that odd? More importantly, if you think it is that big a problem, then what should the law say to prevent it? |
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As long as they don't do anything that is outside of the bounds of a security company, I'm not really seeing the problem. I'm actually surprised they come across as somewhat professional. I'm also curious as to see types of uniforms are available that wouldn't mimic police uniform. Every security guard uniform I've seen closely resembles the police uniform. I see police uniforms that look like what you'd expect a cell phone salesman or mailman to wear, so where do we draw the lines? Yup, I had a funny experience with one of those verizone broadband sales guys(cop uniform), in the dark....it's under what is the stupidest thing you ever said to a cop thread. I know it's probably more comfortable to wear the khakis and polo...but it does lack the look of authority. I thought at first you were accusing me of saying something stupid... lol I don't think police should wear casual wear on duty. I think even a bicycle patrol/community outreach officer should maintain an air of authority. I am all for personable friendly cops, but people have got to know that at the bottom line they are the uncorruptible good guys. At the very least I think a badge, gun, and cuffs should be visible on a uniformed officer, regardless of what uniform he's wearing. |
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As long as they don't do something that only a cop could legally do, what exactly is the problem? Seems to me like you would have more people obeying the speed limit with those guys putting around on motorcycles. One problem is, security pays on average about $10 an hour, the old saying "you get what you pay for.." really comes into play with low wages. What becomes a problem is the ones who become SO's because they want to play "cop", with a uniform like this and the quality you get in attracting applicants at that pay range, no doubt, there always is the "wannabe" who begins to actually "play cop". We have a local outfit like that here where I live in SD, full of drama, and the highway patrol and SDPD have had issues with these guys, from speeding like cops on the freeway because their patrol car looks like a real cop car, to outright misrepresenting themselves and breaking the law. So this is an attempt at an "LEO's are superior" thread. Well I happen to be facility security and we all make a pretty decent wage here. I am not a wannabe, I just want to feed my kids, but hey, don't let that stop you from making broad generalizations about the field. Most here are former LEO and CO, and our head is a former APD police chief, but oh well, we are just wannabes. If cops were so superior, then why would companies, who already pay a good portion of LEO's salaries through taxes, have to go and pay for more security out of pocket? I mean, if you guys were doing your jobs there wouldn't be any need right? Get off your high horse. Settle down francis, No one is questioning your professionalism or that of your employer. I'm not a cop, outside of being active duty, I am in your industry as well (security & investigations). The problem I referred to was the individual who decides to become or SO to "play cop". There are many professional SO's out there, the average SO has no input on the type of uniform his employer is requiring him to wear, nor the vehicle he is to patrol in. I find it very odd that some owners of guard companies feel the need to try and mimic LE in every way possible. Seeing as how they are providing security, like cops do, and the companies obviously want to project some kind of authoritative presence (so maybe the security guard isn't as likely to be challenged to hand-to-hand-combat) why would you find that odd? More importantly, if you think it is that big a problem, then what should the law say to prevent it? BBB, I appreciate that you are new here, but seriously, are we going to go into the specifics of how legislation is passed? I am neither an attorney, nor do I sponsor bills within the state of CA. I offer opinion based on observation, research, and at the behest of noobs, if you'd like.
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As long as they don't do something that only a cop could legally do, what exactly is the problem? Seems to me like you would have more people obeying the speed limit with those guys putting around on motorcycles. One problem is, security pays on average about $10 an hour, the old saying "you get what you pay for.." really comes into play with low wages. What becomes a problem is the ones who become SO's because they want to play "cop", with a uniform like this and the quality you get in attracting applicants at that pay range, no doubt, there always is the "wannabe" who begins to actually "play cop". We have a local outfit like that here where I live in SD, full of drama, and the highway patrol and SDPD have had issues with these guys, from speeding like cops on the freeway because their patrol car looks like a real cop car, to outright misrepresenting themselves and breaking the law. So this is an attempt at an "LEO's are superior" thread. Well I happen to be facility security and we all make a pretty decent wage here. I am not a wannabe, I just want to feed my kids, but hey, don't let that stop you from making broad generalizations about the field. Most here are former LEO and CO, and our head is a former APD police chief, but oh well, we are just wannabes. If cops were so superior, then why would companies, who already pay a good portion of LEO's salaries through taxes, have to go and pay for more security out of pocket? I mean, if you guys were doing your jobs there wouldn't be any need right? Get off your high horse. Settle down francis, No one is questioning your professionalism or that of your employer. I'm not a cop, outside of being active duty, I am in your industry as well (security & investigations). The problem I referred to was the individual who decides to become or SO to "play cop". There are many professional SO's out there, the average SO has no input on the type of uniform his employer is requiring him to wear, nor the vehicle he is to patrol in. I find it very odd that some owners of guard companies feel the need to try and mimic LE in every way possible. Seeing as how they are providing security, like cops do, and the companies obviously want to project some kind of authoritative presence (so maybe the security guard isn't as likely to be challenged to hand-to-hand-combat) why would you find that odd? More importantly, if you think it is that big a problem, then what should the law say to prevent it? BBB, I appreciate that you are new here, but seriously, are we going to go into the specifics of how legislation is passed? I am neither an attorney, nor do I sponsor bills within the state of CA. I offer opinion based on observation, research, and at the behest of noobs, if you'd like.
Well, you apparently think it is a problem. So what do you think we ought to do about it? You know, other than complain and make jokes on an internet forum. |