[ARCHIVED THREAD] - When does this decade really end? (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 12/31/2009 9:02:51 AM EDT
And from another artical HINT- There Never was a Year "0"Many magazines, newspapers, radio and television programs are compiling their "Best of the Decade" lists. But when does a decade really begin, and why? Ten years ago, many were planning Mellenium celebrations, and many of these same magazines were preparing their millenium lists, as well.Since there never was a year "0," the first decade was Years "1-10," and the first century "1-100," and thus the first mellenium was "1-1000." Yet, people keep insisting that decades end when the next year that's last number is "0" begins at midnight (actually, it's at 0:00:01), because midnight is the day before. The same people who insist on this interpretation for decades, etc., have no difficulty in referring to midnight as 12:00 AM, and noon as 12:00 PM, although one would think that 12PM would follow 11PM (12AM follows 11PM), and 12 AM would follow 11 AM (12 PM actually follows 11AM). Why all the fuss, and why all the confusion, and does it really matter anyway? First, let's address the confusion. It is confusing because we refer, for example the 1960's as "The Decade of the 60"s," while in fact that is not the case. That decade actually began in 1961 and concluded in 1970. I think we keep in confusing, and don't really make an attempt to "straighten it out," because it is commercially profitable to have conflicting dates and interpretations, thus permitting two celebrations, two sets of "events," etc., and thus creating additional sources of revenue! Yet, if we want to be technically correct, only the interpretation that decades end in the year with the "0" at the end can be correct, because otherwise the first decade only had nine years, and then it would NOT have been a decade! 
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Since our couting system is based upon tens, the last year of a decade will end in a zero.
2001 was the first year of this decade. Tonight we observe the end of the ninth year of this decade. I don't understand why it's too complicated for some people to grasp. BTW, I didn't vote in a poll because facts aren't subject to opinions. 
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Quoted: Right a big Fail hereQuoted: There was a year zero, it was before year 1. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c96/MattHoffman/1239854053064.jpg WRONG _MaH Yeah what happened that year?.since it's zero nothing happened. it never was |
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The fact that there was never a year 0 is simply a nit-picking bullshit mathematical calculation.
A Decade is 10 years. Decades (notice the S) as entities are denoted by the numbers in them, 30's, 40's, 90's. The latter exists as a "personality" of a period of time based on the 10 year span that begins with x0 and ends with x9. If it weren't so, the 90's would refer to 1991-2000 which automatically negates any common sense as to the 90's. The 90's began in 1990 and ended Dec. 31, 1999. Damn math fags! |
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There was a year zero, it was before year 1. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c96/MattHoffman/1239854053064.jpg WRONG _MaH So you're saying the year zero is AFTER the year one? What happened to it? Did aliens abduct it? I'm onto you and your anti-year zero rhetoric. It was there! 
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I really think the people who believe the decade ends tonight need to sit down with a pencil, a few sheets of paper, and start writing out the decades, starting from when it did start –– Year 1AD.
1AD - 10AD 11AD - 20AD 21AD - 30AD And just continue that until they reach 2001AD - 2010AD before their broken brains will, hopefully, fire off that long dormant synapse of logical understanding and say "Oh!" _MaH ETA: Oh fuck this. 
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Quoted: I really think the people who believe the decade ends tonight need to sit down with a pencil, a few sheets of paper, and start writing out the decades, starting from when it did start –– Year 1AD. 1AD - 10AD 11AD - 20AD 21AD - 30AD And just continue that until they reach 2001AD - 2010AD before their broken brains will, hopefully, fire off that long dormant synapse of logical understanding and say "Oh!" _MaH ETA: Oh fuck this. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c96/MattHoffman/stewie-gun-mouth.jpg  |
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http://clipmarks.forbes.com/tag/when-does-the-decade-end/ The decade the 2010s is about to begin on January 1, 2010. I feel this needs to be addressed in a public service announcement of sorts. I've seen a lot of nonsense about how "the decade doesn't really end until December 31, 2010." Don't be ridiculous. The decade ends in two weeks. A few points. A decade means 10 years. 1995-2004 is a decade. 2000-2009 is a decade. And 2001-2010 is a decade. The bozos insisting that the decade does not end until December 31, 2010 usually base this on the observation that "there was no year 0". True, the calendar begins in 1 AD (though it was adopted some 16 centuries later). But all that the start date of the calendar means is that it would be technically incorrect to refer to 2000-2009 as "the 201st Decade". But, when we talk about "the decade" it's clear that we're not talking about ordinal decades, because nobody ever talks about ordinal decades. I cannot think of a single instance where someone referred to the 1990s as the "200th Decade." It ought to be blindingly obvious, to even the most slathering of idiots, that the 1920s refers to 1920-29. The year 1930? It is not part of the 1920s. The Twenty-Twenties? They will begin on 2020. Obviously. 2030? It will not be part of the Twenty-Twenties. (Nor will anyone ever call this decade "the 203rd Decade"). When we say the decade, we are not referring to the period of time that would correspond with some ordinal decade numbering system. Nobody uses an ordinal numbering system when talking about decades. People are talking about the digit in the tens column. Insisting that the decade ends on December 31, 2010 is not pedantic. It is dumb. And wrong. Spare yourself the embarrassment and don't do it.
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Quoted: Quoted: 12/31/2010. Sometimes the stupid I read on this board amazes me. yes and many vote.. From |
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OK. We'll illustrate the principle in a way most people will be able to understand.
Start counting the digits on your two hands. What number did you end with? I ended with ten. Of course, some of you may have anywhere from 9 to 12 fingers, but I'm talking about the average/norm.
That's about as simple as I can make it. If someone still wants to argue the problem is not in their intellect, but in their will. |
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New years day 2000 was the first day of the last year of the previus millenium right? So the new millenium started 12:01 a.m. 2001, the first day of the new millenium.
The tenth year of the new miilenium begins tomorrow at 12:01 a.m. thus the begining of the last year of the decade. |
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Quoted: New years day 2000 was the first day of the last year of the previus millenium right? So the new millenium started 12:01 a.m. 2001, the first day of the new millenium. The tenth year of the new miilenium begins tomorrow at 12:01 a.m. thus the begining of the last year of the decade.  That's only true if your on a treadmill eating beans in your Texas chili |
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And from another artical HINT- There Never was a Year "0"Many magazines, newspapers, radio and television programs are compiling their "Best of the Decade" lists. But when does a decade really begin, and why? Ten years ago, many were planning Mellenium celebrations, and many of these same magazines were preparing their millenium lists, as well.Since there never was a year "0," the first decade was Years "1-10," and the first century "1-100," and thus the first mellenium was "1-1000." Yet, people keep insisting that decades end when the next year that's last number is "0" begins at midnight (actually, it's at 0:00:01), because midnight is the day before. The same people who insist on this interpretation for decades, etc., have no difficulty in referring to midnight as 12:00 AM, and noon as 12:00 PM, although one would think that 12PM would follow 11PM (12AM follows 11PM), and 12 AM would follow 11 AM (12 PM actually follows 11AM). Why all the fuss, and why all the confusion, and does it really matter anyway? First, let's address the confusion. It is confusing because we refer, for example the 1960's as "The Decade of the 60"s," while in fact that is not the case. That decade actually began in 1961 and concluded in 1970. I think we keep in confusing, and don't really make an attempt to "straighten it out," because it is commercially profitable to have conflicting dates and interpretations, thus permitting two celebrations, two sets of "events," etc., and thus creating additional sources of revenue! Yet, if we want to be technically correct, only the interpretation that decades end in the year with the "0" at the end can be correct, because otherwise the first decade only had nine years, and then it would NOT have been a decade! There is no such thing as 12AM or 12PM. There is 12 noon or 12 midnight.That stupidity is ended when using the 24hr. time system like the military & other countries use. |
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Officially, a decade is 1/1/xxx1 through 12/31/xxx0. A "decade" in most people's minds (and for all practical purposes) is 1/1/xxx0 through 12/31/xxx9. People don't think of "the sixties" as being 1961-1970, they think of 1960-1969. I guess the confusion began when the church decided that the calendar started at year one and not year zero. |
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It ends when I can travel at the speed of light, on a treadmill, turn on my headlights, and see up a possum's ass. But if I could travel at the SoL, chili would have beans and we'd finally know about 9mm vs. .45 vs. .22LR for zombies. But only if it was "go time". Jeeeez. Who cares? 
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Quoted: It ends when I can travel at the speed of light, on a treadmill, turn on my headlights, and see up a possum's ass. But if I could travel at the SoL, chili would have beans and we'd finally know about 9mm vs. .45 vs. .22LR for zombies. But only if it was "go time". Jeeeez. Who cares? Everyone who posted in the thread, evidently. Don't worry about it, my friend. |
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For the 60-some odd percent who failed the poll, was 2000 part of the 1900s? No, that would just be stupid. The 1900s exhaustively included 1900-1999. Was 2000 part of the twentieth century? Well, sure, because of the year-1 explanation. So, the twentieth century and the 1900s are not synonyms. Just like the 201st decade and the aughts are not synonyms. |
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The NAMED decades start at year 0. The MATHEMATICAL decades start at year 1.
You wouldn't say that 1960 was the last year of the '50s. But if you count 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, there are ten years there, and the tenth year ends on the digit 0. That would mean that the last year of the decade is ––-0, which means that the next decade begins on the year ––-1. People who argue which is true are arguing whether light is a particle or a wave. Both are correct, but it depends on how you look at it. |
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I really think the people who believe the decade ends tonight need to sit down with a pencil, a few sheets of paper, and start writing out the decades, starting from when it did start –– Year 1AD. 1AD - 10AD 11AD - 20AD 21AD - 30AD And just continue that until they reach 2001AD - 2010AD before their broken brains will, hopefully, fire off that long dormant synapse of logical understanding and say "Oh!" _MaH ETA: Oh fuck this. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c96/MattHoffman/stewie-gun-mouth.jpg
Once again, +1.
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Good lord.
Any fucking idiot knows a decade is 10 years. Obviously the first decade.......that we counted only had 9 years. Yes our math is based on 10 digits. Let's use our ages for an example..... We have the the teens....is 20 a teen? Are you a teenage when you are 20? We have the 30's, are you a thirty something when you are 40? See how that works? |
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A decade is 10 consecutive years. Your question is absurd because any consecutive 10 years is a decade. It would depend entirely on which "this" decade you are referring to.
I could declare that 2005 to 2014 is this decade and I would not be incorrect since this year falls into that decade. For those of you arguing over it: 
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For the 60-some odd percent who failed the poll, was 2000 part of the 1900s? No, that would just be stupid. The 1900s exhaustively included 1900-1999. Was 2000 part of the twentieth century? Well, sure, because of the year-1 explanation. So, the twentieth century and the 1900s are not synonyms. Just like the 201st decade and the aughts are not synonyms. You are failing at simple logic and critical though... There was a no 0 year therefore yes 2000 was part of the 1991-2000 decade as it was part of the 20th Century (1901-2000) just like the 1st Century was 1-100. |
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I really think the people who believe the decade ends tonight need to sit down with a pencil, a few sheets of paper, and start writing out the decades, starting from when it did start –– Year 1AD. 1AD - 10AD 11AD - 20AD 21AD - 30AD And just continue that until they reach 2001AD - 2010AD before their broken brains will, hopefully, fire off that long dormant synapse of logical understanding and say "Oh!" _MaH ETA: Oh fuck this. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c96/MattHoffman/stewie-gun-mouth.jpg
Once again, +1. So can someone please explain to me how there was no year "0"? did we just go from 1BC to 1AD? On a timeline in order for it to be matmatically correct there would have to be a pivot point aka "0". If we did just skip it and went from 1 to 1, then we are tards and it is actually 2008. |
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Quoted: Critical what?Quoted: For the 60-some odd percent who failed the poll, was 2000 part of the 1900s? No, that would just be stupid. The 1900s exhaustively included 1900-1999. Was 2000 part of the twentieth century? Well, sure, because of the year-1 explanation. So, the twentieth century and the 1900s are not synonyms. Just like the 201st decade and the aughts are not synonyms. You are failing at simple logic and critical though... There was a no 0 year therefore yes 2000 was part of the 1991-2000 decade as it was part of the 20th Century (1901-2000) just like the 1st Century was 1-100. Anyway, like a poster above mentioned, the OP never said which group of ten years he was talking about. Was he talking about the 201st decade? Or was he talking about the aughts? |
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Good lord. Any fucking idiot knows a decade is 10 years. Obviously the first decade.......that we counted only had 9 years. Yes our math is based on 10 digits. Let's use our ages for an example..... We have the the teens....is 20 a teen? Are you a teenage when you are 20? We have the 30's, are you a thirty something when you are 40? See how that works? Are you a teenager when you're 12?
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Quoted: So can someone please explain to me how there was no year "0"? did we just go from 1BC to 1AD? On a timeline in order for it to be matmatically correct there would have to be a pivot point aka "0". If we did just skip it and went from 1 to 1, then we are tards and it is actually 2008. They went back retroactively to label the years. Up until then, the Romans were using AUC. Someone said, "We think the Lord was born then, so let's call it 1. The year before, well, let's call it 1 year before Christ." |
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There has never been a "year zero" unless you count Cambodia. Year zero was identified retrospectively about 500 years later and the Romans themselves had a different calendar system that didn't count years, the just named the after Consuls.