[ARCHIVED THREAD] - 28 Weeks Later Helicopter Question (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/30/2009 9:17:30 AM EDT
Could you really use the rotor blades to chop up hordes of zombies and not have them damaged to the point of causing a crash? 
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Is that the dude who died in the filming of the Twilight Zone movie? I once saw a clip of the helicopter crashing on him.   |
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In 28 days they chose weapons that would have blood splattering all over the place. They would be sucking a rage virus milkshake after every attack. Great movie though. I haven't watched 28 weeks in a while, I just remember not to kiss any ladies with crazy eyes. |
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Quoted: In 28 days they chose weapons that would have blood splattering all over the place. They would be sucking a rage virus milkshake after every attack. Great movie though. I haven't watched 28 weeks in a while, I just remember not to kiss any ladies with crazy eyes. 28 Weeks later is extremely unrealistic. |
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Holy crap... Warning- this is pretty shocking http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djVBzrucNLY&feature=player_embedded# |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Probably one of the DUMBEST things I've seen in cinema.  I hear ya. I just want movies to be more real. With zombies.   haha. Yeah lets not overlook the fact that there were ZOMBIES in the movie. That was totally believable. They weren't zombies, it's just an very extreme case of rabies. They were living people, not dead.  |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Probably one of the DUMBEST things I've seen in cinema. I hear ya. I just want movies to be more real. With zombies. haha. Yeah lets not overlook the fact that there were ZOMBIES in the movie. That was totally believable. They weren't zombies, it's just an very extreme case of rabies. They were living people, not dead. Totally believable!!! |
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Quoted: I read a book written by a dust off pilot in Vietnam. He claims his Huey was once so overloaded, that he was chopping the tops off of trees leaving a LZ. They made it out and I don't think he mentioned serious damage to the rotors. Embellishment? He could have been chopping off palm fronds, but not through wood. |
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This is actually an unwritten procedure which is being taught by certain instructors at Ft. Rucker Alabama.
The technique was pioneered by a 160th SOAR pilot flying a Little Bird in Somalia during the infamous Black Hawk Down incident. After strafing swarms of attacking skinnies, he ran low on ammo and proceeded to fly down the streets at shoulder level. By all accounts, the actions were effective and resulted in a respectable body count of between 75 to 150 KIA. There was some debate over the practicability of using rotor chopping against people of normal stature. That controversy seems to have been put to rest during the nineteen subsequent documented actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Apaches are recognized as the preferred platform due to their armored rotors, however, the maneuver has has also been successfully performed in Blackhawks and a Chinooks with little to no damage. Generally, a borescope of the engines, and a pressure wash of the Rotors, Airframe and Nacelles, is all that is needed for a quick return to service. The details are classified of course, but the technique is well known within Army Aviation circles. |
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Quoted: Quoted: In 28 days they chose weapons that would have blood splattering all over the place. They would be sucking a rage virus milkshake after every attack. Great movie though. I haven't watched 28 weeks in a while, I just remember not to kiss any ladies with crazy eyes. 28 Weeks later is extremely unrealistic. wait how is crazy zombie sex unrealistic. |
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This is actually an unwritten procedure which is being taught by certain instructors at Ft. Rucker Alabama. The technique was pioneered by a 160th SOAR pilot flying a Little Bird in Somalia during the infamous Black Hawk Down incident. After strafing swarms of attacking skinnies, he ran low on ammo and proceeded to fly down the streets at shoulder level. By all accounts, the actions were effective and resulted in a respectable body count of between 75 to 150 KIA. There was some debate over the practicability of using rotor chopping against people of normal stature. That controversy seems to have been put to rest during the nineteen subsequent documented actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Apaches are recognized as the preferred platform due to their armored rotors, however, the maneuver has has also been successfully performed in Blackhawks and a Chinooks with little to no damage. Generally, a borescope of the engines, and a pressure wash of the Rotors, Airframe and Nacelles, is all that is needed for a quick return to service. The details are classified of course, but the technique is well known within Army Aviation circles. Well that is quite interesting and deffinatly something i have never heard. I would like to see vids of this lol. Seems rather dangerous to the pilot and crew getting that low iraq is mostly urban seems that it might be hard to do such in that enviroment. |
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This is actually an unwritten procedure which is being taught by certain instructors at Ft. Rucker Alabama. The technique was pioneered by a 160th SOAR pilot flying a Little Bird in Somalia during the infamous Black Hawk Down incident. After strafing swarms of attacking skinnies, he ran low on ammo and proceeded to fly down the streets at shoulder level. By all accounts, the actions were effective and resulted in a respectable body count of between 75 to 150 KIA. There was some debate over the practicability of using rotor chopping against people of normal stature. That controversy seems to have been put to rest during the nineteen subsequent documented actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Apaches are recognized as the preferred platform due to their armored rotors, however, the maneuver has has also been successfully performed in Blackhawks and a Chinooks with little to no damage. Generally, a borescope of the engines, and a pressure wash of the Rotors, Airframe and Nacelles, is all that is needed for a quick return to service. The details are classified of course, but the technique is well known within Army Aviation circles. F-15 pilots are also trained to fly low and take out enemy combatants with their wingtips, I bet. The CIA probably uses the arrester hooks on naval aircraft to abduct foreign targets for interrogation, too. |
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This is actually an unwritten procedure which is being taught by certain instructors at Ft. Rucker Alabama. The technique was pioneered by a 160th SOAR pilot flying a Little Bird in Somalia during the infamous Black Hawk Down incident. After strafing swarms of attacking skinnies, he ran low on ammo and proceeded to fly down the streets at shoulder level. By all accounts, the actions were effective and resulted in a respectable body count of between 75 to 150 KIA. There was some debate over the practicability of using rotor chopping against people of normal stature. That controversy seems to have been put to rest during the nineteen subsequent documented actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Apaches are recognized as the preferred platform due to their armored rotors, however, the maneuver has has also been successfully performed in Blackhawks and a Chinooks with little to no damage. Generally, a borescope of the engines, and a pressure wash of the Rotors, Airframe and Nacelles, is all that is needed for a quick return to service. The details are classified of course, but the technique is well known within Army Aviation circles. Mother of God that is awesome. |
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This is actually an unwritten procedure which is being taught by certain instructors at Ft. Rucker Alabama. The technique was pioneered by a 160th SOAR pilot flying a Little Bird in Somalia during the infamous Black Hawk Down incident. After strafing swarms of attacking skinnies, he ran low on ammo and proceeded to fly down the streets at shoulder level. By all accounts, the actions were effective and resulted in a respectable body count of between 75 to 150 KIA. There was some debate over the practicability of using rotor chopping against people of normal stature. That controversy seems to have been put to rest during the nineteen subsequent documented actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Apaches are recognized as the preferred platform due to their armored rotors, however, the maneuver has has also been successfully performed in Blackhawks and a Chinooks with little to no damage. Generally, a borescope of the engines, and a pressure wash of the Rotors, Airframe and Nacelles, is all that is needed for a quick return to service. The details are classified of course, but the technique is well known within Army Aviation circles. 
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This is actually an unwritten procedure which is being taught by certain instructors at Ft. Rucker Alabama. The technique was pioneered by a 160th SOAR pilot flying a Little Bird in Somalia during the infamous Black Hawk Down incident. After strafing swarms of attacking skinnies, he ran low on ammo and proceeded to fly down the streets at shoulder level. By all accounts, the actions were effective and resulted in a respectable body count of between 75 to 150 KIA. There was some debate over the practicability of using rotor chopping against people of normal stature. That controversy seems to have been put to rest during the nineteen subsequent documented actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Apaches are recognized as the preferred platform due to their armored rotors, however, the maneuver has has also been successfully performed in Blackhawks and a Chinooks with little to no damage. Generally, a borescope of the engines, and a pressure wash of the Rotors, Airframe and Nacelles, is all that is needed for a quick return to service. The details are classified of course, but the technique is well known within Army Aviation circles. I'm really curious how they did that, when the rotors stand a good 6 feet (ETA: total height of an MD-500 is 8' 6") from the deck. Were the skids underground? I know! They had engineers quickly blast a trench the helo could fly down! It was like Star Wars! |
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This is actually an unwritten procedure which is being taught by certain instructors at Ft. Rucker Alabama. The technique was pioneered by a 160th SOAR pilot flying a Little Bird in Somalia during the infamous Black Hawk Down incident. After strafing swarms of attacking skinnies, he ran low on ammo and proceeded to fly down the streets at shoulder level. By all accounts, the actions were effective and resulted in a respectable body count of between 75 to 150 KIA. There was some debate over the practicability of using rotor chopping against people of normal stature. That controversy seems to have been put to rest during the nineteen subsequent documented actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Apaches are recognized as the preferred platform due to their armored rotors, however, the maneuver has has also been successfully performed in Blackhawks and a Chinooks with little to no damage. Generally, a borescope of the engines, and a pressure wash of the Rotors, Airframe and Nacelles, is all that is needed for a quick return to service. The details are classified of course, but the technique is well known within Army Aviation circles. I'm really curious how they did that, when the rotors stand a good 6 feet (ETA: total height of an MD-500 is 8' 6") from the deck. Were the skids underground? I know! They had engineers quickly blast a trench the helo could fly down! It was like Star Wars! All the pilot had to do was roll the aircraft forward a little bit. Or sideways. No special technique needed, it's the normal way that a helicopter moves. |
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This is actually an unwritten procedure which is being taught by certain instructors at Ft. Rucker Alabama. The technique was pioneered by a 160th SOAR pilot flying a Little Bird in Somalia during the infamous Black Hawk Down incident. After strafing swarms of attacking skinnies, he ran low on ammo and proceeded to fly down the streets at shoulder level. By all accounts, the actions were effective and resulted in a respectable body count of between 75 to 150 KIA. There was some debate over the practicability of using rotor chopping against people of normal stature. That controversy seems to have been put to rest during the nineteen subsequent documented actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Apaches are recognized as the preferred platform due to their armored rotors, however, the maneuver has has also been successfully performed in Blackhawks and a Chinooks with little to no damage. Generally, a borescope of the engines, and a pressure wash of the Rotors, Airframe and Nacelles, is all that is needed for a quick return to service. The details are classified of course, but the technique is well known within Army Aviation circles. F-15 pilots are also trained to fly low and take out enemy combatants with their wingtips, I bet. The CIA probably uses the arrester hooks on naval aircraft to abduct foreign targets for interrogation, too. Both of you will be visited tonight. There will be a knock on the door, you will answer it, and the lights will go out The rest of you, forget what you read here.
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I have trouble believing that they'd try to decapitate people by flying multi-million dollar attack helicopters at them at ground level. Much as I'd like to see it
Then again, I know we used plow-equipped Abrams to fill in occupied trenches in the First Gulf War, so unusual tactics do pop up. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This is actually an unwritten procedure which is being taught by certain instructors at Ft. Rucker Alabama. The technique was pioneered by a 160th SOAR pilot flying a Little Bird in Somalia during the infamous Black Hawk Down incident. After strafing swarms of attacking skinnies, he ran low on ammo and proceeded to fly down the streets at shoulder level. By all accounts, the actions were effective and resulted in a respectable body count of between 75 to 150 KIA. There was some debate over the practicability of using rotor chopping against people of normal stature. That controversy seems to have been put to rest during the nineteen subsequent documented actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Apaches are recognized as the preferred platform due to their armored rotors, however, the maneuver has has also been successfully performed in Blackhawks and a Chinooks with little to no damage. Generally, a borescope of the engines, and a pressure wash of the Rotors, Airframe and Nacelles, is all that is needed for a quick return to service. The details are classified of course, but the technique is well known within Army Aviation circles. I'm really curious how they did that, when the rotors stand a good 6 feet (ETA: total height of an MD-500 is 8' 6") from the deck. Were the skids underground? I know! They had engineers quickly blast a trench the helo could fly down! It was like Star Wars! All the pilot had to do was roll the aircraft forward a little bit. Or sideways. No special technique needed, it's the normal way that a helicopter moves. Inverted.  |
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I have trouble believing that they'd try to decapitate people by flying multi-million dollar attack helicopters at them at ground level. Much as I'd like to see it
Then again, I know we used plow-equipped Abrams to fill in occupied trenches in the First Gulf War, so unusual tactics do pop up. You haven't met too many Army Helicopter pilots have you?
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This is actually an unwritten procedure which is being taught by certain instructors at Ft. Rucker Alabama. The technique was pioneered by a 160th SOAR pilot flying a Little Bird in Somalia during the infamous Black Hawk Down incident. After strafing swarms of attacking skinnies, he ran low on ammo and proceeded to fly down the streets at shoulder level. By all accounts, the actions were effective and resulted in a respectable body count of between 75 to 150 KIA. There was some debate over the practicability of using rotor chopping against people of normal stature. That controversy seems to have been put to rest during the nineteen subsequent documented actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Apaches are recognized as the preferred platform due to their armored rotors, however, the maneuver has has also been successfully performed in Blackhawks and a Chinooks with little to no damage. Generally, a borescope of the engines, and a pressure wash of the Rotors, Airframe and Nacelles, is all that is needed for a quick return to service. The details are classified of course, but the technique is well known within Army Aviation circles. I'm really curious how they did that, when the rotors stand a good 6 feet (ETA: total height of an MD-500 is 8' 6") from the deck. Were the skids underground? I know! They had engineers quickly blast a trench the helo could fly down! It was like Star Wars! The helicopter might have been tilted slightly down, toward the front. |
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The guy talking about chopping off the refueling hose is spot on.
Depending on the blade, it "may be damaged beyond flight capabilities" but if it's the Big Iron (CH53E's) then a zombie is having a bad day. I crewed/worked on 53's for 11 years, you would be amazed at the abuse those blades will take before you even pop a BIM light. We cut down cactus at CAX with tail rotors and never even knew it, had pilots chop off refueling hose (which I PROMISE you is a lot tougher than a human/zombie) etc. For a little bird it probably wouldn't work out but if you're cruising around in the Cadillac of the sky, zombies don't stand a chance 
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