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12/11/2009 11:06:38 AM EDT
tv shows like they used to make, i dont watch alot of tv, and i spend alot of time outdoors....but i remember when i was younger watching kojak, magnum, china beach, and macguyver to name a few
now every time i turn on the tv....its BS news, hollywood shows tmz? or fake ass csi shows....

edit watching magnum now
12/11/2009 11:07:21 AM EDT
[#1]
Good question, I have no answer
12/11/2009 11:09:39 AM EDT
[#2]
Go rent the first season of The Wire.  Best series I have ever seen, bar none.
12/11/2009 11:12:23 AM EDT
[#3]
It's just gradually moving towards 24/7 "ow my balls"
12/11/2009 11:13:02 AM EDT
[#4]
There have been decent shows on, even recently. However they are considered too cerebral.

Think of Jericho, The Unit, and Firefly.  All really good shows that no one watched because they didn't pander to the easy laugh or soap opera drama...
12/11/2009 11:13:44 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Go rent the first season of The Wire.  Best series I have ever seen, bar none.


know not of this show? details...
should also say i dont get all the high cable shows, usually get a red box, watch football, or get on the internet if im in the house...
12/11/2009 11:13:57 AM EDT
[#6]
Wasn't china beach an anti-war liberal show?
Maybe I'm not remembering it correctly though.....
12/11/2009 11:15:17 AM EDT
[#7]


I loved the 80s shows: Simon & Simon, Riptide, Magnum, Hardcastle and McCormick, Street Hawk, Airwolf, etc, etc.  I think people are more into living their lives vicariously through reality shows (American Idol) or shows that portray reality through real or imagined technology (CSI).  I don't think people watch TV anymore merely for the entertainment value.

12/11/2009 11:15:21 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
There have been decent shows on, even recently. However they are considered too cerebral.

Think of Jericho, The Unit, and Firefly.  All really good shows that no one watched because they didn't pander to the easy laugh or soap opera drama...


saw several episodes of jericho...good, but it isnt on now, the unit was decent....but i still dont think theres anything like those old school ones..."do something silly, so i can break your legs"-kojak
12/11/2009 11:15:59 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Go rent the first season of The Wire.  Best series I have ever seen, bar none.


know not of this show? details...
should also say i dont get all the high cable shows, usually get a red box, watch football, or get on the internet if im in the house...

You know the "dirty cop in maryland" threads? That is basically 'The Wire.' They all seem like decent cops trying to get the bad guys, but they often use unjustifiable techniques.

(I am only 6 episodes into the first season, but a lot of people have recomended it, and so far they have all been right.)
12/11/2009 11:17:06 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Wasn't china beach an anti-war liberal show?
Maybe I'm not remembering it correctly though.....


to young to really care, it was a war show so i liked it...

airwolf....hell yea son, i loved that show
12/11/2009 11:21:15 AM EDT
[#11]
What about decent comedy shows, Married With Children is still funny even now
12/11/2009 11:28:52 AM EDT
[#12]
I like to watch House, but that's about it these days.



I spend my free time here on ARFCOM.
12/11/2009 11:30:32 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
It's just gradually moving towards 24/7 "ow my balls"


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12/11/2009 11:31:05 AM EDT
[#14]
Most of those shows sucked.





House is good with great eye candy, i was hoping Cameron and thirteen would lez out.
12/11/2009 11:39:44 AM EDT
[#15]
why think when you can vegetate?  i can't wait to go home and play some modern warfare 2...
12/11/2009 11:52:18 AM EDT
[#16]
There are some good shows on now, but you've got to really look hard for them.  



Nip/Tuck has been going downhill, but its still pretty good.  

Dexter is really, really good.  

Sons of Anarchy is the best thing on TV.  

Burn Notice starts back up in January and its deffinently worth a watch.  

Top Gear is a British show, and I have to download it to get uncut episodes but its really great.  

Dollhouse has been getting good, but I heard a rumor its being canceled.

I'm not sure if I like Castle just because its Nathan Fillion in the lead role or not.
12/11/2009 11:58:48 AM EDT
[#17]
It's all crap, and it was crap back then too.  Mindless indoctrinating drivel.



Why people pay all that money for 100's of channels of crap is something I'll never understand.
12/11/2009 12:08:56 PM EDT
[#18]
My serious answer


I think the reality shiws took off after a writers strike a few yeArs ago


Then they found
a. Folks watch
b and they are cheap to make
12/11/2009 12:13:06 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
My serious answer


I think the reality shiws took off after a writers strike a few yeArs ago


Then they found
a. Folks watch
b and they are cheap to make


That's very true but I also think that freed up a lot of money and creative energy for each network to produce a few flagship high-quality series.  Other networks that don't even produce reality shows are creating their own signature series now - see Showtime (Dexter) and AMC (Mad Men).

12/11/2009 12:24:08 PM EDT
[#20]
It is really very simple:

It is cheaper for the networks to produce "Reality" shows than to produce the other types of shows.

Look at some shows on the cable channels.  Burn Notice, Lie To Me, Leverage, etc. are actually pretty good.

-OR-

Just watch the classics on one of the retro stations.  

Mannix was one of the most violent shows ever shown on network TV.  Mike Connors got shot, knocked unconscious or drugged on every show.

The Rockford Files was also good.  

12/11/2009 12:29:38 PM EDT
[#21]
Go buy a book.

12/11/2009 12:35:22 PM EDT
[#22]


I miss In Search Of...






12/11/2009 12:37:47 PM EDT
[#23]
Burn Notice, NCIS, The Closer.
12/11/2009 12:39:44 PM EDT
[#24]
There has been some terrible terrible television at other times too. Don't get lost in the nostalgia.
 
12/11/2009 12:41:22 PM EDT
[#25]
Lets not forget about the equalizer!
12/11/2009 12:45:04 PM EDT
[#26]




Quoted:

Go rent the first season of The Wire. Best series I have ever seen, bar none.


Dude, I can not stress enough what a fantastic series The Wire is/was. I have the DVD collection and watch it often.



"Omar commin' y'all, Omar commin!"  Best character on the show.  



"Now you knows I nevers put my's gun on nobobdys wun't in the game yo" - Omar Little



'Life is the shit that happens between moments that never come" - Downtown Lester Freeman

12/11/2009 12:46:37 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
There has been some terrible terrible television at other times too. Don't get lost in the nostalgia.  


Truth!
12/11/2009 12:50:52 PM EDT
[#28]
Archie Bunker
12/11/2009 12:51:52 PM EDT
[#29]
LOST!!!



/endthread.
12/11/2009 12:54:40 PM EDT
[#30]



Quoted:


Wasn't china beach an anti-war liberal show?


Maybe I'm not remembering it correctly though.....


The same could probably said about MASH especially, after Alan Aldan took greater control of the show, but I still love to watch it.  Another old classic I love is Hogan's Heroes.



 
12/11/2009 12:54:49 PM EDT
[#31]
I agree the list of things worth watching on TV is very short.  However Breaking Bad, on AMC is a good series.  
12/11/2009 12:57:36 PM EDT
[#32]
As the years have gone by, TV writers have gotten lazier but have found that the audiences are just as receptive.

Therefore, there is very little incentive for them to work harder just to develop compelling characters and plot lines or write clever dialogue. It's much simpler to just throw together a Black Panther, a White Supremacist, two drunken college sluts, a Guido and a stoner in a house and let them all try for their 15 minutes of fame. As long as there are editors who are willing to take 168 hours of coverage every week from each of two dozen cameras and distill it down to 44 minutes of artificial drama, the salivating dogs that constitute the American TV viewer will continue to lap it up.

Excuse me. Judge Judy is coming on now.
12/12/2009 4:49:12 PM EDT
[#33]
Here you go...

http://www.myretrotv.com/
12/12/2009 4:51:11 PM EDT
[#34]
Burn Notice is a pretty good show that kind of fits in with the 80's shows.
12/12/2009 5:11:03 PM EDT
[#35]



Quoted:

Sons of Anarchy is the best thing on TV.  

Burn Notice starts back up in January and its deffinently worth a watch.  



FTW



 
12/12/2009 5:18:59 PM EDT
[#36]
24?
The Shield?
The Unit?
Burn Notice?
NCIS?
Psych?

Any of these ring a bell?
12/12/2009 5:22:39 PM EDT
[#37]
I like Lost, Castle, Chuck and a few others, but for the most part I watch Fox news or HBO, Cinemax or one of the other pay channels.
12/12/2009 5:23:53 PM EDT
[#38]
reality shows get the sheep to view "real life" shit plus its way fucking cheaper to keep pumping these out than scripted dramas and paying actors that demand high dollars per ep.



sad really.
12/12/2009 5:35:42 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
reality shows get the sheep to view "real life" shit plus its way fucking cheaper to keep pumping these out than scripted dramas and paying actors that demand high dollars per ep.

sad really.


All it is, is an extension of the game show craze.  There's nothing inherently more self-humiliating about Big Brother or Survivor than there was about the Dating Game or the Newlywed Game.