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AR15.COM
11/24/2009 9:56:43 PM EDT
Obamacare May Target Gun Owners
Jillian Bandes

Who might be the next victim of Obamacare? Gun owners.

Government health care reform "will most likely dump your gun-related health data into a government database…that can preclude you from owning firearms,” said Gun Owners of America, in an email notification to their members, shortly before the health care debate on Saturday. GOA said that diagnoses such as post-traumatic stress disorders or other mental illnesses could be a reason the government uses to charge you more for health insurance under the public plan, or as part of co-op regulations.

Larry Pratt, executive director of GOA, said the chances of Uncle Sam using his power to regulate health care based on gun ownership was even better because Kathleen Sebelius is the head of the Department of Health and Human Services, the agency that would be in charge of specific health care regulations and their enforcement. Sebelius has a long anti-gun history, responsible for vetoes of concealed carry bills in Kansas.

“Gun owners are likely to be in there with fat people,” said Pratt.

It wouldn’t be the first time gun ownership has been tied to health regulation. GOA claims that over 150,000 vets with post-traumatic stress disorder are currently on a list that prohibits gun purchases. But Obamacare would expand government health care to millions of additional Americans.

Calls to Sebelius’ office were not returned, though a member of her press office laughed out loud when questioned about the prospect of health care being tied to gun ownership, saying, “that’s crazy.”

But Michael Cannon, director of health policy studies at the Cato Institute, said such regulations were quite possible. The problem stems from government’s overriding cost-benefit assessments and their take on health issues.

“This legislation will politicize anything that has to do with health and health insurance claims,” he said. “The anti-gun lobby has, for decades now, tried to paint firearms owners as unsafe. It will only be a matter of time before they start making that argument in the new forum of health insurance.”

The Center for Disease Control has been one of the government agencies pushing gun ownership as hazardous to one’s health, and Pratt, and the National Institute for Health is catching on.

“They would be required to evaluate the compulsory health mandates that are contained within this legislation,” said Pratt. “That could make life uncomfortable for people.”

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11/24/2009 10:06:03 PM EDT
[#1]
GOA likes to do the chicken little thing.
11/24/2009 10:06:49 PM EDT
[#2]



Quoted:


GOA likes to do the chicken little thing.


Why don't you go play on a busy freeway.



 
11/24/2009 10:34:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Guns in the home are XX% more likely to injure you blah blah blah....says the federal government.
You must have health insurance or go to jail.
Goverment will be the only insurer available.
Government may not insure you with a gun in the home, beer in the fridge, smokes in the drawer, etc, etc, etc.
11/24/2009 10:45:55 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
GOA likes to do the chicken little thing.


potato salad
11/24/2009 10:50:22 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
GOA likes to do the chicken little thing.


You still here?
11/24/2009 10:57:09 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
GOA likes to do the chicken little thing.


what's the chicken little thing?
11/24/2009 10:57:21 PM EDT
[#7]
In the end there's always the four words

care to guess what they are?
11/24/2009 10:58:06 PM EDT
[#8]
Sounds like paranoia to me, but it's still worth watching out for.
11/24/2009 11:01:08 PM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:


Sounds like paranoia to me, but it's still worth watching out for.


It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.




 
11/24/2009 11:02:17 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Sounds like paranoia to me, but it's still worth watching out for.


Alot of daily life is going to come under tighter scrutiny because of socialized medicine.
11/24/2009 11:22:19 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
In the end there's always the four words

care to guess what they are?


Come and take it.
11/24/2009 11:28:02 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Sounds like paranoia to me, but it's still worth watching out for.

It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
 


It isn't a matter of whether or not you are paranoid, it is a matter of whether or not you are paranoid enough.
11/24/2009 11:43:02 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
In the end there's always the four words

care to guess what they are?


Don't tread on me.  
11/24/2009 11:46:11 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Guns in the home are XX% more likely to injure you blah blah blah....says the federal government.
You must have health insurance or go to jail.
Goverment will be the only insurer available.
Government may not insure you with a gun in the home, beer in the fridge, smokes in the drawer, etc, etc, etc.


Ted's car hurt more people than all my guns combined.

11/25/2009 12:17:49 AM EDT
[#15]
I smoke

Drink

Own guns

Am slightly overweight

Not vegetarian

and my farts stink



Therefore, I am uninsurable, so I will probably die next week from a heart attack with a lit smoke and open beer, while cleaning a firearm with bacon grease.



I dunno what I was trying to get at, I've been drinking.  

11/25/2009 2:38:49 AM EDT
[#16]
Wouldn't surprise me that they'd try to do it at some point down the road.

Doing so would fit in with their anti-gun aganda, and quite a few in His Majesty's Administration have outright said that they have NO PROBLEM in using the Gov't to "nudge" prople's behavior in the right direction.

Nope, if this so-called Health Reform is enacted, and this gang stays in power long enough, I'd expect something of the sort.
11/25/2009 3:04:24 AM EDT
[#17]
Chicken Little thing?? Bull S... Just how long do you think the feds will be paying out for gangsta bullet wounds in the cities? Not long and they will roll in and attempt to take em....
If you don't think so you are sadly mistaken and burrying your head in the sand
11/25/2009 3:09:51 AM EDT
[#18]
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Wouldn't surprise me that they'd try to do it at some point down the road.

Doing so would fit in with their anti-gun aganda, and quite a few in His Majesty's Administration have outright said that they have NO PROBLEM in using the Gov't to "nudge" prople's behavior in the right direction.
Nope, if this so-called Health Reform is enacted, and this gang stays in power long enough, I'd expect something of the sort.


They've been doing it to smokers for years.
11/25/2009 3:25:46 AM EDT
[#19]
universal healthcare will be the deathblow to freedom as we know it . anyone who doesn't see that is hopeless anyhow , fuck em'
11/25/2009 3:30:25 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
GOA likes to do the chicken little thing.


11/25/2009 3:33:30 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
In the end there's always the four words

care to guess what they are?


No, two words, they are Greek.

11/25/2009 3:36:29 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I smoke
Drink
Own guns
Am slightly overweight
Not vegetarian
and my farts stink

Therefore, I am uninsurable, so I will probably die next week from a heart attack with a lit smoke and open beer, while cleaning a firearm with bacon grease.

I dunno what I was trying to get at, I've been drinking.  


11/25/2009 3:41:35 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Sounds like paranoia to me, but it's still worth watching out for.

It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
 


11/25/2009 3:43:14 AM EDT
[#24]
It has been said that if one does not purchase the coverage or pay the fee for not purchasing it they will be fined and may face being imprisoned. Just how many federal felons are allowed to own firearms anyway?
11/25/2009 3:50:43 AM EDT
[#25]
May hell.  Does anybody actually believe we won't see new gun control legislation in this term?
11/25/2009 3:59:43 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
GOA likes to do the chicken little thing.


...so says the guy who likes to do the Benedict Arnold thing.
11/25/2009 4:12:34 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
In the end there's always the four words

care to guess what they are?


"Republicans are kinda better?"
11/25/2009 4:13:35 AM EDT
[#28]



Quoted:



Quoted:

In the end there's always the four words



care to guess what they are?




No, two words, they are Greek.



I see what you did there.





 
11/25/2009 4:15:57 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
I smoke
Drink
Own guns
Am slightly overweight
Not vegetarian
and my farts stink

Therefore, I am uninsurable, so I will probably die next week from a heart attack with a lit smoke and open beer, while cleaning a firearm with bacon grease.

I dunno what I was trying to get at, I've been drinking.  


http://i37.tinypic.com/o5p0qs.jpg
11/25/2009 4:17:59 AM EDT
[#30]
That is why gun control isn't on the top of Obama's list of things to get done.  All he needs is health care to control everything including guns, tobacco, alcohol, obesity, food, junk food and behavior.  He only needs health care to control lifestyle in the name of "decreasing health care costs" when govt run health care ends up costing trillions upon trillions.  Anybody who doesn't see that coming has a small mind.

11/25/2009 4:19:45 AM EDT
[#31]


Come get some!
11/25/2009 4:19:52 AM EDT
[#32]




Quoted:





Quoted:

GOA likes to do the chicken little thing.


Why don't you go play on a busy freeway.





LOL.
11/25/2009 4:21:53 AM EDT
[#33]



Quoted:


In the end there's always the four words



care to guess what they are?


Fuck Obama??



wait....



 
11/25/2009 4:24:29 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Quoted:
In the end there's always the four words

care to guess what they are?


Don't tread on me.  


...shall not be infringed.

11/25/2009 4:26:09 AM EDT
[#35]
Universal Obamacare will be used as a political weapon against dissenters.  Not immediately, but as this become part of our daily lives, and the Democrats follow up with immigration amnesty to guarantee their majorities, they will never be unelected.  Then the games begin.  Imagine getting delays for much needed treatment or none at all for unexplained reasons.
11/25/2009 4:34:31 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Universal Obamacare will be used as a political weapon against dissenters.  Not immediately, but as this become part of our daily lives, and the Democrats follow up with immigration amnesty to guarantee their majorities, they will never be unelected.  Then the games begin.  Imagine getting delays for much needed treatment or none at all for unexplained reasons.


Yep.  Fucked we are.  
11/25/2009 4:37:11 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Guns in the home are XX% more likely to injure you blah blah blah....says the federal government.
You must have health insurance or go to jail.
Goverment will be the only insurer available.
Government may not insure you with a gun in the home, beer in the fridge, smokes in the drawer, etc, etc, etc.


This...
11/25/2009 4:37:12 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Chicken Little thing?? Bull S... Just how long do you think the feds will be paying out for gangsta bullet wounds in the cities? Not long and they will roll in and attempt to take em....
If you don't think so you are sadly mistaken and burrying your head in the sand


DLoken is an Obamabot.
11/25/2009 4:37:40 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Chicken Little thing?? Bull S... Just how long do you think the feds will be paying out for gangsta bullet wounds in the cities? Not long and they will roll in and attempt to take em....
If you don't think so you are sadly mistaken and burrying your head in the sand


they won't do shit against one of their most reliable voting groups.