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11/23/2009 9:23:02 PM EDT
1. Its go time but I am not going, someone else go first.





2. Its not go time and my not going proves it.





3. Is past go time but I am still not going





4. Its past go time and we are screwed
I need to stop being an ass when people say "its go time" or ask "is it time yet?" I really do and another member max229 rightly called me out on it.
What I want to know is. Why mention it or ask when one is obviously not "going" ?




 
11/23/2009 9:23:35 PM EDT
[#1]
IBTP
11/23/2009 9:24:44 PM EDT
[#2]



Quoted:


IBTP


BustinCaps is in.



 
11/23/2009 9:25:26 PM EDT
[#3]
Its past fo time but some of us aren't ready yet.
11/23/2009 9:25:52 PM EDT
[#4]
IBTP

So......




















are you saying it may be fo time or...... is your mustache against the wall
11/23/2009 9:26:01 PM EDT
[#5]
I voted for the blue one.
11/23/2009 9:27:17 PM EDT
[#6]
I'm ready to fo...I'm hungry. I call Taco Bell!
11/23/2009 9:28:30 PM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


Its past fo time but some of us aren't ready yet.


I thought we were all prepared here. LOL You are probably the only arfcommer that will admit that.



Still a very realistic and logical answer that I should have put on my poll.



 
11/23/2009 9:29:23 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Its past fo time but some of us aren't ready yet.


Am I supposed to follow you?

Seriously...Who goes first?...I forget!
11/23/2009 9:29:33 PM EDT
[#9]




Quoted:





Quoted:

Its past fo time but some of us aren't ready yet.


I thought we were all prepared here. LOL You are probably the only arfcommer that will admit that.



Still a very realistic and logical answer that I should have put on my poll.



It's go time when there are enough people to go with me.

11/23/2009 9:33:30 PM EDT
[#10]
Why go when they will come to you?
11/23/2009 9:34:00 PM EDT
[#11]
we need to have a FO TIME level type thing. Like the threat levels that the DHS puts out. It can be at the top of the page
11/23/2009 9:35:59 PM EDT
[#12]
What's the difference between go time and fo time?
11/23/2009 9:37:20 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
What's the difference between go time and fo time?


In one they take your Liberty, the other they take your kidney's.


ETA:  Your avatar freaks me out.
11/23/2009 9:37:48 PM EDT
[#14]
I would say that we are not yet there but there are many bad things happening around us so we need to remain vigilant. "Go time" may yet happen, and it might be soon. We don't want to be caught unprepared. I hope that it doesn't happen though as "go time" will be nowhere near as romantic as some here seem to believe.
11/23/2009 9:38:39 PM EDT
[#15]




Quoted:

What's the difference between go time and fo time?




In one they take your freedom in the othere they take your anal virginaty.
11/23/2009 9:41:05 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What's the difference between go time and fo time?


In one they take your Liberty, the other they take your kidney's.


ETA:  Your avatar freaks me out.


OK. which is which?

11/23/2009 9:43:23 PM EDT
[#17]
Go where????
11/23/2009 9:43:47 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
What's the difference between go time and fo time?


In one they take your Liberty, the other they take your kidney's.


ETA:  Your avatar freaks me out.


OK. which is which?



Go=liberty
Fo=kidneys

Edit:  Fo originated in this thread...http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=716161
11/23/2009 9:45:56 PM EDT
[#19]
Never going to be go time. Ever.
11/23/2009 9:49:14 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Never going to be go time. Ever.


You are wrong. Go time has already past. There just weren't enough real Americans left to go when it came.
11/23/2009 9:49:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Go time past us a couple decades back.  It could've been halted a lot easier when the leviathan we face now was in its infancy.  The people of the time didn't see it as go time because it wasn't that bad at the time.  Now we're faced with an enemy that we cannot beat and a population that depends on and supports than enemy, meaning their support of us would be absolutely zero.

Our frog has been well and truly boiled.
11/23/2009 9:50:16 PM EDT
[#22]
It's not bad enough to "go", "going" shouldn't be taken lightly and should be done when we've lost all liberty and recourse.
11/23/2009 9:51:29 PM EDT
[#23]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Never going to be go time. Ever.




You are wrong. Go time has already past. There just weren't enough real Americans left to go when it came.


And tell me "real American", did you "go"?



 
11/23/2009 9:54:59 PM EDT
[#24]




Quoted:



Quoted:

Its past fo time but some of us aren't ready yet.




Am I supposed to follow you?



Seriously...Who goes first?...I forget!


Whoever has the resources and fortitude to go first.



I don't have the resources, yet.

11/23/2009 10:03:00 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Never going to be go time. Ever.


You are wrong. Go time has already past. There just weren't enough real Americans left to go when it came.

And tell me "real American", did you "go"?
 


I think he fent.
11/23/2009 10:04:37 PM EDT
[#26]
Nationwide terrorist attack + zero + executive orders = well, something to think about.





I think they may hit us hard while we are at our weakest, which is now while obummer is in office.  





We will never be this weak for along time, and they know it.  Obummer
has opened many a sheeps mind, and he hasn't been in office
long....they know he won't make it to 2nd term.  
They do know he is fucking itching for something to happen.  



The time is nearing, prepare for it.  



I hope Im wrong and nothing happens, but my gut tells me otherwise.

11/23/2009 10:04:46 PM EDT
[#27]
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.


We are on a dangerous path. We let our guard down, but we still have time to fix it democratically. We're not under absolute despotism yet.
11/23/2009 10:07:28 PM EDT
[#28]
It was fo time, but then the they released CoD MW2 and fo time was delayed until all achievements are unlocked.

In my mind, no one wants to be the guy on T.V. getting arrested and labeled a crack pot. No one wants to be the guy who, if their action is spun correctly, will kill any hope for the Republicans in 2010/2012.
11/23/2009 10:12:48 PM EDT
[#29]
Fo time is 2010. November. Fo to the polls and vote out the riffraff destroying our nation. Because if Obama and the dems win the next one there's no coming back.
11/23/2009 10:18:41 PM EDT
[#30]
nvm
11/23/2009 10:19:50 PM EDT
[#31]
It's time to go.... to bed.

11/23/2009 10:34:48 PM EDT
[#32]



Quoted:



Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.




We are on a dangerous path. We let our guard down, but we still have time to fix it democratically. We're not under absolute despotism yet.


I say this, and I say this, and I say it again - and you guys never listen.




There is an order to things.





  1. Soap box: Convince others that change needs to happen in a democratic society. Speak out and be heard, and motivate others to change things politically.

  2. Ballot box: Run for office or support someone that supports your views. Make a serious effort to eject the do-nothings from your party and the shitheads from the other party that are actively trying to make America into some foreign concept.

  3. Jury box: Be like Alan Gura. Create your case that destroys existing bullshit laws with new arguments cleverly designed to turn back the attacks from the bench, which is a tactic The Enemy has used since the '60s. It's worked for them - let's give it a try.

  4. Cartridge box: All else has failed. The pols ignore the laws, ignore the vote and stay in office even though they're not elected. They ignore the bench's rejection of their corrupt ways. They seek to use police powers to suppress their political adversaries. They begin unlawful prosecution of individuals not in government who are perceived as threats.

THEN - AND ONLY THEN are you empowered to strike at the government with violence.



You'd better do it cleverly, too - and target the direct threats to your safety and liberty. NEVER ATTACK INNOCENT PEOPLE. Remember, if it's a war, strike and escape. Live to fight another day. Don't make a stand. Inspire others with your actions, but don't let them label you a "child molester," a "gun/right-wing/Christian Nut," a "criminal" or anything else, although them and their enablers will surely attempt to do so.



And remember - this is ONLY after a LONG, LONG process of NON-VIOLENT protest and activism that's failed, and the open usurping of freedoms in an unconstitutional way because the government creates a police-state where a democracy used to be.



Oh, and another thing? Be prepared to watch many, many innocent people be killed and that thirsty fucking tree to take its due in patriot blood, with little tyrant blood. Expect to be blamed for all of it. Expect a Predator drone to come along and immolate you at some point, because governments with All-Seeing-Eyes will eventually use them for nefarious purposes against their own citizens. Be close to your Creator, because sticking with something like this until victory will require insane degrees of sacrifice and faith.



So you should really get started on the first three steps IN EARNEST. If things get to Step Four: Cartridge box, we're all pretty much fucked.




 
11/23/2009 11:51:23 PM EDT
[#33]
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
11/24/2009 12:15:27 AM EDT
[#34]




Quoted:





Quoted:



Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.




We are on a dangerous path. We let our guard down, but we still have time to fix it democratically. We're not under absolute despotism yet.


I say this, and I say this, and I say it again - and you guys never listen.




There is an order to things.







  1. Soap box: Convince others that change needs to happen in a democratic society. Speak out and be heard, and motivate others to change things politically.


  2. Ballot box: Run for office or support someone that supports your views. Make a serious effort to eject the do-nothings from your party and the shitheads from the other party that are actively trying to make America into some foreign concept.


  3. Jury box: Be like Alan Gura. Create your case that destroys existing bullshit laws with new arguments cleverly designed to turn back the attacks from the bench, which is a tactic The Enemy has used since the '60s. It's worked for them - let's give it a try.


  4. Cartridge box: All else has failed. The pols ignore the laws, ignore the vote and stay in office even though they're not elected. They ignore the bench's rejection of their corrupt ways. They seek to use police powers to suppress their political adversaries. They begin unlawful prosecution of individuals not in government who are perceived as threats.

THEN - AND ONLY THEN are you empowered to strike at the government with violence.



<Snip>



Our rights are being trampled on every day. Things are only getting worse.



Our politicians do not listen to us and our judges legislate from the bench.



The time for talk has long come and gone.

11/24/2009 12:17:32 AM EDT
[#35]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyczwqRD2NI\\]
11/24/2009 12:24:53 AM EDT
[#36]
Any answer other that #2 is unacceptable from a 3 percenter standpoint.

Man up, people.
11/24/2009 3:56:42 AM EDT
[#37]
Need bettr poll
11/24/2009 3:59:15 AM EDT
[#38]




Quoted:

Need bettr poll


That and those in the mood for pie are left hanging.

11/30/2009 12:22:09 AM EDT
[#39]
So is it go time yet?
11/30/2009 12:33:07 AM EDT
[#40]



Quoted:


IBTP


This



 
11/30/2009 7:29:11 AM EDT
[#41]
BRB guys!!! I need to go tell my mom I'm coming out of the basement to find a date and make her grandbabies, oh shit, American Idol's on! Sorry guys, you'll have to go on without me!