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11/16/2009 6:03:41 PM EDT
What's the hive's recommendation for a reasonable price (i.e., not Surefire )?

For illustration purposes only (I'm assuming "Nebo" is cheap Chinese crap at $15.99, but this is what google turned up):



I'm looking for a light small enough to carry unobtrusively on, for example, a college campus, but solid enough to be useful defensively.
11/16/2009 6:04:24 PM EDT
[#1]
why not surefire?



my E2D defender kicks ass
11/16/2009 6:05:20 PM EDT
[#2]
Maglites... they make a very distinctive sound, too...
11/16/2009 6:07:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Fenix P1, goes for about $40.
11/16/2009 6:07:29 PM EDT
[#4]
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why not surefire?

my E2D defender kicks ass

Waaaaay out of my price range. There's no way something just as good can't be found for a more reasonable price.
11/16/2009 6:07:58 PM EDT
[#5]
Just get a surefire G2 in LED. Personally I could care less if the bezel has those teeth on it. It would still suck to get hit with a metal flashlight teeth or not. It looks more PC without them.





http://ee.ar15.com/ItemView.aspx?iid=37782
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Because many people are suckers for name brands.


The reason why people are willing to pay for surefire is cause the company makes a high quality product, does a lot of research, and has an amazing warranty policy. Surefire lights are mounted on almost every US LEO and soldier's firearm.





 
11/16/2009 6:08:46 PM EDT
[#6]
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Fenix P1, goes for about $40.

Looks awesome, but doesn't have an aggressive face.

EDIT to add the proper face for the Surefire fanboys.
11/16/2009 6:09:18 PM EDT
[#7]
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Maglites... they make a very distinctive sound, too...


Yes, I have heard this....I mean, I have heard that they do this.

11/16/2009 6:09:48 PM EDT
[#8]
well if you prefer to support the PLA, go ahead

11/16/2009 6:10:04 PM EDT
[#9]
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why not surefire?

my E2D defender kicks ass

Waaaaay out of my price range. There's no way something just as good can't be found for a more reasonable price.


If there was something out there that was just as good, then why would anyone still buy Surefire?
11/16/2009 6:10:53 PM EDT
[#10]
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why not surefire?

my E2D defender kicks ass

Waaaaay out of my price range. There's no way something just as good can't be found for a more reasonable price.


If there was something out there that was just as good, then why would anyone still buy Surefire?

Because many people are suckers for name brands.
11/16/2009 6:11:49 PM EDT
[#11]
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Fenix P1, goes for about $40.

Looks awesome, but doesn't have an aggressive face.


Your priorities are out of line.  An aggressive face??

Do you also want it to be black, because it's more intimidating?
11/16/2009 6:12:41 PM EDT
[#12]
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why not surefire?

my E2D defender kicks ass

Waaaaay out of my price range. There's no way something just as good can't be found for a more reasonable price.


If there was something out there that was just as good, then why would anyone still buy Surefire?

Because many people are suckers for name brands.


I agree, but, how did that name-brand come to prominence in the first place?
11/16/2009 6:12:49 PM EDT
[#13]
I just picked up a Fenix TK11 R2.  Love it so far.
11/16/2009 6:13:05 PM EDT
[#14]





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Maglites... they make a very distinctive sound, too...




I lol'd.





 
11/16/2009 6:13:10 PM EDT
[#15]




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Maglites... they make a very distinctive sound, too...




Yes, I have heard this....I mean, I have heard that they do this.






How would you describe the sound it makes? Is it sort of a "THUD"?

11/16/2009 6:13:25 PM EDT
[#16]
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why not surefire?

my E2D defender kicks ass

Waaaaay out of my price range. There's no way something just as good can't be found for a more reasonable price.


If there was something out there that was just as good, then why would anyone still buy Surefire?

Because many people are suckers for name brands.


Perhaps, but what out there is just as good but for cheaper and American Made???


11/16/2009 6:13:46 PM EDT
[#17]
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Fenix P1, goes for about $40.

Looks awesome, but doesn't have an aggressive face.


Your priorities are out of line.  An aggressive face??

Do you also want it to be black, because it's more intimidating?

Yeah! That's it!

11/16/2009 6:13:58 PM EDT
[#18]
Some of us buy Surefire because:

1. Made in USA
2. Greatly support US Mil/LE personnel
3. Well made
4. Great CS
5. Great warranty
11/16/2009 6:14:51 PM EDT
[#19]
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why not surefire?

my E2D defender kicks ass


so does mine and they stand by their product 110%

you get what you pay for...
11/16/2009 6:16:08 PM EDT
[#20]
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why not surefire?

my E2D defender kicks ass

Waaaaay out of my price range. There's no way something just as good can't be found for a more reasonable price.


If there was something out there that was just as good, then why would anyone still buy Surefire?

Because many people are suckers for name brands.


Perhaps, but what out there is just as good but for cheaper and American Made???



I don't know, that's why I started this thread.

This is not one of my criteria.
11/16/2009 6:17:37 PM EDT
[#21]
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why not surefire?

my E2D defender kicks ass

Waaaaay out of my price range. There's no way something just as good can't be found for a more reasonable price.


If there was something out there that was just as good, then why would anyone still buy Surefire?

Because many people are suckers for name brands.


I agree, but, how did that name-brand come to prominence in the first place?


Let me call the Bose marketing department and get back to you.

11/16/2009 6:18:49 PM EDT
[#22]



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Some of us buy Surefire because:



1. Made in USA-check

2. Greatly support US Mil/LE personnel-check

3. Well made-check

4. Great CS-check

5. Great warranty-check


Shit I lost a tailcap for my G2L I called them up to pay for a replacement, they just sent me a new one for free, I had it two days later.

 
11/16/2009 6:19:17 PM EDT
[#23]
There are 1000's of chicom junk out there for cheap, and yeah most are brighter than surefire's, and cost less than half the price. But there IS a reason for that. You can find a Surefire G2 for like $38 and buy one of these

http://www.operationparts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=GGG-1185&click=2
11/16/2009 6:19:34 PM EDT
[#24]
Guys-  Seriously....he needs an aggressive face.
11/16/2009 6:22:02 PM EDT
[#25]
You seem the type that probably has a Dremel handy for such operations as cheap barrel fluting, perhaps you could get a 3 watt Chicom LED and aggressify the bezel with a tulip shaped green stone.
11/16/2009 6:25:45 PM EDT
[#26]
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Guys-  Seriously....he needs an aggressive face.

Ooooh, good suggestion! I've added that smily above to help illustrate. Thanks!
11/16/2009 6:27:41 PM EDT
[#27]
What is the point of those teeth anyway?
11/16/2009 6:33:28 PM EDT
[#28]
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Maglites... they make a very distinctive sound, too...

I lol'd. When my buddy was stationed at Oceanside he said they would go down sometimes and work with the border patrol and during the conversation I heard the word RUH ROH several times.

I finally asked him what RUH ROH was and he replied that it's the sound a Maglite makes when you TICKLE an illegal across the RUH ROH SOME MO with it.
 


Might wanna edit that. I can't recall exactly what happened last time it was spelled out like that, but it was not good I don't think.
11/16/2009 6:35:23 PM EDT
[#29]
The purpose of a fleshlight is for illumination, not hitting things. But if you must have an "aggressive face" look into the Pentagonlight Porcupine and see if there is still one floating around out there.
11/16/2009 6:37:27 PM EDT
[#30]
here's one I just bought ,  32 bucks OTD  , Dorcy
11/16/2009 6:38:39 PM EDT
[#31]
I carry a 6P LED Defender. At about 110 bucks its a bit of money, but by god that thing will not fail!


You will get a flashlight that WILL last a lifetime. If its for potential self defense, whats your life worth?
11/16/2009 6:42:56 PM EDT
[#32]
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why not surefire?

my E2D defender kicks ass

Waaaaay out of my price range. There's no way something just as good can't be found for a more reasonable price.


If there was something out there that was just as good, then why would anyone still buy Surefire?

Because many people are suckers for name brands.


Perhaps, but what out there is just as good but for cheaper and American Made???



I don't know, that's why I started this thread.

This is not one of my criteria.



Perhaps it should be.
11/16/2009 6:44:49 PM EDT
[#33]
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The purpose of a fleshlight is for illumination, not hitting things. But if you must have an "aggressive face" look into the Pentagonlight Porcupine and see if there is still one floating around out there.






11/16/2009 6:47:02 PM EDT
[#34]
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why not surefire?

my E2D defender kicks ass

Waaaaay out of my price range. There's no way something just as good can't be found for a more reasonable price.


If there was something out there that was just as good, then why would anyone still buy Surefire?


name
11/16/2009 6:48:25 PM EDT
[#35]
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why not surefire?

my E2D defender kicks ass

Waaaaay out of my price range. There's no way something just as good can't be found for a more reasonable price.


If there was something out there that was just as good, then why would anyone still buy Surefire?

Because many people are suckers for name brands.


Perhaps, but what out there is just as good but for cheaper and American Made???



I don't know, that's why I started this thread.

This is not one of my criteria.



Perhaps it should be.

Well, it's not.
11/16/2009 6:48:49 PM EDT
[#36]
Go to http://dealextreme.com. They have a ton of SureFire clones for cheap. I have one and it's very bright, but it doesn't feel like a SureFire.

They ship from Hong Kong, so it takes a long time.
11/16/2009 6:49:23 PM EDT
[#37]
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The purpose of a fleshlight is for illumination, not hitting things. But if you must have an "aggressive face" look into the Pentagonlight Porcupine and see if there is still one floating around out there.








11/16/2009 6:56:54 PM EDT
[#38]
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why not surefire?

my E2D defender kicks ass

Waaaaay out of my price range. There's no way something just as good can't be found for a more reasonable price.


You can buy a Surefire for around $35. If that's out of your price range, you have bigger problems than buying a flashlight.
11/16/2009 7:02:34 PM EDT
[#39]
Send me $10 and this bad boy is yours.

11/16/2009 7:05:06 PM EDT
[#40]
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Send me $10 and this bad boy is yours.

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3655/dscn0998f.jpg


 
11/16/2009 7:07:06 PM EDT
[#41]
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The purpose of a fleshlight is for illumination, not hitting things. But if you must have an "aggressive face" look into the Pentagonlight Porcupine and see if there is still one floating around out there.










Is RIGHT! OMG!!

11/16/2009 7:07:37 PM EDT
[#42]
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Send me $10 and this bad boy is yours.

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3655/dscn0998f.jpg

Can I get that model, but with the tactical can opener facing outward?
11/16/2009 7:09:59 PM EDT
[#43]
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Send me $10 and this bad boy is yours.

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3655/dscn0998f.jpg

Can I get that model, but with the tactical can opener facing outward?


I'd like mine with a tacticool digital desert pattern please.

11/16/2009 7:10:50 PM EDT
[#44]
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why not surefire?

my E2D defender kicks ass

Waaaaay out of my price range. There's no way something just as good can't be found for a more reasonable price.


If there was something out there that was just as good, then why would anyone still buy Surefire?

Because many people are suckers for name brands.


I agree, but, how did that name-brand come to prominence in the first place?


Let me call the Bose marketing department and get back to you.



I think that the argument could be made that the Bose name is not nearly as well regarded amongst professionals who use audio equipment in their jobs as the Surefire name is regarded amongst professionals who use flashlights for their jobs.
11/16/2009 7:11:45 PM EDT
[#45]



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Send me $10 and this bad boy is yours.



http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3655/dscn0998f.jpg



Genius.



 
11/16/2009 7:15:56 PM EDT
[#46]
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The purpose of a fleshlight is for illumination, not hitting things. But if you must have an "aggressive face" look into the Pentagonlight Porcupine and see if there is still one floating around out there.








He obviously means "illumination" as in "enlightenment." Surely you won't dispute the utility of the mighty fleshlight for that purpose?
11/16/2009 7:20:40 PM EDT
[#47]
Surefire



/thread



Buy quality, cry once.
11/16/2009 7:24:20 PM EDT
[#48]
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Surefire

/thread

Buy quality, cry once.


Not impressed by them, I don't care how many 'operators' carry them.  I've had two and they've gone TU.  Last flashlight I bought cost 3 bucks and change and the fucker still works.  

11/16/2009 7:30:51 PM EDT
[#49]
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Surefire

/thread

Buy quality, cry once.


Not impressed by them, I don't care how many 'operators' carry them.  I've had two and they've gone TU.  Last flashlight I bought cost 3 bucks and change and the fucker still works.  




Warranty????  What happened?  Didn't Surefire give you new ones or at least fix the old ones?

11/16/2009 7:33:26 PM EDT
[#50]
had a dorcy or whatever it is. bought a surefire 6p with the tnvc drop in. +1 for surefire.
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