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AR15.COM
9/3/2009 8:01:29 PM EDT
http://www.newsnet5.com/health/20703731/detail.html


 
9/3/2009 8:03:13 PM EDT
[#1]
bet he's got lawyers knocking his door down.
9/3/2009 8:16:49 PM EDT
[#2]
Some one is gonna get paid....
Wtf is wrong with that cop,he is a complete idiot and should lose his badge.Also the judge that signed that warrant should get a talking to.Why would you issue a warrant if the guy passed the breathaliser.I bet if he blew over and tried to say the machine was in correct it would not have mattered one bit.
9/3/2009 8:20:11 PM EDT
[#3]
Police said they obtained a warrant.  Just curious as to what the warrant said.  In California, no warrant needed.  I was at County Hospital with a Juvie on PCP.  The doctor ordered a urine test and the juvie was so out of it that the nursing staff performed a forced catheterization.  The only one I've witnessed and that was 25 years ago.  He kind of snapped out of the crazy mood he was in when they inserted the catheter.  After they got the urine sample, he went back to acting crazy.  



As for this guy, I don't know why a forced catheterization was needed when they had a blood sample.  Unless there is something else to the story, I would think this guy is going to have some extra cash in the near future.

9/3/2009 8:23:11 PM EDT
[#4]
I hope he bankrupts the municipality and then sues the officer as an individual for violation of his civil rights.  A breathalyzer AND blood test showed under the limit, so they force a tube down his cock?  Fuck that!
9/3/2009 8:24:51 PM EDT
[#5]
America...........it was damn good to know you.

9/3/2009 8:29:10 PM EDT
[#6]
Catheters HURT.
9/3/2009 8:32:01 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Catheters HURT.


Yes they do, and there is also a risk of infection as well as tearing some rather sensitive tissue!
9/3/2009 8:35:40 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Some one is gonna get paid....
Wtf is wrong with that cop,he is a complete idiot and should lose his badge.Also the judge that signed that warrant should get a talking to.Why would you issue a warrant if the guy passed the breathaliser.I bet if he blew over and tried to say the machine was in correct it would not have mattered one bit.


The urinalysis allows the officers to see whether he  is under the influence of drugs besides alcohol. While Indiana requires the officer to offer a choice to the suspect, Indiana law also allows the police to force samples (by blood, urine, or breathalyzer). It's also important to remember that while the per se BAC to be charged with DUI in Indiana, a person can be charged in Indiana for a BAC as low as .05.

There is a really important question that article, nor any of the posts, asked. Did he resist giving or refuse to give a urin or blood sample? If so, how?  What did his BAC register on the breathalyzer?
9/3/2009 8:36:03 PM EDT
[#9]
Only thing I can think of is maybe the cops suspected he was high on some kind of drugs?  Still,  I don't believe that justified what they did, as the drugged driving laws are a crapshoot anyway.  In most US jurisdictions, since "drugs" are illegal, a person found to have marijuana in their system, even if they smoked last week, is still considered DUI.  I can't stand stoners but I still believe in punishing someone for what they've done not because of their choice of intoxicant.  Catching them with drugs or high in public is one thing, charging them with DUI for something they did days ago is completely different.  I say "drugs,"  because someone legally prescribed anxiety meds or painkillers can still knowingly risk peoples lives driving intoxicated and dodge prosecution simply because there are no BAC style standards for intoxication, and they were legally prescribed them.  I believe it was kennedy or one of the other demtards who crashed into a barrier outside the capital a few years ago doing just such a thing?  My crystal ball prediction says....  A chimp in a cheap suit for a lawyer could win the sympathy of 99% of all possible combos of 12 people, taken at random from the entire damn country.  I see lots of cash and change of scenery in this guys future.
9/3/2009 8:38:17 PM EDT
[#10]

All I can say to that is:
Knife hand to the trachea of the med person approaching my junk with an unauthorized catheter.  That there is one of those do or die stands that I would have to take.
9/3/2009 9:07:43 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:

All I can say to that is:
Knife hand to the trachea of the med person approaching my junk with an unauthorized catheter.  That there is one of those do or die stands that I would have to take.


This^

Who would not fight this off with survival adrenalin dump ferocity?
9/4/2009 8:32:42 PM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:



Quoted:






All I can say to that is:

Knife hand to the trachea of the med person approaching my junk with an unauthorized catheter.  That there is one of those do or die stands that I would have to take.




This^



Who would not fight this off with survival adrenalin dump ferocity?
The one I observed couldn't fight back as he was restrained to the bed.  Obviously anyone would fight to keep someone from forcibly shoving a tube into your junk.





 
9/4/2009 8:44:02 PM EDT
[#13]



It's a DUI not a murder case. If it was MVA with serious injury or death I could see a blood draw if you think a combined alcohol and drugs. Otherwise do your best and move on. There's another one down the road.
9/8/2009 4:11:48 AM EDT
[#14]
As far as I'm concerned,  every person has sovereign rights to control what goes into his body.  No needles to withdraw blood, no intrusive examinations, no catheters, without consent.





If you lose that right with your own body,  what rights DO you have?   None, I guess.





Rights are what you fight for.  Anything else is just privelege, to be granted or taken away at the whim of your masters.





CJ


9/8/2009 4:13:38 AM EDT
[#15]
Must collect State's evidence at all costs.
9/8/2009 4:23:16 AM EDT
[#16]
Oink.
9/8/2009 4:26:25 AM EDT
[#17]



Quoted:


Must collect State's evidence at all costs.


When they started considering it destruction of evidence, instead of a natural bodily process, a bad precedence was set.



 
9/8/2009 4:47:27 AM EDT
[#18]
Wonder if the guy violated the POS rule.

A friend of mine used to work the loading dock for Home Grocer. He got sent on ride alongs with some of the drivers now and then. One of the drivers told him a story about how he had been training to get into law enforcement, but quit in disgust after learning about the POS Rule. He was on a ride along with a local cop, the officer watched a clunker drive by and lit him up. The student asked him why he was pulling this guy over, the response was the POS Rule. The student didn't understand, the officer explained that his car was a Piece Of Shit, and that they would find out why he pulled him over after he talked to the driver. The officer's logic was that since the guy drove a piece of shit car he was most likely breaking the law one way or another. at the least the guy was driving suspended, without insurance, or expired tags/registration or had an outstanding warrant. At best he was drunk/high, a prohibited possessor with a weapon, or trafficking drugs.