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8/7/2009 7:59:16 AM EDT
The card:

BJ Penn Vs. Kenny Florian

Anderson Silva Vs. Forrest Griffin

Amir Sadollah Vs. Johny Hendricks

Kendall Grove Vs. Ricardo Almeida

Josh Neer Vs. Kurt Pellegrino

Shane Nelson Vs. Aaron Riley

Tamdan McCrory Vs. John Howard

Thales Leites Vs. Alessio Sakara

Matthew Riddle Vs. Dan Cramer

George Sotiropoulos Vs. George Roop

Jesse Lennox Vs. Danillo Villefort




My predictions:

If BJ Penn doesn't take this fight seriously (which he didn't when he fought GSP) he's going to get cut up by Florian's razor-sharp elbows.

I also think Anderson Silva has a good chance against Griffin, even though Forrest is one of my favorite fighters.
8/7/2009 8:04:43 AM EDT
[#1]
im looking forward to it.

decent fight card.
8/7/2009 8:16:28 AM EDT
[#2]
I'll be there in person, bitches.  
8/7/2009 8:20:19 AM EDT
[#3]
The man cave has already been prepped. I think saying Anderson has a good chance against Forrest is an understatement. Forrest said in an interview he just wants to survive lol. I like him & I'll be pulling for him but I'm not sure I could bet on Forrest for this one. You just never know with Griffin which fighter is going to show up.
8/7/2009 8:23:04 AM EDT
[#4]
I love Forrest, but, I think he's gonna lose this one.
BJ is in trouble, Kenny is my favorite fighter.
8/7/2009 8:42:27 AM EDT
[#5]
what pisses me off is that if you watch it by pay per view, you only get to see about 5 fights.  Thats BS.   You should be able to see all of them.  WTF.
8/7/2009 8:45:23 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
The man cave has already been prepped. I think saying Anderson has a good chance against Forrest is an understatement. Forrest said in an interview he just wants to survive lol. I like him & I'll be pulling for him but I'm not sure I could bet on Forrest for this one. You just never know with Griffin which fighter is going to show up.


Great! Griffen just wants to survive and Silva will be doing his best non aggressive performance. Should be exciting.
8/7/2009 8:51:29 AM EDT
[#7]
BJ
Forrest
Amir
Kendall

8/7/2009 9:07:26 AM EDT
[#8]
I'd like to see Penn win, but Florian is a very talented fighter. BJ doesn't look like he always brings his A game.

I can't afford it on tv, so I'm hoping to get a seat at one of the local bars that carries the fight.
8/7/2009 9:15:01 AM EDT
[#9]
As long as BJ trained hard, there is almost no way that Kenny will beat him.  
-BJ punches like a welterweight > Kenny lacks one punch knockout power
-BJ has never lost to a cut, and I don't even think he has been cut in his 19 fights.
-BJ's wrestling is much better than Kenny's
-BJ's ground game is light-years ahead of Florian's.  There is a reason they call him "The Prodigy"
-The one thing Kenny does better than BJ is kick, but mainly because BJ chooses not to kick.

BUT, there is always the gas tank factor with BJ.  It will all come down to how hard he trained for this fight.
8/7/2009 9:51:56 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
As long as BJ trained hard, there is almost no way that Kenny will beat him.  
-BJ punches like a welterweight > Kenny lacks one punch knockout power
-BJ has never lost to a cut, and I don't even think he has been cut in his 19 fights.
-BJ's wrestling is much better than Kenny's
-BJ's ground game is light-years ahead of Florian's.  There is a reason they call him "The Prodigy"
-The one thing Kenny does better than BJ is kick, but mainly because BJ chooses not to kick.

BUT, there is always the gas tank factor with BJ.  It will all come down to how hard he trained for this fight.


I don't know about "light years", Florian is a black belt in BJJ and has submitted many fighters.

Also, Penn sure looked bloody to me in the third round of the GSP fight.

Florian is famous for making people bleed with his elbows.
8/7/2009 9:55:49 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
BJ
Forrest
Amir
Kendall



Concur/hope. Add Neer in there also, he is a good fighter.



I think Anderson/Forrest fight will be awesome. Forrest doesn't give up easily and Anderson needs somebody talented to make him push the pace. If Anderson is lackadaisical about this, I think Forrest will get him. But we shall see....
8/7/2009 10:01:36 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
BJ
Forrest
Amir
Kendall



Concur/hope. Add Neer in there also, he is a good fighter.



I think Anderson/Forrest fight will be awesome. Forrest doesn't give up easily and Anderson needs somebody talented to make him push the pace. If Anderson is lackadaisical about this, I think Forrest will get him. But we shall see....


SILVA IS GOING TO DESTROY HIM!!!
8/7/2009 10:06:44 AM EDT
[#13]
Silva for the win
BJ will get cut up but I have no pick for this one.

I have to Tivo it as I'll be gone on vacation.
8/7/2009 10:07:29 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
As long as BJ trained hard, there is almost no way that Kenny will beat him.  
-BJ punches like a welterweight > Kenny lacks one punch knockout power
-BJ has never lost to a cut, and I don't even think he has been cut in his 19 fights.
-BJ's wrestling is much better than Kenny's
-BJ's ground game is light-years ahead of Florian's.  There is a reason they call him "The Prodigy"
-The one thing Kenny does better than BJ is kick, but mainly because BJ chooses not to kick.

BUT, there is always the gas tank factor with BJ.  It will all come down to how hard he trained for this fight.


I don't know about "light years", Florian is a black belt in BJJ and has submitted many fighters.

Also, Penn sure looked bloody to me in the third round of the GSP fight.

Florian is famous for making people bleed with his elbows.


I forgot about GSP/Penn II, he did get bloodied up a lot, but BJ is still notoriously hard to cut.  Even when Hughes had him in a crucifix and was smashing his face he did not get cut up.


All black belts are not created equal.  Kenny is very good on  the ground, but BJ is one of the best regardless of weight class.  Watch some of BJ's Ju Jitsu matches on Youtube.  He can pull off some sick moves.

Scott Bieri articulated exactly how I think this fight will go down. .


Scott Bieri:  Both of these guys serve as examples of the evolution of this sport, [with] good skill sets in all areas. And Florian gets my vote for the most improved fighter; his run to this point has been amazing. Kenny can decision B.J. with his movement and striking. But the likely outcome is that Penn gets on top, passes to half guard, underhooks the pass side (his head is a counter balance on the mount side), stuffs the already smashed butterfly hook and steps to mount. From here, B.J. finishes fights. No one can seem to duplicate or defend this. Penn wins.
8/7/2009 10:08:35 AM EDT
[#15]
Come on Forrest Griffin...
8/7/2009 10:10:18 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I'll be there in person, bitches.  


How much were your tickets?

I would like to be there in person some day.

8/7/2009 10:14:11 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
BJ
Forrest
Amir
Kendall



Concur/hope. Add Neer in there also, he is a good fighter.



I think Anderson/Forrest fight will be awesome. Forrest doesn't give up easily and Anderson needs somebody talented to make him push the pace. If Anderson is lackadaisical about this, I think Forrest will get him. But we shall see....


I laugh every time I see Neer.  His nickname around these parts is "tramp stamp."

He is a good fighter, but that tattoo is terrible.  Almost as bad as "Cock Chestnar" (Lesnar)
8/7/2009 10:19:55 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
The man cave has already been prepped. I think saying Anderson has a good chance against Forrest is an understatement. Forrest said in an interview he just wants to survive lol. I like him & I'll be pulling for him but I'm not sure I could bet on Forrest for this one. You just never know with Griffin which fighter is going to show up.


If Griffin said that he has already lost.
8/7/2009 10:23:55 AM EDT
[#19]
Lets see if it lets me hotlink...

Here is the result of some Florian elbow strikes on Joe Lauzon.  notice where these cuts are?

8/7/2009 10:24:59 AM EDT
[#20]
im gonna take Lesnar over Fedor......

 
8/7/2009 10:31:51 AM EDT
[#21]
I don't recognize many names on that card, which could be a good thing.
8/7/2009 10:36:20 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I don't recognize many names on that card, which could be a good thing.


Got to Sherdog and type their names into the fight finder to look at their records if you want.
8/7/2009 10:45:45 AM EDT
[#23]
I hope Griffin beats Silva's ass.

He fought like a pussy on his last few fights.
8/7/2009 10:47:16 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
BJ
Forrest
Amir
Kendall



Concur/hope. Add Neer in there also, he is a good fighter.



I think Anderson/Forrest fight will be awesome. Forrest doesn't give up easily and Anderson needs somebody talented to make him push the pace. If Anderson is lackadaisical about this, I think Forrest will get him. But we shall see....


SILVA IS GOING TO DESTROY HIM!!!


I think Anderson can - but if he fights like he has in his last few (like a hobo), I think (hope) Forrest will capitalize.

I do think it will be a good fight, and hopefully Forrest's perseverance will bring out the true talent in Anderson (seen against Franklin, Leiben, and the other guy where he grabbed his leg in mid-kick and KO'd him).

After Anderson's last few fights, I just can't root for him (even thought he is a more talented fighter).
8/7/2009 10:48:15 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
BJ
Forrest
Amir
Kendall



Concur/hope. Add Neer in there also, he is a good fighter.



I think Anderson/Forrest fight will be awesome. Forrest doesn't give up easily and Anderson needs somebody talented to make him push the pace. If Anderson is lackadaisical about this, I think Forrest will get him. But we shall see....


I laugh every time I see Neer.  His nickname around these parts is "tramp stamp."

He is a good fighter, but that tattoo is terrible.  Almost as bad as "Cock Chestnar" (Lesnar)


Oh shit that is him isn't it! We make fun of him too for that. He is a good fighter though, and I would never make fun of him to his face.
8/7/2009 10:55:29 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I don't recognize many names on that card, which could be a good thing.


Got to Sherdog and type their names into the fight finder to look at their records if you want.


I am sure they are good for it to be televised. I like that I don't recognize them, I get bored of watching the same fighters over and over.
8/7/2009 10:56:52 AM EDT
[#27]


I see no way Forrest can beat Anderson. This reminds me of Hendo vs Bisping.

Those of you going on about his last two fights don't get that Anderson was simply being risk averse since what he saw was easy wins. Granted thats something more seen in boxing than MMA. Where you are expected to leave it all in the ring. But that should say nothing about his fighting ability.
8/7/2009 10:59:07 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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I don't recognize many names on that card, which could be a good thing.


Got to Sherdog and type their names into the fight finder to look at their records if you want.


I am sure they are good for it to be televised. I like that I don't recognize them, I get bored of watching the same fighters over and over.


Agreed.

It is cool to see where some of these fighter come from.  Sometimes the UFC will sign a guy nobody has ever heard of but he has 20 fights.
8/7/2009 11:07:11 AM EDT
[#29]



the silva griffin fight will be good. griffin is going to lose, but he is going to test silva like he hasn't been tested yet; he will walk into and through anything silva's got and make him brawl. in the end silva's technique will take it though.


8/7/2009 11:11:18 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
BJ
Forrest
Amir
Kendall



Concur/hope. Add Neer in there also, he is a good fighter.



I think Anderson/Forrest fight will be awesome. Forrest doesn't give up easily and Anderson needs somebody talented to make him push the pace. If Anderson is lackadaisical about this, I think Forrest will get him. But we shall see....


SILVA IS GOING TO DESTROY HIM!!!


Yup.

Depending on how it ends, this may be the last time you see a "prime" Forrest Griffin
8/7/2009 11:22:47 AM EDT
[#31]
I think BJ will win, even though I really want to see Florian deliver an ass beating. And silva will put Griffin in the hurt locker.



edited:  and I just thought I'd add... Kenny Florian is one of my two or three favorite fighters, so I hope he wins.  Even if he IS from Boston.



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8/7/2009 11:28:18 AM EDT
[#32]
If BJ is in shape, very, very few can touch him.
8/7/2009 11:45:54 AM EDT
[#33]
I really like Kenny Florian. A true mixed martial artist.

Not for sure what a "prime" F. Griffen is, but even if he gets destroyed by Silva you'll still see plenty of Griffen. He's a good face for the UFC and zuffa knows it.

Florian via decision
Silva via TKO 3rd rnd.



8/7/2009 11:59:38 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
BJ
Forrest
Amir
Kendall



Concur/hope. Add Neer in there also, he is a good fighter.



I think Anderson/Forrest fight will be awesome. Forrest doesn't give up easily and Anderson needs somebody talented to make him push the pace. If Anderson is lackadaisical about this, I think Forrest will get him. But we shall see....


SILVA IS GOING TO DESTROY HIM!!!


I think Anderson can - but if he fights like he has in his last few (like a hobo), I think (hope) Forrest will capitalize.

I do think it will be a good fight, and hopefully Forrest's perseverance will bring out the true talent in Anderson (seen against Franklin, Leiben, and the other guy where he grabbed his leg in mid-kick and KO'd him).

After Anderson's last few fights, I just can't root for him (even thought he is a more talented fighter).


i would like to see forest win, but in reality silva has way better ground game and striking, and KO potential. Forest lacks in all of these areas compared to silva, plus he alot slower and less hard hitting. I believe forest has only had 2 KO in his career. Some im expecting probably go to the 3rd round or so, maybe fourth.
8/7/2009 12:02:45 PM EDT
[#35]
The only fight in this card I'm interested in seeing is Forrest and Anderson.  BJ is a whiney little bitch.
8/7/2009 12:05:02 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
BJ
Forrest
Amir
Kendall



Concur/hope. Add Neer in there also, he is a good fighter.



I think Anderson/Forrest fight will be awesome. Forrest doesn't give up easily and Anderson needs somebody talented to make him push the pace. If Anderson is lackadaisical about this, I think Forrest will get him. But we shall see....


SILVA IS GOING TO DESTROY HIM!!!


I think Anderson can - but if he fights like he has in his last few (like a hobo), I think (hope) Forrest will capitalize.

I do think it will be a good fight, and hopefully Forrest's perseverance will bring out the true talent in Anderson (seen against Franklin, Leiben, and the other guy where he grabbed his leg in mid-kick and KO'd him).

After Anderson's last few fights, I just can't root for him (even thought he is a more talented fighter).


i would like to see forest win, but in reality silva has way better ground game and striking, and KO potential. Forest lacks in all of these areas compared to silva, plus he alot slower and less hard hitting. I believe forest has only had 2 KO in his career. Some im expecting probably go to the 3rd round or so, maybe fourth.


Forrest is no slouch on the ground, he just prefers to strike.

You don't see his ground game a lot, because he's good at thwarting any take down attempts. Even Tito had trouble taking him down, and Tito is about as one-dimensional as you can get.

Don't forget that Forrest submitted Shogun Rua, no one thought that fight would end that way.

I still think Silva is going to win though.
8/7/2009 12:06:11 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
If BJ is in shape, very, very few can touch him.




http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/penn-ripped-yesterdays-photo-thx-tracy-lee-1028386/
8/7/2009 12:18:21 PM EDT
[#38]
I am really wanting to see Forrest win and Silva lose.  It is time someone brought Silva down a notch.  The past few fights he didn't even try, and on his back he gets all passive and shit, like the women who come from north of the Mason-Dixon line during sex.  Forrest is somewhat of a hero to me, second only to Matt Hughs, in terms of determination.  This won't be the first fight Forrest got involved in where everyone thought he'd lose and he proved them wrong.
8/7/2009 1:35:09 PM EDT
[#39]
RUN FORREST!!!!!
8/7/2009 1:41:41 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
I am really wanting to see Forrest win and Silva lose.  It is time someone brought Silva down a notch.  The past few fights he didn't even try, and on his back he gets all passive and shit, like the women who come from north of the Mason-Dixon line during sex. Forrest is somewhat of a hero to me, second only to Matt Hughs, in terms of determination.  This won't be the first fight Forrest got involved in where everyone thought he'd lose and he proved them wrong.


8/7/2009 3:02:39 PM EDT
[#41]
I hate PENN; he came out saying that he believes GSP uses steriods.. what a loser... I hope florian takes his belt.
8/7/2009 3:08:47 PM EDT
[#42]
Forrest is one of those fighters I perennially underestimate. I think Silva will beat him, but Forrest will make him work for it. I also concur with the person above who said that, depending how it ends, this might be the last "prime" Forrest we get to see. He's getting a bit punchy. Listen to him talk, and compare it to when he was on TUF. That always happens to the cementhead fighters.
8/7/2009 3:09:36 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
I am really wanting to see Forrest win and Silva lose.  It is time someone brought Silva down a notch.  The past few fights he didn't even try, and on his back he gets all passive and shit, like the women who come from north of the Mason-Dixon line during sex.  Forrest is somewhat of a hero to me, second only to Matt Hughs, in terms of determination.  This won't be the first fight Forrest got involved in where everyone thought he'd lose and he proved them wrong.


you've been having sex with the wrong Northern women
8/7/2009 3:15:02 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
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The man cave has already been prepped. I think saying Anderson has a good chance against Forrest is an understatement. Forrest said in an interview he just wants to survive lol. I like him & I'll be pulling for him but I'm not sure I could bet on Forrest for this one. You just never know with Griffin which fighter is going to show up.


If Griffin said that he has already lost.



He always makes remarks like that,ever since replying that he trained for the TUF final with Bonner by  "watching a lot of quality TV".He's the anti-shit talker.


8/7/2009 3:36:31 PM EDT
[#45]



Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:

The man cave has already been prepped. I think saying Anderson has a good chance against Forrest is an understatement. Forrest said in an interview he just wants to survive lol. I like him & I'll be pulling for him but I'm not sure I could bet on Forrest for this one. You just never know with Griffin which fighter is going to show up.




If Griffin said that he has already lost.






He always makes remarks like that,ever since replying that he trained for the TUF final with Bonner by  "watching a lot of quality TV".He's the anti-shit talker.







This is very true.



 
8/7/2009 3:49:31 PM EDT
[#46]
Hope Forrest and Florian win.

8/7/2009 3:50:58 PM EDT
[#47]
UFC is the new WWF


discuss
8/7/2009 3:53:16 PM EDT
[#48]
Griffin
BJ
Neer
Grove
8/7/2009 3:58:01 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
UFC is the new WWF


discuss


Your uneducated...

discuss.
8/7/2009 4:03:41 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Quoted:
UFC is the new WWF


discuss


Your uneducated...

discuss.


LOL
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