Posted: 7/20/2009 6:00:23 AM EDT
| I am looking at the Strider knives. I need a good reliable and tough knife that can handle EDC and rough use for a long time. I have never spent $400 on a folder before and when I do I would like to get a good one. I am looking at the AR model right now. Does anyone have any experience with strider knives? |
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IMHO Striders are over sized sharpened pry bars (or at least everyone i have owned or handled). unless you are using your knife to pry open cars on a daily basis you would be much better served with a more traditional design, if you want a tough use knife nothing is stronger then a fixed blade.
ETA: I have a couple that I bought because I know that rabid fan boys will pay top dollar for discontinued versions, they are investments, not users. 
ETA 2: Mick Strider is an asshole, he lies about his military service and is a felon. |
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I am not LEO or Military and have never played that part on tv. IMHO there is no need to pay $400 for a folder or fixed blade knife. Also do you really want to use that knife for everything that you are going to be using it for in the field? That is everything from cleaning your fingernails to probing the ground for IED wires?
Check out Cold steel, CRKT, or Benchmade (may favorite) for reasonable priced hard use knives. Also consider what you are going to use to sharpen that knife with. You don't want to be in country and realize that you don't have a sharpening tool with you. Good luck |
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IMHO Striders are over sized sharpened pry bars (or at least everyone i have owned or handled). unless you are using your knife to pry open cars on a daily basis you would be much better served with a more traditional design, if you want a tough use knife nothing is stronger then a fixed blade. ETA: I have a couple that I bought because I know that rabid fan boys will pay top dollar for discontinued versions, they are investments, not users.
ETA 2: Mick Strider is an asshole, he lies about his military service and is a felon. Totally agree Strider is a knife that tries to be what it really isn't and that is a fixed blade. For EDC, Kershaw, Spyderco and other production knives are probably better choices. I wouldn't want to lug around a big ass folder all day. Don't get me wrong I have a Strider and it is an incredible knife. I don't have the model you are asking about but I am fully confident in saying if it is a Strider it will be a good knife. I collect knives and my daily is a William Henry Attache' carbon fiber tiny lil fella but pretty expensive especially for a lil under 3 inch blade. For opening stuff and maybe last ditch protection it is fully useful. Spend sometime looking at less monstrous knvies. Someday you will set that puppy down and someone will walk off with it. Guaranteed. |
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I am looking at the Strider knives. I need a good reliable and tough knife that can handle EDC and rough use for a long time. I have never spent $400 on a folder before and when I do I would like to get a good one. I am looking at the AR model right now. Does anyone have any experience with strider knives? Had a Strider SNG spearpoint. Got an offer for it I couldn't refuse and sold it. Decide if you're actually going to use a $400 folder roughly. I've got a $500 Crusader Forge Metro Tactical that sits in my safe...too "nice" to mess up. My opinion on the Strider folders is thus: well-made, very large, framelock folders. Good steel (S30V), good construction, and I really like a well-executed frame lock (harder you squeeze, the more it "locks"). That being said...a slightly used Zero Tolerance 301 or 302 will set you back half as much and IMHO they're just as well-built as the Strider. The ZT line uses a titanium framelock, S30V blade steel, and a G10 slab. You may be more inclined to use it for the rough stuff. In the event it were to be lost or stolen, you can pick up another with the money you saved. |
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If you're going to spend $400 on a folder, look at the Chris Reeve sebenza. It's not as tacticool as a Strider, but less likely to garner attention as well. I really think the seb is apples and oranges in comparison to a Strider. Both are excellent knives (wouldn't sell my seb), but one is for cutting open car-bodies the other for trimming a fine cigar, whittling a stick, opening the mail (gentleman's folder). |
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CRKT M16 when carried point up it will open as you draw it from your pocket due to the double cuard. The tab on the guard will catch on the inside of the pocket opening the knife as you draw it out of your pocket, very quick. It is a liner lock and it has a lock out feature that makes the blade fixed. I think very good value for the price, tho I am not that thrilled by the new design of the serrations. As someone pointed out you have to consider if you really want to use an expensive knife for rough use, and there is always the possibility that someone will just walk off with it. |
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I have no personal experience with Strider knives so this advice is worth what you're paying for it.
Why not get a knife that's built for cutting, and one of these on your keychain? http://www.countycomm.com/widgy.htm Now if you want to buy a Strider just because you think it's cool, have at it. I suffer from the same disorder. |
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If you want well made knife, get any of the Kershaw Zero Tolerance folders. I have the 0302 as an EDC.
I have put it through some serious abuse, and has held up just fine. It is also cheaper and made jsut as well as a Strider. Zero Tolerance 0302 |
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I have this knife CRKT M16 when carried point up it will open as you draw it from your pocket due to the double cuard. The tab on the guard will catch on the inside of the pocket opening the knife as you draw it out of your pocket, very quick. It is a liner lock and it has a lock out feature that makes the blade fixed. I think very good value for the price, tho I am not that thrilled by the new design of the serrations. As someone pointed out you have to consider if you really want to use an expensive knife for rough use, and there is always the possibility that someone will just walk off with it. No offense FZ, but offering the CRKT M16 when he's asking about a Strider is akin to suggesting a Yugo for someone needing an APC. |
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Decide if you're actually going to use a $400 folder roughly. I've got a $500 Crusader Forge Metro Tactical that sits in my safe...too "nice" to mess up. This is the problem I have with expensive knives. Past a certain price point, they don't get used. I have to take this into consideration when buying knives. I've sold off the safe queens, don't need 'em. |
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If you want well made knife, get any of the Kershaw Zero Tolerance folders. I have the 0302 as an EDC. I have put it through some serious abuse, and has held up just fine. It is also cheaper and made jsut as well as a Strider. Zero Tolerance 0302 Ditto this. For the $200+ range get the 300/302. And for closer to the $100 range is the 350 series (which I have). Both series have S30V blades. Tough knives and in a price range that's not insane. |
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Striders are summed up in the phrase : "You get what you pay for". Lifetime service, repair, and sharpening - free. Bomb proof knife that will survive the hardest use you can put it through and come back for more. I have a SNG that I picked up several years ago and it's still going strong. I use it on duty, to dig up roots, to pry open cars, to break windows, to clear malfunctions in AR15's.... you name it.
They are right about it being hard on pants, however. The last time I sent mine in for a 'tuneup' I had them round it off more like their "CC" concealed carry models. I have no problems now in my uniforms or jeans. Striders are the shit. Don't settle for less. Doc PS - If you want to save some dough, find one used and mail it in to strider for a tune up. It will come back looking just like new, and you saved yourself some bills. |
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Decide if you're actually going to use a $400 folder roughly. I've got a $500 Crusader Forge Metro Tactical that sits in my safe...too "nice" to mess up. This is the problem I have with expensive knives. Past a certain price point, they don't get used. I have to take this into consideration when buying knives. I've sold off the safe queens, don't need 'em. Great point and why I chose the $120 ZT350 over the $235 ZT302. I've used and abused my 350, but dunno if I could bring myself to do that to one that cost twice as much. |
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Decide if you're actually going to use a $400 folder roughly. I've got a $500 Crusader Forge Metro Tactical that sits in my safe...too "nice" to mess up. This is the problem I have with expensive knives. Past a certain price point, they don't get used. I have to take this into consideration when buying knives. I've sold off the safe queens, don't need 'em. I'm working on it . I've got a small Sebenza that I carry and use regularly (just not roughly). Seems $300-$350 is my limit...anything that costs more ends up in the safe, sitting on a shelf.
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Decide if you're actually going to use a $400 folder roughly. I've got a $500 Crusader Forge Metro Tactical that sits in my safe...too "nice" to mess up. This is the problem I have with expensive knives. Past a certain price point, they don't get used. I have to take this into consideration when buying knives. I've sold off the safe queens, don't need 'em. Great point and why I chose the $120 ZT350 over the $235 ZT302. I've used and abused my 350, but dunno if I could bring myself to do that to one that cost twice as much. You can find 301s and 302s slightly used for $150 or LNIB for $170. I bought a LNIB version for yard work (cutting typar, trimming small suckers) while I waited on a new clip and screw set for my old Benchmade. Now I've got 2 "yard knives". My wife now understands why I had to have a 302 for this...since the other 50 or so knives just wouldn't have sufficed for one reason or another .
I just mailed payment for a LNIB Surefire Delta folder on the EE. I think I'll tell her this one is for the front yard, others are for the backyard. |
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Quoted: IMHO Striders are over sized sharpened pry bars (or at least everyone i have owned or handled). unless you are using your knife to pry open cars on a daily basis you would be much better served with a more traditional design, if you want a tough use knife nothing is stronger then a fixed blade. ETA: I have a couple that I bought because I know that rabid fan boys will pay top dollar for discontinued versions, they are investments, not users. ETA 2: Mick Strider is an asshole, he lies about his military service and is a felon. He is fairly well-known in the blade community for this. And for this reason, specifically, I will never own or use a Strider knife. |
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If you want well made knife, get any of the Kershaw Zero Tolerance folders. I have the 0302 as an EDC. I have put it through some serious abuse, and has held up just fine. It is also cheaper and made jsut as well as a Strider. Zero Tolerance 0302 Ditto this. For the $200+ range get the 300/302. And for closer to the $100 range is the 350 series (which I have). Both series have S30V blades. Tough knives and in a price range that's not insane. The ZT knife has caught my eye know after looking at the price. Can anyone tell me what there policy is for the warranty? I looking on they web site and all I could find was where and how to ship it to them. |
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If you want well made knife, get any of the Kershaw Zero Tolerance folders. I have the 0302 as an EDC. I have put it through some serious abuse, and has held up just fine. It is also cheaper and made jsut as well as a Strider. Zero Tolerance 0302 Ditto this. For the $200+ range get the 300/302. And for closer to the $100 range is the 350 series (which I have). Both series have S30V blades. Tough knives and in a price range that's not insane. The ZT knife has caught my eye know after looking at the price. Can anyone tell me what there policy is for the warranty? I looking on they web site and all I could find was where and how to ship it to them. Limited Lifetime Warranty. Lifetime Free Sharpening. Never had to send one back so I can't comment on their CS. From what I've read it's quite good. 200 series for 154CM blade. 300 series for S30V blade and assisted opening feature. |
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I have this knife CRKT M16 when carried point up it will open as you draw it from your pocket due to the double cuard. The tab on the guard will catch on the inside of the pocket opening the knife as you draw it out of your pocket, very quick. It is a liner lock and it has a lock out feature that makes the blade fixed. I think very good value for the price, tho I am not that thrilled by the new design of the serrations. As someone pointed out you have to consider if you really want to use an expensive knife for rough use, and there is always the possibility that someone will just walk off with it. No offense FZ, but offering the CRKT M16 when he's asking about a Strider is akin to suggesting a Yugo for someone needing an APC. None taken. Just my opinion, I have lost a $100 Emerson and broken an expensive knife. For what he is talking about spending he can buy three of something else and still pocket some $. I have am not Leo or Military. I use a knife for everything you might expect. Cutting whatever comes to hand, digging a nail out of a tire, or digging a bullet out of a 4x4, or cutting dead bamboo stalks. I just could not do that with a $400 knife. But, that's just me. For example, you are at my range in the country and you notice a .45 gold dot in the 4x4 target stand. Are you going to dig that out with a $400 knive and possibley damage the point. Or had you rather use a $40 CRKT? |
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I have this knife CRKT M16 when carried point up it will open as you draw it from your pocket due to the double cuard. The tab on the guard will catch on the inside of the pocket opening the knife as you draw it out of your pocket, very quick. It is a liner lock and it has a lock out feature that makes the blade fixed. I think very good value for the price, tho I am not that thrilled by the new design of the serrations. As someone pointed out you have to consider if you really want to use an expensive knife for rough use, and there is always the possibility that someone will just walk off with it. No offense FZ, but offering the CRKT M16 when he's asking about a Strider is akin to suggesting a Yugo for someone needing an APC. None taken. Just my opinion, I have lost a $100 Emerson and broken an expensive knife. For what he is talking about spending he can buy three of something else and still pocket some $. I have am not Leo or Military. I use a knife for everything you might expect. Cutting whatever comes to hand, digging a nail out of a tire, or digging a bullet out of a 4x4, or cutting dead bamboo stalks. I just could not do that with a $400 knife. But, that's just me. lots of people can't. that's why many have suggested a ZT 300 series knife...same kind of build, less than half the price. |
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IMHO Striders are over sized sharpened pry bars (or at least everyone i have owned or handled). unless you are using your knife to pry open cars on a daily basis you would be much better served with a more traditional design, if you want a tough use knife nothing is stronger then a fixed blade. ETA: I have a couple that I bought because I know that rabid fan boys will pay top dollar for discontinued versions, they are investments, not users.
ETA 2: Mick Strider is an asshole, he lies about his military service and is a felon. He is fairly well-known in the blade community for this. And for this reason, specifically, I will never own or use a Strider knife. For those interested: read here Dwayne Dwyer is supposedly a good guy. Mick Strider...not so much. |
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Decide if you're actually going to use a $400 folder roughly. I've got a $500 Crusader Forge Metro Tactical that sits in my safe...too "nice" to mess up. This is the problem I have with expensive knives. Past a certain price point, they don't get used. I have to take this into consideration when buying knives. I've sold off the safe queens, don't need 'em. Great point and why I chose the $120 ZT350 over the $235 ZT302. I've used and abused my 350, but dunno if I could bring myself to do that to one that cost twice as much. You can find 301s and 302s slightly used for $150 or LNIB for $170. I bought a LNIB version for yard work (cutting typar, trimming small suckers) while I waited on a new clip and screw set for my old Benchmade. Now I've got 2 "yard knives". My wife now understands why I had to have a 302 for this...since the other 50 or so knives just wouldn't have sufficed for one reason or another .
I just mailed payment for a LNIB Surefire Delta folder on the EE. I think I'll tell her this one is for the front yard, others are for the backyard. While not quite as impressive as your collection, mine is plenty big/expensive and the wife was giving me the eye after I bought the ZT350ST. She was okay with that, but I was still eyeing the ZT302 and that's what was making her give me the eye. And after I thought about it for a while I realized that I'd just shove the 302 in the safe anyways (where all my other knives are) and not use it for EDC. I'm very comfortable with the 350 for EDC and have been using it for that since I bought it. I rarely take anything else out of the safe and carry it now. But I have been fighting the urge to buy another 350 to have as a spare in case I lose mine. I'm a big "spare" guy. I've got spare knives, guns, bikes, amps, guitars, fly rods, etc. It's just silly. And if she'd let me... I'd surely have a spare wife or two...
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I've been carrying a SMF spearpoint everyday for a couple 3 years now. I cracked the blade by the thumbstud somehow sent it back and they put a new blade on it and away I go . I also have the same frame with a tanto blade that I never carry (except when the spearpoint was in the shop) . I also have a DB that is more like a sharp railroad spike than a fixed blade knife.
They are quite pricey and they were gifts from my better half that just so happens to collect knives, most of which I buy her as gifts for x-mas or whatever. She would be pissed if I didn't carry them. We look at knives as a tool , I make my living with my hands more than my head so I try to use tools that will last and get the job done. The wieght and hand of this knife is perfect for my liking and I'll get another if something happens to this one. You cannot go wrong with one as far as I'm concerned. Is there cheaper stuff out there ? Hell yea ! Is there better ? There just might be But it won't be anything comming out of china ...that I am certain of. |
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I hadn't heard the car theft thing before... the court documents showed armed car jacking. Spent 5 years in prison...about the time he was making knives for "speshul forces". Good knives, but Strider is a douchebag. By court order he had to recant his statements about being a Ranger, having combat experience, being special forces. According to the thread he was supposed to see to it that all of his posts mentioning false service be deleted, that Buck knives pull their marketing stuff about his SOCOM experience, etc. except it can still be found (this was due to a defamation/slander suit filed against him by TAG gear). Apparently he went AWOL (according to mil. record)(I didn't know that), was demoted and recieved a less than honorable discharge. |
| Mick Strider aka Mickey Ray Burger, makes a bombproof knife. I used to own an AR and loved it. But after I learned about him lying about his military service (he was also a felon, but served his time, so I don't have a problem with that) and continues to lie about his military service and accomplishments, I'll never own another Strider and sold off all $3000 of my Strider knives. |
| I have been and continue to expect the values to tank based on the information about Strider's claims. I would not spend my money on one. That being said it is also my belief that the fanboys have too much money tied up in Strider Knives to let the prices drop and keep hyping the knives and the maker on the web to protect their investments. |
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where to begin,........
ive gone through a couple SMF's and a SNG. all three, sooner or later had the same problem. its that friggin blade pivoting mechanism. that proprietary bullshit pivoting pin, it blowz ass, badly. it always came loose, and never seemed to stay in place. even after trips back to strider. (2). during this time, the frame lock started to loosen up, and had to be bent back in, regardless of hinderer button. of course this didnt all happen overnight, but over time, i cant settle for problems that keep happening over time, again and again. so i stick with Microtechs these days... 
2 benchmades in this pic are worth it too.. 
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I've had several fixed & folding striders; but comparing them to other knives is like asking if a Colt AR is better than a DPMS.
Depends on what you're using it for, and how much do you want to pay. IMHO, it's a personal diffrence based on you're expirence EDCing a knife & your intendend use. A box knife will cut just as good as an SNG but won't hold an edge as long. Knives are just like guns in one regard; you spend alot of time & money buying, trying & selling alot of diffrent types to find what you really need, not what you want. Go to a good knife store or other vendor that has a good selection & play with all of em. Striders are very good knives, but in my budget a Benchmade works just as good and then I have several $$$ left over for more guns. |
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IMHO Striders are over sized sharpened pry bars (or at least everyone i have owned or handled). unless you are using your knife to pry open cars on a daily basis you would be much better served with a more traditional design, if you want a tough use knife nothing is stronger then a fixed blade. ETA: I have a couple that I bought because I know that rabid fan boys will pay top dollar for discontinued versions, they are investments, not users.
ETA 2: Mick Strider is an asshole, he lies about his military service and is a felon. He is fairly well-known in the blade community for this. And for this reason, specifically, I will never own or use a Strider knife. For those interested: [url=http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=453852]read here[/ Dwayne Dwyer is supposedly a good guy. Mick Strider...not so much. dwyer did his pt on the grinder in coronado and passed hell week. he makes a very good product. |
