Posted: 6/22/2009 6:58:07 PM EDT
| Local shop had one today for $1525 he said he could sell it for $1400. Yes it was brand new and if I had the cash I would have bought it. That's the cheapest price I have seen it's even lower than AIM with the fathers day 10% discount. |
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Ya it's the one they have on the AIM site. Very nice rifle.
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Daniel_Defense_.223_5.56_M4_Rifle.html |
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meh, I'd pass. plain Jane and way too nose heavy, and for what? ...for one of the highest quality AR builds on the market that comes out of the box with a good free-float rail system, optics ready BUIS, a Magpul collapsible stock. If that doesn't tickle your fancy, you can spend ~ 1200 and get the new DD XV carbine: 
...which does away with the rail system and the MOE stock and grip...but does include a cold hammer-forged barrel. Daniel Defense is kicking some ass. I just wish they had these options out when I was buying my 6920 late last year.... So to answer the OP....the DD rifle offerings are superb. |
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That's ($1400) is below dealer, I'd get it. I have two, they are great rifles and worth the money for what you get... Every bit as nice as Colt. Colts are fine rifles but I honestly feel DD has them beat on fit and finish. My two cents. 
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My dealer out here just picked up 150 of those. Paid cash for em. How are they? You're talking about the ones with the full rail that wraps around an A2 standard front sight? Love mine, ran 150 rounds of various stuff through it for break in and then shot a 3gun match with it. 0 malfunctions or problems of any sort. |
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That's ($1400) is below dealer, I'd get it. I have two, they are great rifles and worth the money for what you get... Every bit as nice as Colt. Colts are fine rifles but I honestly feel DD has them beat on fit and finish. My two cents.
Here's mine: I agree. ...so now we're up to 4 cents. I suppose it depends on your Colts... Mine are as nice as my two DD M4s and vis-versa. It's damn sure a better value for the money and better rifle out of the box. RDS and an X300 @ 12 o'clock is all it needs. |
| If I had the cash I would have bought it for $1400 he may have been talking shit though. This shop has only been open for about a few months but he said he had 15 more coming, ya we'll see. Another local shop owner did some calling and said the best he could do for me was $1500 out the door and that was with a discount for me. He said he could get them for under $1300 but would have to be bound in a contract with DD to order $35K worth of guns from them and didn't know if he could get rid of that many in a year. Sounds like this is a great gun and I may have to look to making it the next gun on my list. |
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I live here, and have shot with those guys that make that stuff. Sneaky fuckers, all of them. I knew that they were making receivers, a hundred or so at a time. Not for sale. Lying assed, OPSEC maintaining motherfuckers. Theses guys make good stuff, and are people too. Daniel Defense is the LaRueTactical of Georgia. |
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Local shop had one today for $1525 he said he could sell it for $1400. Yes it was brand new and if I had the cash I would have bought it. That's the cheapest price I have seen it's even lower than AIM with the fathers day 10% discount. Doesn't the AIM Surplus DD M4 package include a bunch of PMags and an EOtech? Are you comparing apples to oranges on the total package? |
| While I am sure they are of good quality, the rails on those things are ugly as hell. If you're going to extend the rail, you might as well build it around a mid length, so you'd get more accuracy out of the extra weight. Not sure why anyone would need the extra bit of rails in front of the front sight anyways. |
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meh, I'd pass. plain Jane and way too nose heavy, and for what? ...for one of the highest quality AR builds on the market that comes out of the box with a good free-float rail system, optics ready BUIS, a Magpul collapsible stock. If that doesn't tickle your fancy, you can spend ~ 1200 and get the new DD XV carbine: http://riflegear.com/images/PRODUCT/medium/585.jpg ...which does away with the rail system and the MOE stock and grip...but does include a cold hammer-forged barrel. Daniel Defense is kicking some ass. I just wish they had these options out when I was buying my 6920 late last year.... So to answer the OP....the DD rifle offerings are superb. I just bought a 6920 yesterday. This is what I did to it. Daniel Defense Omega 9.0 free float hand guards low profile gas block Magpul BUIS Magpul rail covers I'm happy with the results 
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While I am sure they are of good quality, the rails on those things are ugly as hell. If you're going to extend the rail, you might as well build it around a mid length, so you'd get more accuracy out of the extra weight. Not sure why anyone would need the extra bit of rails in front of the front sight anyways. It's not a car you're using to pick up models on South Beach, it's a rifle. The 12 o'clock in front of the FSB is perfect for an X300, why? It puts your thumb right on the toggle switches w/o burning your fingers on the FSB. 12 o'clock is also the best position for your light because it doesn't splash against barricades/walls like it will at the 3,6,or 9 position. The rifle was spec'd out by Larry Vickers, there is nothing bad about it. |
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While I am sure they are of good quality, the rails on those things are ugly as hell. If you're going to extend the rail, you might as well build it around a mid length, so you'd get more accuracy out of the extra weight. Not sure why anyone would need the extra bit of rails in front of the front sight anyways. It's not a car you're using to pick up models on South Beach, it's a rifle. The 12 o'clock in front of the FSB is perfect for an X300, why? It puts your thumb right on the toggle switches w/o burning your fingers on the FSB. 12 o'clock is also the best position for your light because it doesn't splash against barricades/walls like it will at the 3,6,or 9 position. Yea, but I'm just saying, if you're going to have the extra rail length, make it a mid length. Also, 99% of all people who will ever have one will do nothing but take it out for fun anyways. 
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While I am sure they are of good quality, the rails on those things are ugly as hell. If you're going to extend the rail, you might as well build it around a mid length, so you'd get more accuracy out of the extra weight. Not sure why anyone would need the extra bit of rails in front of the front sight anyways. It's not a car you're using to pick up models on South Beach, it's a rifle. The 12 o'clock in front of the FSB is perfect for an X300, why? It puts your thumb right on the toggle switches w/o burning your fingers on the FSB. 12 o'clock is also the best position for your light because it doesn't splash against barricades/walls like it will at the 3,6,or 9 position. Yea, but I'm just saying, if you're going to have the extra rail length, make it a mid length. No, you said it was "ugly as hell", that was your argument. Then you throw the silly statement out that; "so you'd get more accuracy out of the extra weight", which isn't the point of the rifle and I'm not sure how weight makes the rifle more accurate... Though the rifle is darn accurate, at least my two are. The rifle is a patrol/fighting rifle and it actually fairly light weight. By your quote of "so you'd get more accuracy out of the extra weight", are you saying a Noveske N4 barrel/rifle is an inaccurate POS because it is light weight? Also, 99% of all people who will ever have one will do nothing but take it out for fun anyways.
What makes you qualified to make that statement? The 1% may put it to good use. You have added nothing to this thread, except your opinion, which is uninformed thus a joke. |
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While I am sure they are of good quality, the rails on those things are ugly as hell. If you're going to extend the rail, you might as well build it around a mid length, so you'd get more accuracy out of the extra weight. Not sure why anyone would need the extra bit of rails in front of the front sight anyways. It's not a car you're using to pick up models on South Beach, it's a rifle. The 12 o'clock in front of the FSB is perfect for an X300, why? It puts your thumb right on the toggle switches w/o burning your fingers on the FSB. 12 o'clock is also the best position for your light because it doesn't splash against barricades/walls like it will at the 3,6,or 9 position. Yea, but I'm just saying, if you're going to have the extra rail length, make it a mid length. No, you said it was "ugly as hell", that was your argument. Then you throw the silly statement out that; "so you'd get more accuracy out of the extra weight", which isn't the point of the rifle and I'm not sure how weight makes the rifle more accurate... Though the rifle is darn accurate, at least my two are. The rifle is a patrol/fighting rifle and it actually fairly light weight. By your quote of "so you'd get more accuracy out of the extra weight", are you saying a Noveske N4 barrel/rifle is an inaccurate POS because it is light weight? You double failed at reading. 1) In my original post, my opinion (wasn't an argument until you came along) was that if you're extending the rail, you should just make it into a mid length. From everyone I've heard who owns both, they say the mid lengths are more accurate. And, that it does look ugly as hell. 2) The next part in bold is another big failure at reading. I never said heavier = more accurate. I'd suggest rereading that part. 3) I never said anything about the Noveske. And again, I never said heavy = more accurate. Not sure where you got the idea that I said a weapons weight = accuracy. Just reading fail. Quoted:
What makes you qualified to make that statement? The 1% may put it to good use. You have added nothing to this thread, except your opinion, which is uninformed thus a joke. Because only your opinion is valid, and everyone else who disagrees with you isn't worthy of an opinion. Way to go couch commando. Of course, I am not qualified to say anything, because I am not a member of the chairborne. As for the uniformed part, go reread your thread. Finally, the last comment was a joke (the " " was supposed to inform you of that, but your humor is on the low). This is GD. Don't go Delta-Seal on me over a joke on GD.
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While I am sure they are of good quality, the rails on those things are ugly as hell. If you're going to extend the rail, you might as well build it around a mid length, so you'd get more accuracy out of the extra weight. Not sure why anyone would need the extra bit of rails in front of the front sight anyways. Because mounting an X300 in front of the front sight is THE best light setup currently available. No more clearance issues. It also helps to get your hand as far forward on the carbine as you can to assist in accuracy and recoil control. |
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While I am sure they are of good quality, the rails on those things are ugly as hell. If you're going to extend the rail, you might as well build it around a mid length, so you'd get more accuracy out of the extra weight. Not sure why anyone would need the extra bit of rails in front of the front sight anyways. Because mounting an X300 in front of the front sight is THE best light setup currently available. No more clearance issues. It also helps to get your hand as far forward on the carbine as you can to assist in accuracy and recoil control. Would mounting it below (6 o'clock) have the same effect? |
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Would mounting it below (6 o'clock) have the same effect? No. A 6:00 mount position has its own clearance issues, especially if you're trying to work over the top of a piece of cover. With the 12:00 mount if your barrel is clear, your light is clear. There's nothing protruding from the weapon that will snag. It's the best setup I've ever tried. |
| So we could generally achieve the same effect by purchasing this DD rail and installing it on a standard 16" carbine? I guess one would need to buy tools to remove the front sight base for installation. |