[ARCHIVED THREAD] - A Question About Religious Threads (Page 1 of 9)
Posted: 4/13/2009 8:04:31 AM EDT
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I have an honest question, if I may.....
Yesterday we saw a "Happy Easter" thread turn into the usual circus of religion bashing. I want to know this, please..... If I posted a thread entitled, "Golfers, What is the Best Driver?", I would expect two things: 1. Golfers would give me their opinions about which driver is best. 2. Those that are not interested in golf, and that do not play golf, would read the title and think, "I'm not interested in golf", and just skip the thread. If a person doesn't play golf and is not interested in golf, why would they want to post in such a thread, and especially, why would they want to post stuff like, "I hate golf and golfers are idiots and weaklings!!!" But if I post a question about any general religious subject, self-proclaimed Atheists will post and go into rants about how they don't believe in the "invisible friend" of Christians, and go into rants about how stupid and weak Christians are. Why is that? And, please don't insult our intelligence by saying anything about how Christians "force" their beliefs on anyone, as there is no Christian standing behind you with a gun to your head forcing you to click on any thread. Why not just ignore threads that you are not interested in the subject matter? Please keep it civil....honest question. 
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But if I post a question about any general religious subject, self-proclaimed Atheists will post and go into rants about how they don't believe in the "invisible friend" of Christians, and go into rants about how stupid and weak Christians are. Why is that? OP I would expect responders in a Tech Forum to behave, but GD? All is fair in Love and GD 
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Because people like this exist. Now, don't get me wrong, I know full well he's the extreme minority, and most christians, especially you, are swell guys. But... creatures like that, who are no different from the taliban or al-qaeda, who (violently some times, as this video shows) hate us, for essentially no reason, well, I can certainly understand why others might be "on edge". That said, I've never shit in anyone's thread, nor do I condone it. 
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Post in the religious forum if you want anything serious. Anything posted in GD is open to flames, trolls, ect. No, that's not correct. There is also a "Movie Forum", but we are welcome to post about a movie in GD. If you hate religion, why do you click on religious threads? I don't get it. |
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Post in the religious forum if you want anything serious. Anything posted in GD is open to flames, trolls, ect. No, that's not correct. There is also a "Movie Forum", but we are welcome to post about a movie in GD. If you hate religion, why do you click on religious threads? I don't get it. I don't know. There are plenty of jackasses to go around. I am not religious, and I certainly think it's out of line for people to poop on your Happy Easter threads. FWIW, I like your signature. |
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Because people like this exist. Now, don't get me wrong, I know full well he's the extreme minority, and most christians, especially you, are swell guys. But... creatures like that, who are no different from the taliban or al-qaeda, who (violently some times, as this video shows) hate us, for essentially no reason, well, I can certainly understand why others might be "on edge". That said, I've never shit in anyone's thread, nor do I condone it. No, that doesn't answer the quetion. That guy was a nut case. But he wasn't standing over you with a gun to your head forcing you to click on any thread. Why would you click on a thread about a subject that you hate? |
So by this same token, someone posting a pagan thread about the origins of Easter (as an example) would go ignored by the other side? It's a nice idea - I think people like to flame too much and criticize others as a hobby than to simply ignore a viewpoint they disagree with. Human history is rife with humanoids arguing, fighting and killing over their ideals. I think it's just hardwired into our brains, no matter how much many of us would prefer a civil exchange of ideas 
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Quoted: Quoted: Post in the religious forum if you want anything serious. Anything posted in GD is open to flames, trolls, ect. No, that's not correct. There is also a "Movie Forum", but we are welcome to post about a movie in GD. If you hate religion, why do you click on religious threads? I don't get it. GD isn't exclusive to anything. Other forums are exclusive to their topic. You can post about movies in GD, you can't post GD topics in movies. |
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I agree completely. I'm an atheist and I most often avoid the subject of religion because I don't have anything to say that hasn't been heard before. I was raised in a religious setting and it is absolutely beyond me why anybody would be so disrespectful of another's beliefs. It's juvenile to bash religion in an Easter thread. |
| IMO Christian bashing is one of the few things that makes some atheists feel better about their choice, especially those that are bitter or still not fully matured. My opinion is based on my experiences in my late teens and early 20's when I professed to be an atheist and surrounded myself with the same. It was a common action amongst atheists, belittle the Christians to feel intellectually superior, a most self-serving pursuit. Reading their input here I see little has changed. Same rhetoric, same motive for most. |
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Quoted: Well for one, golf hasn't killed millions of people over the centuries. Golf does not trick you into believing made up stories. Golf does not ask you to throw away any reason or common sense you have. I will say god, like golf will steal all your money. Religion doesn't kill people, people do. Guns don't kill people, people do. |
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You raise a fair question. I feel it's just immature people who crave attention and need their opinion heard at any chance. Excuse my language, but they are simply attention whores. Unfortunately, the anonynimity of the internet breeds and brings out this behavior in people. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Lots of people like to argue on the internet. It doesnt matter if its about religion or golf.
If you posted a golf thread, you would almost definitely get someone complaining about how golf is a game for nancy boys and such. Religion is a hot button topic, so you can just expect more of that. Its no different than if you made a post about another hot button topic, like abortion, politics, etc. |
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But if I post a question about any general religious subject, self-proclaimed Atheists will post and go into rants about how they don't believe in the "invisible friend" of Christians, and go into rants about how stupid and weak Christians are. Why is that? OP I would expect responders in a Tech Forum to behave, but GD? All is fair in Love and GD No, that is not correct. "All" is not "fair" in GD. There is a Code of Conduct that says: "1.) Posting derogatory comments of a racial, religious, or sexual nature." It also talks about respecting other members and not being insulting. Again, why not just skip the thread if you aren't interested in religion? |
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Golfers don't generally use the rules of golf as a broad moral code. Golfers don't generally try to make other people live their lives by the rules of golf. Golfers don't generally proselytize about golf to people who aren't interested in golf. I dunno man, I know some hard core golfers that are constantly trying to get me interested in that lame sport 
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Golfers don't generally use the rules of golf as a broad moral code. Golfers don't generally try to make other people live their lives by the rules of golf. Golfers don't generally proselytize about golf to people who aren't interested in golf. That's just it though. Who's proselytizing to you on Arfcom? Again, don't click on it if you don't like it. When the message was tailored to Believers ("Happy Easter!" wishes) why would someone click on it just to dump on it? Old Painless is right ... why are some compelled to dump on religion whenever possible? |
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1.) Because Christians are quick to jump into a non-Christian thread and tell everybody that they are going to hell, that evolution is a lie, that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old, that atheists are all communist baby-killers, etc. 2.) Trolling. It's like when Muslims are talking about how righteous the Religion of Peace is, a troll will try to elicit a hateful and violent outburst from the Muslims to objectify the irony. So since Christians are always talking about the love of Jesus and the serenity of faith, etc. the object is to elicit a very spiteful and "Earthy" response to turn the thread into a demonstration of the vitriolic hatred that most Christians are trained to display toward atheists. |
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Because people like this exist. Now, don't get me wrong, I know full well he's the extreme minority, and most christians, especially you, are swell guys. But... creatures like that, who are no different from the taliban or al-qaeda, who (violently some times, as this video shows) hate us, for essentially no reason, well, I can certainly understand why others might be "on edge". That said, I've never shit in anyone's thread, nor do I condone it. No, that doesn't answer the quetion. That guy was a nut case. But he wasn't standing over you with a gun to your head forcing you to click on any thread. Why would you click on a thread about a subject that you hate? Ask Christians why they post hateful things in a thread about Atheism. |
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Quoted: IMO Christian bashing is one of the few things that makes some atheists feel better about their choice, especially those that are bitter or still not fully matured. My opinion is based on my experiences in my late teens and early 20's when I professed to be an atheist and surrounded myself with the same. It was a common action amongst atheists, belittle the Christians to feel intellectually superior, a most self-serving pursuit. Reading their input here I see little has changed. Same rhetoric, same motive for most. Same shit with Christians, how many times is there an athiest-centric thread and Christians come in and go "ha ha, I'm gonna go to heaven, have fun in hell Athiests!!11" all smug like, like they're the intellectually superior ones. There are mature and immature people in both groups.... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Golfers don't generally use the rules of golf as a broad moral code. Golfers don't generally try to make other people live their lives by the rules of golf. Golfers don't generally proselytize about golf to people who aren't interested in golf. That's just it though. Who's proselytizing to you on Arfcom? Again, don't click on it if you don't like it. When the message was tailored to Believers ("Happy Easter!" wishes) why would someone click on it just to dump on it? Old Painless is right ... why are some compelled to dump on religion whenever possible? I don't think that anyone is proselytizing to me on ARFCOM, I am quite sure that you haven't seen me shitting in religious threads. I was simply answering the question as to why people who don't care for religion might get involved in religious threads. It could be because they have had someone try to force religion on them before, so now they have an opinion on the subject. |
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Post in the religious forum if you want anything serious. Anything posted in GD is open to flames, trolls, ect. I don't take anything posted in GD serious, gotta have one forum for the trolls or else it spills over to the technical forums. ETA: http://api.ning.com/files/1hpdiQPiWat2xjYf5WAsiHDJVs-7qEysZOgl7TFAgj8-vMr*I6*HlS*iTm7rwTNsfJAxuUL4b0jW3UmfPTOhkTHPZxdv8YcM/babysale.jpg Great example, Thatdude333. I post an honest question, and even ask everyone to "keep it civil", and what do you do? You post a blasphemous cartoon in my thread. Have you no manners at all? Don't you have any respect for other shooters and members here? |
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Because people like this exist. Now, don't get me wrong, I know full well he's the extreme minority, and most christians, especially you, are swell guys. But... creatures like that, who are no different from the taliban or al-qaeda, who (violently some times, as this video shows) hate us, for essentially no reason, well, I can certainly understand why others might be "on edge". That said, I've never shit in anyone's thread, nor do I condone it. No, that doesn't answer the quetion. That guy was a nut case. But he wasn't standing over you with a gun to your head forcing you to click on any thread. Why would you click on a thread about a subject that you hate? My guess would be the extrapolation of people like that onto the whole of christianity, and assuming that since all christians hate them, they should hate right back. |
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Golfers don't generally use the rules of golf as a broad moral code. Golfers don't generally try to make other people live their lives by the rules of golf. Golfers don't generally proselytize about golf to people who aren't interested in golf. That's just it though. Who's proselytizing to you on Arfcom? Again, don't click on it if you don't like it. When the message was tailored to Believers ("Happy Easter!" wishes) why would someone click on it just to dump on it? Old Painless is right ... why are some compelled to dump on religion whenever possible? I don't think that anyone is proselytizing to me on ARFCOM, I am quite sure that you haven't seen me shitting in religious threads. I was simply answering the question as to why people who don't care for religion might get involved in religious threads. It could be because they have had someone try to force religion on them before, so now they have an opinion on the subject. I was more using your post as a springboard to discuss the broader topic, I should have noted that.
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Some of the smug Christians love to play "holier than thou" (haha), and this gets a certain segment of the nonreligious all juiced up and ready for a brawl. Retardation follows.
The same can be said of some of the non/anti religious folk who troll the holy rollers. Religion (or the lack thereof) is a thing that many people on both sides of the fence take seriously enough to use as an excuse to make total asses out of themselves... but this should come as a surprise to no one. It is the way of GD threads in general. |
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IMO Christian bashing is one of the few things that makes some atheists feel better about their choice, especially those that are bitter or still not fully matured. My opinion is based on my experiences in my late teens and early 20's when I professed to be an atheist and surrounded myself with the same. It was a common action amongst atheists, belittle the Christians to feel intellectually superior, a most self-serving pursuit. Reading their input here I see little has changed. Same rhetoric, same motive for most. Same shit with Christians, how many times is there an athiest-centric thread and Christians come in and go "ha ha, I'm gonna go to heaven, have fun in hell Athiests!!11" all smug like, like they're the intellectually superior ones. There are mature and immature people in both groups.... Links? I have rarely seen anything of that sort. Perhaps you are inferring along the lines of what you want to see. I do agree with your last point though. |
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Because people like this exist. Now, don't get me wrong, I know full well he's the extreme minority, and most christians, especially you, are swell guys. But... creatures like that, who are no different from the taliban or al-qaeda, who (violently some times, as this video shows) hate us, for essentially no reason, well, I can certainly understand why others might be "on edge". That said, I've never shit in anyone's thread, nor do I condone it. No, that doesn't answer the quetion. That guy was a nut case. But he wasn't standing over you with a gun to your head forcing you to click on any thread. Why would you click on a thread about a subject that you hate? Ask Christians why they post hateful things in a thread about Atheism. Show me. FWIW you will know them by their actions... |
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Post in the religious forum if you want anything serious. Anything posted in GD is open to flames, trolls, ect. No, that's not correct. There is also a "Movie Forum", but we are welcome to post about a movie in GD. If you hate religion, why do you click on religious threads? I don't get it. Because deep down they have a uneasy feeling that they might be wrong and so they automatically lash out at anything that bring attention to that feeling. |
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Because people like this exist. Now, don't get me wrong, I know full well he's the extreme minority, and most christians, especially you, are swell guys. But... creatures like that, who are no different from the taliban or al-qaeda, who (violently some times, as this video shows) hate us, for essentially no reason, well, I can certainly understand why others might be "on edge". That said, I've never shit in anyone's thread, nor do I condone it. No, that doesn't answer the quetion. That guy was a nut case. But he wasn't standing over you with a gun to your head forcing you to click on any thread. Why would you click on a thread about a subject that you hate? Ask Christians why they post hateful things in a thread about Atheism. Show me. FWIW you will know them by their actions... There was one last week or 2. I dont have the time to search for it. 14 hour shift 4 hours sleep and back to 14 hours. |
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Jesus did say His followers would be hated. There is way to much Christian bashing though. I don't understand why the haters don't just skip the threads either. Ithink it has alot to do with the emptiness they feel inside without God. And so it begins... Pot, meet kettle. 
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O_P, you know the answer. I know the answer.
In fact, Christ Himself told us the answer. Deep down, some of those that do it (post the insults) know the answer. John 15:19 "If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, ecause of this the world hates you. Matthew 10:22 "You will be hated by all because of My name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved. Matthew 24:9 "Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. |
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Golfers don't generally use the rules of golf as a broad moral code. Golfers don't generally try to make other people live their lives by the rules of golf. Golfers don't generally proselytize about golf to people who aren't interested in golf. Not my experience at all. I've known a few golfers, and very few of them could shut the fuck up about chasing a little ball around a rifle range. But happy Easter anyway
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1.) Because Christians are quick to jump into a non-Christian thread and tell everybody that they are going to hell, that evolution is a lie, that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old, that atheists are all communist baby-killers, etc. 2.) Trolling. It's like when Muslims are talking about how righteous the Religion of Peace is, a troll will try to elicit a hateful and violent outburst from the Muslims to objectify the irony. So since Christians are always talking about the love of Jesus and the serenity of faith, etc. the object is to elicit a very spiteful and "Earthy" response to turn the thread into a demonstration of the vitriolic hatred that most Christians are trained o display toward atheists. Really?? You believe that? "Vitriolic hatred...toward athiests"? I think you will find concern, and possibly pity from most Christians, but to say most Christians HATE athiests with such gusto as you suggest seems a bit over the top. Your answer has nothing to do with the question, other than it shows you are immature enough to justify crapping in someone's thread because you expect them to do the same to you. |
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O_P, you know the answer. I know the answer. In fact, Christ Himself told us the answer. Deep down, some of those that do it (post the insults) know the answer. John 15:19 "If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, ecause of this the world hates you. Matthew 10:22 "You will be hated by all because of My name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved. Matthew 24:9 "Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. Of course, I know that.
But that wasn't my honest question. I know "why" Atheists hate Christians and God. But my question was: "If you aren't interested in religious discussions, why click on the thread?" That's what I am asking. |
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Good question O_P. I've wondered that myself. When I read a thread title that describes something I'm not interested in I don't click it. An example would be the cat threads telling the haters to stay out. I hate cats, so I don't go. We have a pet forum but why get butt-hurt over a stupid cat thread. Golf, same thing, not interested and we have a sports forum. If there's a sports thread in GD, big deal.
I'm not very religious and I feel some people take it too far. The other end of that spectrum is the atheists. Atheists seem to have made a religion out of bashing religion. They are just as much extremist as the Religious extremist's. No one here has ever told me I HAVE to believe in God or that I'm a idiot for believing in God but atheists seem to have no problem telling you you're stupid for your beliefs. |