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4/8/2009 8:15:15 PM EDT
Is there any real shock here?  Blood is thicker than water.

HH
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Obama admin warns Israel, not Iran

Ed Lasky

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/04/obama_admin_warns_israel_not_i.html

American Thinker has carried numerous articles over the past two years predicting that Barack Obama would prove to be an appeaser of tyrants. He has fulfilled our predictions.

His obsequiesness towards the tyrannical regime of Iran; his bowing to the Saudi king (even the Center for American Progress; closely tied to the Administration, admits Obama bowed), his television address to the Arab world on a partially Saudi-owned cable network, his expansion of aid to the Palestinians; his claim that the Muslim world has enriched America; his commitment to join the UN Human Rights Council; his first call as President was to Palestinian leader Mohammed Abbas; his gutting of defense spending –– particularly the ending of the F-22 and missile defense programs –– crucial to dealing with regimes developing nuclear weapons; his placidity towards Russia's and North Korea's aggressiveness; his apology tour of Europe; well..the list could go on and on.


Now to be truly effective, his abasement of America must also reflect itself  in the belittling and weakening our allies and friends. This he has started to do with his serial and shameful diplomatic faux pas involving Great Britain. Now he has turned his focus onto Israel –– a small nation surrounded by far more numerous and wealthy enemies –– one of which, Iran, routinely boasts that it will destroy Israel.


In the face of these manifold existential threats, what does Barack Obama do? He sends an unprecedented warning to Congress that there will be an upcoming clash with Israel and he demands that Congress support  his policies. Will he send his legion of grassroots supporters to petition their Congressional members to support the President? After all, he has told them recently that he is "keeping score" regarding the level of support they show for him.


Just in case, no one misses the message, his Vice-President, Joe Biden, to reinforce the message to Israel that traditional American support may not be forthcoming. Last night on CNN, Biden warned Israel not to attack Iran. . Israel is a sovereign nation whose people face the prospect of another Holocaust. Yet the message from the leader of a nation who has in the past been its best friend is... what? Drop dead?


Any experienced leader would realize that threats of military force is one tool that can be used with diplomacy to shape other nations' behavior. America has just sent a message to Iran that they need not take risk into account in the future. As America cuts the F-22 Raptor and missile defense programs-just a day after North Korea (allied with Iran) launches a ballistic missile, what message is Obama sending to the rest of the world?


The era of Pax Americana has ended and with it much of the security for the Western world.
4/8/2009 8:23:40 PM EDT
[#1]
This comes as a complete surprise.

4/8/2009 8:24:32 PM EDT
[#2]
Expect anything different ?
4/8/2009 8:26:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
This comes as a complete surprise.



Easily predictable.  Imagine that.



HH
4/8/2009 8:27:33 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Expect anything different ?


Hmmm....nope.

Totally expected and we'll see this every single time.

HH

4/8/2009 8:29:20 PM EDT
[#5]
this doesn't surprise me
4/8/2009 8:31:05 PM EDT
[#6]
I wouldn't be surprised if the kenyan would join Iran in bombing Israel if they did something to offend his muslim brothers.
4/8/2009 8:31:16 PM EDT
[#7]
The sonuva bitch is about to light a fire he can't put out.

4/8/2009 8:32:59 PM EDT
[#8]
Israel is on it's own.  And I bet this comes as no shock to them.  We all knew what Obama was before we elected him, or at least anyone brighter than a sewing machine bulb did.
4/8/2009 8:33:02 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
The sonuva bitch is about to light a fire he can't put out.


...and there are many of us that think you're right.

HH

4/8/2009 8:33:54 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Israel is on it's own.  And I bet this comes as no shock to them.  We all knew what Obama was before we elected him, or at least anyone brighter than a sewing machine bulb did.


Nail.  On.  The.  Head.



HH

4/8/2009 8:48:47 PM EDT
[#11]
Every time we wrong ISREAL  something bad happens to us.

This will not end well.
4/8/2009 8:49:30 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Every time we wrong ISREAL  something bad happens to us.

This will not end well.


Funny how that works!



HH
4/8/2009 8:53:04 PM EDT
[#13]
Jesus Christ every day of the Obama Admin has been like fucking April fools day...
4/8/2009 8:53:29 PM EDT
[#14]
Gods people what do we expect
4/8/2009 8:58:38 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Gods people what do we expect


And you are???  Cattle?
4/8/2009 9:03:55 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Gods people what do we expect


And you are???  Cattle?


...and you would say that to him, why?



HH

4/8/2009 9:07:25 PM EDT
[#17]
well shit, color me surprised
4/8/2009 9:07:26 PM EDT
[#18]
How bad does it have to get before people see the light? This country has gone progressively down hill since 1.20.09.
4/8/2009 9:10:56 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
How bad does it have to get before people see the light? This country has gone progressively down hill since 1.20.09.


More like hurtling headlong towards a fucking cliff.
4/8/2009 9:11:03 PM EDT
[#20]
They may be better off with out his endorsement.

Sooner or later Israeli is going to have to make a move against Iran.

They should probably give up now on listening to Obama.

4/8/2009 9:11:10 PM EDT
[#21]
obamas going to destroy our relationship with israel like clinton did with ireland..
4/8/2009 9:14:40 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
obamas going to destroy our relationship with israel like clinton did with ireland..


Quick explenation?
4/8/2009 9:17:07 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Gods people what do we expect


And you are???  Cattle?


...and you would say that to him, why?



HH



Well it would be difficult to explain to you considering you're one of God's Non-Chosen who believes the United States must sacrifice all for Israel or God will destroy us.  If you're not "God's chosen" then what exactly are you?
4/8/2009 9:20:39 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
you're one of God's Non-Chosen who believes the United States must sacrifice all for Israel of God will destroy us.



Jumping to extremes aren't you?

Supporting Israel doesn't mean you are sacrificing the U.S.

That is, unless you believe that ZOG crap.


4/8/2009 9:22:12 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
How bad does it have to get before people see the light? This country has gone progressively down hill since 1.20.09.


If Obama continues with the radical left wing agenda, I suspect people will see the light sooner than you might think.
4/8/2009 9:28:05 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:
you're one of God's Non-Chosen who believes the United States must sacrifice all for Israel of God will destroy us.



Jumping to extremes aren't you?

Supporting Israel doesn't mean you are sacrificing the U.S.

That is, unless you believe that ZOG crap.




No extremes here.  Read through a few of these never ending threads about supporting Israel.  There's always a handful of loons who believe that God will punish the United States if we fail to defend Israel.  As they've stated in the past, there's no limits to the extremes they feel we should go to in defense of Israel and "Gods Chosen" in order to circumvent said punishment.
4/8/2009 9:32:12 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
No extremes here.  Read through a few of these never ending threads about supporting Israel.  There's always a handful of loons who believe that God will punish the United States if we fail to defend Israel.  As they've stated in the past, there's no limits to the extremes they feel we should go to in defense of Israel and "Gods Chosen" in order to circumvent said punishment.


Gotta link where HH said that?

I don't think God will punish us, but immenent terrorist attack would result from us not supporting the country on the forefront of Islamic Terrorism.

4/8/2009 9:36:18 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:
No extremes here.  Read through a few of these never ending threads about supporting Israel.  There's always a handful of loons who believe that God will punish the United States if we fail to defend Israel.  As they've stated in the past, there's no limits to the extremes they feel we should go to in defense of Israel and "Gods Chosen" in order to circumvent said punishment.


Gotta link where HH said that?

I don't think God will punish us, but immenent terrorist attack would result from us not supporting the country on the forefront of Islamic Terrorism.



Ahhh man, do I really have to go dig up a quote?  There's a big 'ol indicator in this very thread

Quoted:
Quoted:
Every time we wrong ISREAL  something bad happens to us.

This will not end well.


Funny how that works!



HH



Or better yet, just ask him.

They've taken this support Israel to such extremes from Genesis 12:3.
4/8/2009 9:38:44 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:

Ahhh man, do I really have to go dig up a quote?  Just ask him.  



No, but it would be helpful if you were trying to convince me he ever said "God would punish us if we refused aid to Israel."

4/8/2009 9:44:46 PM EDT
[#30]
no surprise at all. Israel is on their own. IMHO, this makes them bolder.
4/8/2009 9:46:32 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
no surprise at all. Israel is on their own. IMHO, this makes them bolder.


I agree, at the moment they may be better off with out us. Free from the chains.

It isn't like Obama will do anything if Israel does attack Iran.

4/8/2009 9:48:53 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Jesus Christ every day of the Obama Admin has been like fucking April fools day...


You can say that again!

At least they're smart enough to have seen the writing on the wall. I just hope nothing too bad happens before we get a real leader back in the white house.
4/8/2009 9:50:03 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Ahhh man, do I really have to go dig up a quote?  Just ask him.  



No, but it would be helpful if you were trying to convince me he ever said "God would punish us if we refused aid to Israel."



Well, I can't search General without being a paying member so I guess we'll just have to wait and see if HH will come back and give us his opinion on what God has to say about our failure to support Israel.  

In the meantime, what would your best guess as to the meaning of this little tid bit?

Quoted:
Quoted:
Every time we wrong ISREAL  something bad happens to us.

This will not end well.


Funny how that works!



HH
4/8/2009 9:54:23 PM EDT
[#34]
wow. I half agree with Obama.

I don't think we should warn them against action, but warn them that it's not our fight.
4/8/2009 9:54:28 PM EDT
[#35]
And thus, the greatest of protectors has tacitly removed its support.





I'm glad they learned a crapload from us, take no crap....and have nukes.  I think the Merkava 3 will own, as will thier troops.
Until we get our own house straightened out...they may need them.



4/8/2009 9:55:02 PM EDT
[#36]
and so it begins keeps getting worse
4/8/2009 10:01:21 PM EDT
[#37]
I cannot for the life of me understand why it's not painfully obvious to EVERYONE that Obama is an ENEMY of this country and was put in place SOLELY for the purpose of bringing it down in ruins.

Every fucking action he has taken since 1/20/09, has been aimed against our nation...  Sucking the enemy's dick and neutering our defenses...  Stopping the F22 program, our missle defense shield, our nukes, etc...

At what point do our military people and true allies say: "Hey, this fucking Obama guy needs to be stopped before the SHTF in America." ?

We lowly citizens of America can't stop the idiot on our own... we need outside help.
4/8/2009 10:10:45 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The sonuva bitch is about to light a fire he can't put out.


...and there are many of us that think you're right.

HH



Bammi ain't gonna light nothing.

He'll jingle a few coins at most, a warning.

Iz has things they won;t put up with, Iran's playing with them.

Not real hard to see where this one goes next.

Osirak 2, coming soon, to a University near...Esfahan...Arak...Lavizan...and one more, starts with a C if memory serves...the heavy water and small breeder site...

They'll be fallout, even if Iz don't use specials.

pretty much nobody's going to like that, except Iz, me, maybe a few others.

Play with blue fire, you get a suntan, not my rulez, Ma nature set 'em up a couple-twelve billion years back.

Then things get REAL inneresting...



4/9/2009 4:17:14 AM EDT
[#39]
I have this sinking feeling that the Almighty is about to give our nation a giant backhand...  That is, if we continue to push Israel into a two nation state and / or fail to support them or condemn them for any attack on Iran, which is IMMINENT in the coming weeks or months.

Israel's back is to the wall (or the sea to be correct) and they have been left with no choice.  It is going to happen, you can count on it!!
4/9/2009 4:27:22 AM EDT
[#40]
I wonder what all those Jews who voted for Obama are thinking right now.
4/9/2009 4:33:33 AM EDT
[#41]
I wonder what all those Jews who voted for Obama are thinking right now.


They are backing their leader up.  When will we see the FVCK OBAMA bumper stickers?  I'm sure that would invite a firefight or two...



4/9/2009 4:36:05 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
you're one of God's Non-Chosen who believes the United States must sacrifice all for Israel of God will destroy us.



Jumping to extremes aren't you?

Supporting Israel doesn't mean you are sacrificing the U.S.

That is, unless you believe that ZOG crap.




No extremes here.  Read through a few of these never ending threads about supporting Israel.  There's always a handful of loons who believe that God will punish the United States if we fail to defend Israel.  As they've stated in the past, there's no limits to the extremes they feel we should go to in defense of Israel and "Gods Chosen" in order to circumvent said punishment.



I'm not trying to pick, but you should do some of your own research into this.  Look at how the US pushed Israel into the "land for peace" sham on the following periods of time:

Aug - Sept 1992
Aug - Sept 1993
Aug - Sept 2001
Nov. 2002
Most of the year 2005

Then look at the diasters that took placein the US  immediately following each period... (Hint: Hurricanes, floods, 9-11, tornadoes, droughts)

It's uncanny to say the least...

Israel covers only a VERY small fraction of all the land in the middle east, yet we have pressured and pushed them into concession after concession to appease those that won't be bargined with anyway.  The muslim nations don't want Israels land - they want them DEAD.  They are just jockying for position right now building up to the end game.

Funny how you don't see any of the arab nations lining up to help the poor "palestinian" people.  They could simply assimilate them into their own nations and the "problem" would be solved.  Of course this won't ever happen, because they are far too valuable a propaganda tool (that and the UN gives them money) to ever be taken out of "pawn" status.

If we as a nation don't soon learn to stop messing with Isreal, the results will be devastating for the US at the hand of God.  Believe it, because it's coming unless we change course.
4/9/2009 4:40:51 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Every time we wrong ISREAL  something bad happens to us.

This will not end well.

WRONG Israel? Like imprisoning Mossad spies who happen to also be US citizens, or were you thinking of something else?

And do you think that the outcome you mentioned is God's judgement on America or possibly Israeli action against us?
4/9/2009 4:47:02 AM EDT
[#44]
And in response,





Dear President Obama,





Fuck off.





Sincerely,



Israel



Israel
4/9/2009 4:48:02 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
I wonder what all those Jews who voted for Obama are thinking right now.


BINGO !!

I was wondering how AIPAC feels about their boy now............

Maybe a little "buyer's remorse" ?
4/9/2009 4:50:59 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
...I'm not trying to pick, but you should do some of your own research into this.  Look at how the US pushed Israel into the "land for peace" sham on the following periods of time:

Aug - Sept 1992
Aug - Sept 1993
Aug - Sept 2001
Nov. 2002
Most of the year 2005

Then look at the diasters that took placein the US  immediately following each period... (Hint: Hurricanes, floods, 9-11, tornadoes, droughts)

It's uncanny to say the least...


So you believe that Al Qaeda was acting as the messengers of God's will when they carried out their attacks?
4/9/2009 5:09:15 AM EDT
[#47]
barney boy

I couldn't care less what you think.  You're insignificant to me.  Believe what you want.  Funny how YOU attack ME when I couldn't give a shit about what YOU think.  See...you're not worth attacking.  

Attacking irrelevance is childish play, so I'll leave you alone in your angry, bitter little world.

HH

4/9/2009 5:13:51 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
you're one of God's Non-Chosen who believes the United States must sacrifice all for Israel of God will destroy us.



Jumping to extremes aren't you?

Supporting Israel doesn't mean you are sacrificing the U.S.

That is, unless you believe that ZOG crap.




No extremes here.  Read through a few of these never ending threads about supporting Israel.  There's always a handful of loons who believe that God will punish the United States if we fail to defend Israel.  As they've stated in the past, there's no limits to the extremes they feel we should go to in defense of Israel and "Gods Chosen" in order to circumvent said punishment.


I guess sometimes being right makes you a loon in the eyes of others.

4/9/2009 5:17:04 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Quoted:
...I'm not trying to pick, but you should do some of your own research into this.  Look at how the US pushed Israel into the "land for peace" sham on the following periods of time:

Aug - Sept 1992
Aug - Sept 1993
Aug - Sept 2001
Nov. 2002
Most of the year 2005

Then look at the diasters that took placein the US  immediately following each period... (Hint: Hurricanes, floods, 9-11, tornadoes, droughts)

It's uncanny to say the least...


So you believe that Al Qaeda was acting as the messengers of God's will when they carried out their attacks?


No.  I believe God lowers his hand of protection from our country when we mess with Israel.  Our enemies take care of the rest...

4/9/2009 5:19:48 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
...I'm not trying to pick, but you should do some of your own research into this.  Look at how the US pushed Israel into the "land for peace" sham on the following periods of time:

Aug - Sept 1992
Aug - Sept 1993
Aug - Sept 2001
Nov. 2002
Most of the year 2005

Then look at the diasters that took placein the US  immediately following each period... (Hint: Hurricanes, floods, 9-11, tornadoes, droughts)

It's uncanny to say the least...


So you believe that Al Qaeda was acting as the messengers of God's will when they carried out their attacks?


No.  I believe God lowers his hand of protection from our country when we mess with Israel.  Our enemies take care of the rest...



This.  Our country has and will pay a dear price for turning our backs on Isreal.  No amount of name calling or bickering will change this fact.  

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