Posted: 3/25/2009 6:22:03 PM EDT
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I guess this is where to post this... I have been considering the Army Reserve recently. I don't want a career or anything... but our neighbor that was in it says I would really enjoy it. I have thought for a while it is something I would like to try... Just so I don't look back when I'm 45 and say "Man, I wish I had tried that". Seems like an experience that would be beneficial. I have some questions though... A) This two weeks of training they say you get every year... is this just some random two weeks, or can it be scheduled? I am 16 right now, and will be 17 in September... shortly after I start my Junior year of High School. I hate missing school at all (I've kind of got a perfect attendance thing going) but a two week chunk of school missed would be nearly impossible (if not impossible) to make up. During the summer would be fantastic... but I hate to miss school. You can't go until you're 18, or 17, if your parents give you permission. The two weeks are scheduled ahead of time, and you have no say in the matter. B) If I join up... I assume they would wait until you are 18 to activate you. I turn 18 shortly after my Senior year starts... They wouldn't cut me off mid-year to go overseas or something, right? I don't want to have a month of my Senior year, two years overseas, then come back to finish High School in my early 20's. The moment you're done with Basic, you can be shipped overseas. C) I am pretty experienced with AR15s (more than just shooting them... building them, repairing them, etc.). Being very similar to an M4 carbine, would that put me in the running for an armorer position of some sort? Doubtful. D) I guess boot camp is 9 weeks... Do you have boot camp basically as soon as you join up, or do they wait until/if they activate you? The situation with this is pretty much the same as A and B... if it is scheduled wrong, it creates huge educational problems for me. You have up to a year, after you sign, to ship. It can be less if you want, but not more. E) What kind of college money is available? I read in a brochure something like $20,000.... How long do you have to stick with them to get this? Is it really $20,000... or is that the number they throw out there as a "under ideal circumstances" thing? Can this money be used towards the college of my choosing? Educational funding is not a very high priority for me wanting to try this... My parents have been doing a great job with the college-fund thing... but I figure if the Army offers it, I shouldn't turn it down. Those numbers are if you have specific skills, like knowing Arabic. F) Are there any obvious questions I should be asking that I am forgetting? Yeah, ask yourself why in the hell you want to join the Reserve when you're 17.. ETA: Not that you asked me, but unless you need the money for college, have nowhere else to turn, or are using this to acquire job skills as a substitute for college, you're a fool to enlist so early. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I guess this is where to post this... I have been considering the Army Reserve recently. I don't want a career or anything... but our neighbor that was in it says I would really enjoy it. I have thought for a while it is something I would like to try... Just so I don't look back when I'm 45 and say "Man, I wish I had tried that". Seems like an experience that would be beneficial. I have some questions though... A) This two weeks of training they say you get every year... is this just some random two weeks, or can it be scheduled? I am 16 right now, and will be 17 in September... shortly after I start my Junior year of High School. I hate missing school at all (I've kind of got a perfect attendance thing going) but a two week chunk of school missed would be nearly impossible (if not impossible) to make up. During the summer would be fantastic... but I hate to miss school. You can't go until you're 18, or 17, if your parents give you permission. The two weeks are scheduled ahead of time, and you have no say in the matter. Can't go to the training, can't sign up? It seems that if you sign up, they're going to start training you. I assume this means parental consent to enlist. B) If I join up... I assume they would wait until you are 18 to activate you. I turn 18 shortly after my Senior year starts... They wouldn't cut me off mid-year to go overseas or something, right? I don't want to have a month of my Senior year, two years overseas, then come back to finish High School in my early 20's. The moment you're done with Basic, you can be shipped overseas. No consideration as to whether or not you are currently in school? Seems rather short sighted... Throwing out college money, yet pulling people out of high school in the middle of a year... How would the school deal with that? C) I am pretty experienced with AR15s (more than just shooting them... building them, repairing them, etc.). Being very similar to an M4 carbine, would that put me in the running for an armorer position of some sort? Doubtful. That's fine... D) I guess boot camp is 9 weeks... Do you have boot camp basically as soon as you join up, or do they wait until/if they activate you? The situation with this is pretty much the same as A and B... if it is scheduled wrong, it creates huge educational problems for me. You have up to a year, after you sign, to ship. It can be less if you want, but not more. "Ship" means going to basic? OK, that would work out fine. E) What kind of college money is available? I read in a brochure something like $20,000.... How long do you have to stick with them to get this? Is it really $20,000... or is that the number they throw out there as a "under ideal circumstances" thing? Can this money be used towards the college of my choosing? Educational funding is not a very high priority for me wanting to try this... My parents have been doing a great job with the college-fund thing... but I figure if the Army offers it, I shouldn't turn it down. Those numbers are if you have specific skills, like knowing Arabic. I figured as much... Oh, well... F) Are there any obvious questions I should be asking that I am forgetting? Yeah, ask yourself why in the hell you want to join the Reserve when you're 17.. Why not? Like I said, this is something I think I should do... a good experience. You sign on for 4 years, right? OK, I will be 21 when I get out in that case... perfect time to head off to college. Looking at what I want to do... 17-21 is really the best place to fit this in. In addition, I don't see myself leaving home in less that three years to take on college, and being ready for it. I can fill the gap with the reserve... get a little discipline going on... raise a little extra college money... |
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I guess this is where to post this... I have been considering the Army Reserve recently. I don't want a career or anything... but our neighbor that was in it says I would really enjoy it. I have thought for a while it is something I would like to try... Just so I don't look back when I'm 45 and say "Man, I wish I had tried that". Seems like an experience that would be beneficial. I have some questions though... A) This two weeks of training they say you get every year... is this just some random two weeks, or can it be scheduled? I am 16 right now, and will be 17 in September... shortly after I start my Junior year of High School. I hate missing school at all (I've kind of got a perfect attendance thing going) but a two week chunk of school missed would be nearly impossible (if not impossible) to make up. During the summer would be fantastic... but I hate to miss school. You can't go until you're 18, or 17, if your parents give you permission. The two weeks are scheduled ahead of time, and you have no say in the matter. Can't go to the training, can't sign up? It seems that if you sign up, they're going to start training you. I assume this means parental consent to enlist. To sign up or leave for training, you have to at least be 17, and have your parents' permission. Otherwise, you have to wait till you're 18. B) If I join up... I assume they would wait until you are 18 to activate you. I turn 18 shortly after my Senior year starts... They wouldn't cut me off mid-year to go overseas or something, right? I don't want to have a month of my Senior year, two years overseas, then come back to finish High School in my early 20's. The moment you're done with Basic, you can be shipped overseas. No consideration as to whether or not you are currently in school? Seems rather short sighted... Throwing out college money, yet pulling people out of high school in the middle of a year... How would the school deal with that? No consideration. The Army does not give a shit about your life. However, they rarely pull people out of high school, if only because I've never heard of someone still in High School being in the military.. C) I am pretty experienced with AR15s (more than just shooting them... building them, repairing them, etc.). Being very similar to an M4 carbine, would that put me in the running for an armorer position of some sort? Doubtful. That's fine... D) I guess boot camp is 9 weeks... Do you have boot camp basically as soon as you join up, or do they wait until/if they activate you? The situation with this is pretty much the same as A and B... if it is scheduled wrong, it creates huge educational problems for me. You have up to a year, after you sign, to ship. It can be less if you want, but not more. "Ship" means going to basic? OK, that would work out fine. E) What kind of college money is available? I read in a brochure something like $20,000.... How long do you have to stick with them to get this? Is it really $20,000... or is that the number they throw out there as a "under ideal circumstances" thing? Can this money be used towards the college of my choosing? Educational funding is not a very high priority for me wanting to try this... My parents have been doing a great job with the college-fund thing... but I figure if the Army offers it, I shouldn't turn it down. Those numbers are if you have specific skills, like knowing Arabic. I figured as much... Oh, well... F) Are there any obvious questions I should be asking that I am forgetting? Yeah, ask yourself why in the hell you want to join the Reserve when you're 17.. Why not? Like I said, this is something I think I should do... a good experience. You sign on for 4 years, right? OK, I will be 21 when I get out in that case... perfect time to head off to college. Looking at what I want to do... 17-21 is really the best place to fit this in. In addition, I don't see myself leaving home in less that three years to take on college, and being ready for it. I can fill the gap with the reserve... get a little discipline going on... raise a little extra college money... Come to think of it, you won't be able to ship until you graduate high school. A diploma or GED is required. Still, college > military, every day. |
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I guess this is where to post this... I have been considering the Army Reserve recently. I don't want a career or anything... but our neighbor that was in it says I would really enjoy it. I have thought for a while it is something I would like to try... Just so I don't look back when I'm 45 and say "Man, I wish I had tried that". Seems like an experience that would be beneficial. I have some questions though... A) This two weeks of training they say you get every year... is this just some random two weeks, or can it be scheduled? I am 16 right now, and will be 17 in September... shortly after I start my Junior year of High School. I hate missing school at all (I've kind of got a perfect attendance thing going) but a two week chunk of school missed would be nearly impossible (if not impossible) to make up. During the summer would be fantastic... but I hate to miss school. You can't go until you're 18, or 17, if your parents give you permission. The two weeks are scheduled ahead of time, and you have no say in the matter. Can't go to the training, can't sign up? It seems that if you sign up, they're going to start training you. I assume this means parental consent to enlist. B) If I join up... I assume they would wait until you are 18 to activate you. I turn 18 shortly after my Senior year starts... They wouldn't cut me off mid-year to go overseas or something, right? I don't want to have a month of my Senior year, two years overseas, then come back to finish High School in my early 20's. The moment you're done with Basic, you can be shipped overseas. No consideration as to whether or not you are currently in school? Seems rather short sighted... Throwing out college money, yet pulling people out of high school in the middle of a year... How would the school deal with that? C) I am pretty experienced with AR15s (more than just shooting them... building them, repairing them, etc.). Being very similar to an M4 carbine, would that put me in the running for an armorer position of some sort? Doubtful. That's fine... D) I guess boot camp is 9 weeks... Do you have boot camp basically as soon as you join up, or do they wait until/if they activate you? The situation with this is pretty much the same as A and B... if it is scheduled wrong, it creates huge educational problems for me. You have up to a year, after you sign, to ship. It can be less if you want, but not more. "Ship" means going to basic? OK, that would work out fine. E) What kind of college money is available? I read in a brochure something like $20,000.... How long do you have to stick with them to get this? Is it really $20,000... or is that the number they throw out there as a "under ideal circumstances" thing? Can this money be used towards the college of my choosing? Educational funding is not a very high priority for me wanting to try this... My parents have been doing a great job with the college-fund thing... but I figure if the Army offers it, I shouldn't turn it down. Those numbers are if you have specific skills, like knowing Arabic. I figured as much... Oh, well... F) Are there any obvious questions I should be asking that I am forgetting? Yeah, ask yourself why in the hell you want to join the Reserve when you're 17.. Why not? Like I said, this is something I think I should do... a good experience. You sign on for 4 years, right? OK, I will be 21 when I get out in that case... perfect time to head off to college. Looking at what I want to do... 17-21 is really the best place to fit this in. In addition, I don't see myself leaving home in less that three years to take on college, and being ready for it. I can fill the gap with the reserve... get a little discipline going on... raise a little extra college money... You need parental consent to enlist if you are 17. Once you enlist you are in the delayed entry program until you ship to boot camp. This could be anywhere from a week to 1 year. 365 days is the max you can stay in the delayed entry program. You aren't going to ship to boot camp until after you graduate from High School. Delayed entry lets you test, physical, enlist, reserve a date to go to boot camp and then finish up school or fuck off for a few weeks/months until you ship out. Your best source of info will be U.S. Army Reserve Recruiter or go by a Army Reserve unit and talk to the people there. GD is full of BS in just about every "tell me about enlisting in the ___________ branch of service" <–––– 24 years active Marine Corps (3 years as a recruiter) if that is worth anything. |
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Your best source of info will be U.S. Army Reserve Recruiter or go by a Army Reserve unit and talk to the people there. GD is full of BS in just about every "tell me about enlisting in the ___________ branch of service" That is such bullshit. Any recruiter is going to be trying to get him to sign on the dotted line, with zero regard for any other considerations. While this kid seems to want it badly enough anyways, GD has offered great advice for wannabe's. Now 4chan, you'd be right, but GD is informative. ETA: Though, I'll admit I slipped up with the graduate high school stuff above, but I'm sick and groggy ATM.. |
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Your best source of info will be U.S. Army Reserve Recruiter or go by a Army Reserve unit and talk to the people there. GD is full of BS in just about every "tell me about enlisting in the ___________ branch of service" That is such bullshit. Any recruiter is going to be trying to get him to sign on the dotted line, with zero regard for any other considerations. While this kid seems to want it badly enough anyways, GD has offered great advice for wannabe's. Now 4chan, you'd be right, but GD is informative. ETA: Though, I'll admit I slipped up with the graduate high school stuff above, but I'm sick and groggy ATM.. What I posted is not bullshit. The majority of "join the military" posts are full of inaccurate information/advice. Your post proved my point, you even admitted it. What branch are you in? Active or Reserve? The majority of recruiters are out there busting their ass on a daily basis and conducting themselves in a professional manner. A few bad ones give the rest a bad reputation. Those doing the right thing don't deserve your disparaging remarks. If everyone took your advice, there would no longer be an all volunteer force. Hopefully the OP is smarter then that and goes and gets information from a credible source. I.E. Recruiter or actual Army Reservists from the Reserve unit he's thinking of joining. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Your best source of info will be U.S. Army Reserve Recruiter or go by a Army Reserve unit and talk to the people there. GD is full of BS in just about every "tell me about enlisting in the ___________ branch of service" That is such bullshit. Any recruiter is going to be trying to get him to sign on the dotted line, with zero regard for any other considerations. While this kid seems to want it badly enough anyways, GD has offered great advice for wannabe's. Now 4chan, you'd be right, but GD is informative. ETA: Though, I'll admit I slipped up with the graduate high school stuff above, but I'm sick and groggy ATM.. Well you gave bad information in your first reply. They won't mobilize him until he has completed BCT and AIT. They also will not send him overseas until he is at least 18. So he won't post pone completing high school until he returns from some deployment. |
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I appreciate your responses, guys. I plan on talking to the recruiters some more... with the same (revised) questions I have asked here. They came one day... I got their brochure... I say "Hey, This reminds me, I want to try the reserve."... Then they were gone the next day when I had thought about the questions I needed to ask. Your responses give me a good general idea, though... and that is really my goal with this thread. |
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Your best source of info will be U.S. Army Reserve Recruiter or go by a Army Reserve unit and talk to the people there. GD is full of BS in just about every "tell me about enlisting in the ___________ branch of service" That is such bullshit. Any recruiter is going to be trying to get him to sign on the dotted line, with zero regard for any other considerations. While this kid seems to want it badly enough anyways, GD has offered great advice for wannabe's. Now 4chan, you'd be right, but GD is informative. ETA: Though, I'll admit I slipped up with the graduate high school stuff above, but I'm sick and groggy ATM.. Well you gave bad information in your first reply. They won't mobilize him until he has completed BCT and AIT. They also will not send him overseas until he is at least 18. So he won't post pone completing high school until he returns from some deployment. I fucked up on the diploma thing, because I'm sick right now. They CAN mobilize him after he's completed BCT, I've seen it happen. It's rare, and it wouldn't happen now, but I know of a guy they did it to for OIF I. ETA: And no, I'm not confusing the guy for an OSUT grad or something.. |
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Your best source of info will be U.S. Army Reserve Recruiter or go by a Army Reserve unit and talk to the people there. GD is full of BS in just about every "tell me about enlisting in the ___________ branch of service" That is such bullshit. Any recruiter is going to be trying to get him to sign on the dotted line, with zero regard for any other considerations. While this kid seems to want it badly enough anyways, GD has offered great advice for wannabe's. Now 4chan, you'd be right, but GD is informative. ETA: Though, I'll admit I slipped up with the graduate high school stuff above, but I'm sick and groggy ATM.. What I posted is not bullshit. The majority of "join the military" posts are full of inaccurate information/advice. Your post proved my point, you even admitted it. What branch are you in? Active or Reserve? The majority of recruiters are out there busting their ass on a daily basis and conducting themselves in a professional manner. A few bad ones give the rest a bad reputation. Those doing the right thing don't deserve your disparaging remarks. If everyone took your advice, there would no longer be an all volunteer force. Hopefully the OP is smarter then that and goes and gets information from a credible source. I.E. Recruiter or actual Army Reservists from the Reserve unit he's thinking of joining. I'm sick, so sue me, otherwise most "Join the Military" posts have great advice in them. Maybe not the advice OP wants to hear, but great advice. I'm a former 0311. Oh I know you guys bust your ass, but your primary focus is to get them to sign, no matter what. Not all of you will lie, but you won't give them the full scoop of what they're signing up for either. Of course there would be an all volunteer force, there's always enough people who need the money, or technical training, or have no other options, or want to kill, or need the discipline/structured environment the military provides. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Your best source of info will be U.S. Army Reserve Recruiter or go by a Army Reserve unit and talk to the people there. GD is full of BS in just about every "tell me about enlisting in the ___________ branch of service" That is such bullshit. Any recruiter is going to be trying to get him to sign on the dotted line, with zero regard for any other considerations. While this kid seems to want it badly enough anyways, GD has offered great advice for wannabe's. Now 4chan, you'd be right, but GD is informative. ETA: Though, I'll admit I slipped up with the graduate high school stuff above, but I'm sick and groggy ATM.. Well you gave bad information in your first reply. They won't mobilize him until he has completed BCT and AIT. They also will not send him overseas until he is at least 18. So he won't post pone completing high school until he returns from some deployment. I fucked up on the diploma thing, because I'm sick right now. They CAN mobilize him after he's completed BCT, I've seen it happen. It's rare, and it wouldn't happen now, but I know of a guy they did it to for OIF I. You are not deployable till you get an MOS - you can not be awarded an MOS until you complete AIT. I commanded an Army Reserve company that deployed. You don't know what you think you know. |
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Your best source of info will be U.S. Army Reserve Recruiter or go by a Army Reserve unit and talk to the people there. GD is full of BS in just about every "tell me about enlisting in the ___________ branch of service" That is such bullshit. Any recruiter is going to be trying to get him to sign on the dotted line, with zero regard for any other considerations. While this kid seems to want it badly enough anyways, GD has offered great advice for wannabe's. Now 4chan, you'd be right, but GD is informative. ETA: Though, I'll admit I slipped up with the graduate high school stuff above, but I'm sick and groggy ATM.. Well you gave bad information in your first reply. They won't mobilize him until he has completed BCT and AIT. They also will not send him overseas until he is at least 18. So he won't post pone completing high school until he returns from some deployment. I fucked up on the diploma thing, because I'm sick right now. They CAN mobilize him after he's completed BCT, I've seen it happen. It's rare, and it wouldn't happen now, but I know of a guy they did it to for OIF I. You are not deployable till you get an MOS - you can not be awarded an MOS until you complete AIT. I commanded an Army Reserve company that deployed. You don't know what you think you know. I saw what I saw. He had completed BCT, but NOT AIT, and was deployed. I'm not confusing shit. I didn't believe it at first either, but that's exactly what they did, and they CAN do it. They don't, because it's retarded, but they CAN. ETA: Thinking back, maybe the regs don't allow it, but they sure as fuck did it. ETA2: His MOS was a braindead job anyways, and as my Gunny used to say, anything's possible with the right paperwork in hand.. |
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Thought I would just leave this here... Get a little more traffic. Thanks. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=77&t=850274 Most HS kids who enlist at 17 do the 'Delayed Enlistment Program', and finish HS first... You do NOT want to be in the service without graduating - your prospects are severely limited... The ones who are actually 17 while in their 1st unit usually have a late-year birthday (August or later) and went to basic the day after graduation.... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Thought I would just leave this here... Get a little more traffic. Thanks. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=77&t=850274 Most HS kids who enlist at 17 do the 'Delayed Enlistment Program', and finish HS first... You do NOT want to be in the service without graduating - your prospects are severely limited... The ones who are actually 17 while in their 1st unit usually have a late-year birthday (August or later) and went to basic the day after graduation.... I guess I qualify for "late birthday" with September.... The school situation is my primary concern. I don't want a career in the military or anything... so I really don't want to screw up high school with it, because that will likely screw my college plans up. I pretty much have the school I want to go to picked out, what I want to major in, etc. As long as they wouldn't really do anything with me until after high school (like deployment), I don't foresee any issues. If they deploy me after high school, that's OK... No reason I cannot put off college for a couple years to do that. |