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3/23/2009 1:19:41 PM EDT
Since the last one was so much fun I thought we could discuss this again. Hopefully this time we can maintain a shred of civility and keep the thread from being locked.

article in Helena Independent Record

Wolves kill goat, injure dog north of Helena
By Associated Press - 03/19/09
BOZEMAN — The state Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks has authorized federal trappers to kill two wolves after wolves killed a domestic goat and severely injured a guard dog on private land north of Helena.

Wildlife officials say they believe the Mitchell Mountain Pack, which includes five to seven wolves, was involved.

It is the third incident of wolf depredation north of Helena in less than a year. A guard dog on a ranch was killed in June and a domestic goat was killed in October.

Separately, FWP euthanized a female wolf near Gardiner due to severe mange. The wolf had been seen recently around residences in the Gardiner/Maiden Basin area and had killed some domestic chickens.

3/23/2009 1:22:43 PM EDT
[#1]
"WOLVES ARE CUTE FLUFFY AND NATURAL AND YOU MUST LEAVE THEM ALONE. THIS IS A MINOR THING. ALWAYS IS EVEN IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT"

"THIS INCIDENT PROVES WOLVES ARE A THREAT WE MUST KILL EVERY LAST ONE AND SOW THEIR LANDS WITH SALT."

There. I did the thread for you we can close it now.
3/23/2009 1:29:37 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
"WOLVES ARE CUTE FLUFFY AND NATURAL AND YOU MUST LEAVE THEM ALONE. THIS IS A MINOR THING. ALWAYS IS EVEN IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT"

"THIS INCIDENT PROVES WOLVES ARE A THREAT WE MUST KILL EVERY LAST ONE AND SOW THEIR LANDS WITH SALT."

There. I did the thread for you we can close it now.


Ha .

You're right.

No more need for discussion. However, until recently I didn't realize there was that much controversy over wolves and I want to hear what others have to say about the situation.

I've seen plenty of stickers like "Save the elk. Abate the wolf," and "Smoke a pack a day" accompanied by an illustration of a wolf with a red line through it (just saw that one today), but no stickers or argument (around MT) to the contrary.
3/23/2009 1:36:33 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
"WOLVES ARE CUTE FLUFFY AND NATURAL AND YOU MUST LEAVE THEM ALONE. THIS IS A MINOR THING. ALWAYS IS EVEN IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT AND IF WE HAD WOLVES IN NEW YORK CITY, I WOULD LOVE IT."

"THIS INCIDENT PROVES WOLVES ARE A THREAT WE MUST KILL EVERY LAST ONE AND SOW THEIR LANDS WITH SALT. IF WE HAD WOLVES IN TEXAS, I'D SSS.."

"ALL WE WANT TO DO IS REASONABLY MANAGE THE POPULATION THROUGH REGULATED HUNTING."   "SHUT UP, REASONABLE GUY FROM A STATE WITH WOLVES!"

There. I did the thread for you we can close it now.


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3/23/2009 1:47:46 PM EDT
[#4]
Predators are an important part of any ecosystem.
They can be culled as needed, but to exterminate them altogether is folly.
3/23/2009 2:00:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Hopefully the one in Gardiner passes the mange on to the ones in the park to cut down the population a bunch.

It is not if but when will a wolf get someones kids.
They have no fear of man because they are not hunted.
Wolves do need to be kept in check.
3/23/2009 2:10:58 PM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:



Quoted:

"WOLVES ARE CUTE FLUFFY AND NATURAL AND YOU MUST LEAVE THEM ALONE. THIS IS A MINOR THING. ALWAYS IS EVEN IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT AND IF WE HAD WOLVES IN NEW YORK CITY, I WOULD LOVE IT."



"THIS INCIDENT PROVES WOLVES ARE A THREAT WE MUST KILL EVERY LAST ONE AND SOW THEIR LANDS WITH SALT. IF WE HAD WOLVES IN TEXAS, I'D SSS.."



"ALL WE WANT TO DO IS REASONABLY MANAGE THE POPULATION THROUGH REGULATED HUNTING."   "SHUT UP, REASONABLE GUY FROM A STATE WITH WOLVES!"



There. I did the thread for you we can close it now.




Close


lmao, there it is.



 
3/23/2009 2:14:12 PM EDT
[#7]
Wolves will be wolves.
3/23/2009 2:18:21 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Wolves will be wolves.


3/23/2009 2:19:02 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
"WOLVES ARE CUTE FLUFFY AND NATURAL AND YOU MUST LEAVE THEM ALONE. THIS IS A MINOR THING. ALWAYS IS EVEN IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT"

"THIS INCIDENT PROVES WOLVES ARE A THREAT WE MUST KILL EVERY LAST ONE AND SOW THEIR LANDS WITH SALT."

There. I did the thread for you we can close it now.


also +1
3/23/2009 2:32:09 PM EDT
[#10]
Incidentally, the above article referring to "north of Helena" took place on the Seiben ranch -  a ranch owned and operated by the family of Senator Max Baucus.
3/23/2009 2:37:04 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Hopefully the one in Gardiner passes the mange on to the ones in the park to cut down the population a bunch.

It is not if but when will a wolf get someones kids.
They have no fear of man because they are not hunted.
Wolves do need to be kept in check.


Would you site one instance in the last 200 years of a wolf attacking a human?  Didn't think you could.
3/23/2009 2:41:04 PM EDT
[#12]
"I only hunt man"––––––––––-Jesse Ventura
3/23/2009 2:45:40 PM EDT
[#13]
What was the reason why they were all killed off years ago?

And now some people want them reintroduced.


Put them in their back yards.


3/23/2009 3:02:40 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Hopefully the one in Gardiner passes the mange on to the ones in the park to cut down the population a bunch.

It is not if but when will a wolf get someones kids.
They have no fear of man because they are not hunted.
Wolves do need to be kept in check.


Would you site one instance in the last 200 years of a wolf attacking a human?  Didn't think you could.


http://www.aws.vcn.com/wolf_attacks_on_humans.html
3/23/2009 3:10:57 PM EDT
[#15]
Not gonna bother.  Last time I had too many people try to put words in my mouth and set up straw man arguments when they lacked debating skills.  All too obvious that no one wants to debate this intelligently.
3/23/2009 3:36:12 PM EDT
[#16]


woo hoo... my favorite topic!
3/23/2009 4:36:12 PM EDT
[#17]
Simple if you want them, someone has to feed them.
3/23/2009 8:24:54 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Hopefully the one in Gardiner passes the mange on to the ones in the park to cut down the population a bunch.

It is not if but when will a wolf get someones kids.
They have no fear of man because they are not hunted.
Wolves do need to be kept in check.


Would you site one instance in the last 200 years of a wolf attacking a human?  Didn't think you could.


http://www.aws.vcn.com/wolf_attacks_on_humans.html


Well that didn't work out how he'd hoped.

I always try to politely chew ass whenever people start up the Ranger Rick version of "The wolf is more scared of you than you are of it" bullshit. I teach my kids to GTFO if they see large wild animals. Let the little hippie kids get up close and personal with large carnivores. Seriously.
3/23/2009 8:37:16 PM EDT
[#19]
kill them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3/23/2009 8:43:39 PM EDT
[#20]




Quoted:

Hopefully this time we can maintain a shred of civility and keep the thread from being locked.







3/23/2009 8:43:39 PM EDT
[#21]




Quoted:

Hopefully this time we can maintain a shred of civility and keep the thread from being locked.