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3/8/2009 9:08:40 PM EDT
Seriously- if the semi trucks stopped delivering to WalMart and your local stores, how long can you and yours last?

Food?
Water?
Heat?
ability to cook?
generate power to run a sump pump or engineered septic?
Gas to get you someplace 'better'?




I'm an apartment dweller with a Bug Out Location 200 miles away. I keep a few years worth of food on hand, but likely will have to support family with that, so maybe only a few months. Water is hard to store, but I have filters and plenty of water locally to pump clean and bring home. Heatwise, just a Kerosene heater. I think i'm in pretty good shape overall, but soon most of it won't be readily accessible as it's going to my property.
3/8/2009 9:09:45 PM EDT
[#1]
I have been living off the grid since 1800 on Friday.



As a test of my preps.





http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=17&t=621457




 
3/8/2009 9:11:00 PM EDT
[#2]
If the grid stays down, how long will you and yours be okay?
3/8/2009 9:11:52 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Seriously- if the semi trucks stopped delivering to WalMart and your local stores, how long can you and yours last?

Food?
Water?
Heat?
ability to cook?
generate power to run a sump pump or engineered septic?
Gas to get you someplace 'better'?




I'm an apartment dweller with a Bug Out Location 200 miles away. I keep a few years worth of food on hand, but likely will have to support family with that, so maybe only a few months. Water is hard to store, but I have filters and plenty of water locally to pump clean and bring home. Heatwise, just a Kerosene heater. I think i'm in pretty good shape overall, but soon most of it won't be readily accessible as it's going to my property.



I put 2+ years.  Just order all the supplies I need online.
3/8/2009 9:12:02 PM EDT
[#4]
I can last between 3 minutes and 45 minutes depending on current libido.
3/8/2009 9:13:23 PM EDT
[#5]
I live in a college dorm room, so with all my canned food, probably 2 weeks. When I'm there I have no car. So, I'm screwed, but not as screwed as everyone else who keeps no food on hand.




Now at my parents house, there's a year's supply of food, to be supplemented with game, along with a lot of water. In AZ, we don't have to worry about heating. Air conditioning might be an issue though. My parents also have a solar oven, so we can cook on any sunny day, any time of year. It works best in the summer though.

3/8/2009 9:13:27 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I can last between 3 minutes and 45 minutes depending on current libido.


Is that before or after you haven't been able to stock up on "Feminine Napkins" for a few months?
3/8/2009 9:13:56 PM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


If the grid stays down, how long will you and yours be okay?


At this point 12 months. Could stretch it to 16 to 18 if I really tried.





 
3/8/2009 9:14:56 PM EDT
[#8]
Water screws me every time on polls like this.



SoCal is basically a desert.
3/8/2009 9:15:38 PM EDT
[#9]
Right now, if power went out forever and ever, and everything came to a screeching halt, I'd be good for ~2 months or so.
3/8/2009 9:16:20 PM EDT
[#10]
I would only last a couple of hours without internet.
3/8/2009 9:17:22 PM EDT
[#11]
2 months before I have to start finding other sources of food.

But, It'd probably be smarter to start finding food before then so all the other bastards don't eat it.

3/8/2009 9:20:10 PM EDT
[#12]
The 4 of us would last a month or two, before we have to start eating crows,jackrabbits, and coyotes  
3/8/2009 9:20:19 PM EDT
[#13]
I voted for "Forever", but that depends entirely on reaching the bugout location.

Everything that I (And a select few) will need for a very long time is there.

Fresh water
Wild fruits and nuts
Lots of game and fishing
Wood stove
Xtra guns and ammo
Medical suplies

If SHTF I'm not staying around here, my town is overrun with Mexicans, white trash welfare, hood rats and Somalis.  It will be a war zone in a week.  If it all goes to hell, the kids and I are in the Jeep and making a 45-mile run for it.
3/8/2009 9:21:06 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I would only last a couple of hours without internet.


I too, would die from lack of porn.
3/8/2009 9:22:21 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Water screws me every time on polls like this.

SoCal is basically a desert.


Why not get some plastic barrels and bleach?
3/8/2009 9:23:05 PM EDT
[#16]
I guess until the AF runs out of MRE's
3/8/2009 9:25:18 PM EDT
[#17]
With or without whiskey?  It makes a difference on how I answer the poll.
3/8/2009 9:25:57 PM EDT
[#18]



Quoted:


With or without whiskey?  It makes a difference on how I answer the poll.


Whisky is better.




 
3/8/2009 9:26:52 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Water screws me every time on polls like this.

SoCal is basically a desert.



Water is an issue here also.....but I have a well so I have an 1100 gallon fresh storage tank and a lowvoltage
deep well pump that can be run from batteries charged by solar/wind.    Have tons of firewood...literally.  
Could always use more food etc. but could also start setting traps for rabbits etc.   Would not enjoy life
but could go for quite a while without a trip to a store.  Unfortunately very little in the way of food crops
grow where I live.  
3/8/2009 9:27:13 PM EDT
[#20]
A home-brew set-up is already in place at the bugout location
3/8/2009 9:27:44 PM EDT
[#21]
with just the food in the house......3 months.

With ammo in the house  to go get more food.....indefinite
3/8/2009 9:29:18 PM EDT
[#22]
4 months if I was stuck here but i have 100gal diesel in the truck and can make it to my sisters then I'm good for much longer.
3/8/2009 9:31:16 PM EDT
[#23]
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill and eat you.
3/8/2009 9:40:15 PM EDT
[#24]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Water screws me every time on polls like this.



SoCal is basically a desert.




Why not get some plastic barrels and bleach?


So i'd have maybe 100 gal of water, for 2 people, in an arid climate for eating, drinking, and hygiene/sanitation, that won't last long.  It is still only delaying the inevitable in a SHTF situation.  Now if you're talking about a localized disruption where services will be restored, then its ok, but long term, the SoCal environment simply cannot support the population.

 
3/8/2009 9:40:47 PM EDT
[#25]
Until someone kills me.
3/8/2009 9:43:23 PM EDT
[#26]
Water.  Can't go too long without it.  Got plenty of salt water around me, but I would have to boil it to collect the condensation for drinking water.  Either that or a solar still.
3/8/2009 9:44:29 PM EDT
[#27]
As far as food goes not very long. Maybe a week. Same with water. I could probably go a month with power. As the crow flies I can get to "the other side of the tracks" pretty fast. I'm sure I could find some crackheads to feed my dogs (that's a joke, or maybe not) Not sure how much ammo I would need. Depends if I am on the offense or defence. I am pretty set up for offence, defense wouldn't last forever though.

Good news is that I am right next to The Peoples Republic of Ann Arbor so there will most likely be food distribution, etc there ad no one in my county has guns so in that sense if the $h!t were to hit the fan I would be better prepared than most if it came down to having to "get the job done"

I try not to think about it much. I have lived a fairy tale life so if I had to kick off today I couldn't complain much. I don't have kids to worry about, but I sure do love my dogs. I would probably end up at the in-laws who are out in the country and they have a well and hold up with my Mom, Stepfather and Grandmother and it would be up to my two brother in laws and me to take care of any uglyness that needed to be taken care of.

Of course there are a few people on the short list I would need to pay a visit too right away though
3/8/2009 9:44:34 PM EDT
[#28]
i have river about 100 yds. from my place
3/8/2009 9:45:08 PM EDT
[#29]
Those poll answers are funny.  90% should be in the top three.

3/8/2009 9:46:15 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Water screws me every time on polls like this.

SoCal is basically a desert.



Water will screw 99% of the population.  Even if you have a creek in your backyard, what will the water quality be like 1 month into SHTF.  

If you don't have a well you are screwed.  And then you will still be screwed if you are close to a population center.
3/8/2009 9:47:50 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
... my town is overrun with Mexicans, white trash welfare, hood rats and Somalis.



Celebrate Diversity.

3/8/2009 9:47:57 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
i have river about 100 yds. from my place


Which will look like the Ganges after a month or two.  

3/8/2009 9:48:10 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
i have river about 100 yds. from my place


This. And a filter. I'm not saying that our quality of life would be great but we could probably survive for a year on what we have on hand at this moment.. We can shit in the backyard right?

3/8/2009 9:51:53 PM EDT
[#34]



Quoted:



Quoted:

i have river about 100 yds. from my place




Which will look like the Ganges after a month or two.  



http://travel.nationalgeographic.com/places/images/ga/india_ganges-river-bathing.jpg
ahahah not that many people in the area.but i also have a well





 
3/8/2009 10:16:31 PM EDT
[#35]
1 year
3/8/2009 10:20:54 PM EDT
[#36]
I have no need to depend on electricity or oil, and water is something we have in great abundance, so I figure that we can last at least two years in my current home.
3/8/2009 10:24:41 PM EDT
[#37]
If I can get to a place with enough fatties, I can live forever on long pork.
3/8/2009 10:26:31 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
I guess until the AF runs out of MRE's



The Air Force has MRE's?
3/8/2009 10:37:07 PM EDT
[#39]



Quoted:


I have been living off the grid since 1800 on Friday.





No you're not!  You're here!




 
3/9/2009 2:32:58 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
I can last between 3 minutes and 45 minutes depending on current libido.


hahaha, you beat me to it

3/9/2009 2:42:36 AM EDT
[#41]
I have no children, wife, or other dependents of any kind. I am a skilled hunter and fisher, and i enjoy primitive camping (not "primitive camp sites", actually finding a place in some woods to live).
3/9/2009 2:48:58 AM EDT
[#42]
Food?
-several months

Water?
- a couple weeks before i have to start treating lake water.

Heat?
-non issue. Could live without heating indefinately. Indoor temp rarely drops below 50 degrees.  

ability to cook?
-A few weeks before i resort to wood fires.
3/9/2009 2:56:29 AM EDT
[#43]
I'm good for a short time.
3/9/2009 3:02:55 AM EDT
[#44]
I have city water and sewage.  If I lose city water I'm pretty much fooked.  I do have some reserve but it isn't going to last horribly long.

And if the city sewage is backed up where do I send my waste?  I know where, but again, this would be an inconvenience compared to having a septic system.

Otherwise I'm good for a month or two if we behave ourselves.

My problem is getting home.  I'm 500 miles away.  If the SHTF I need to get home first.
3/9/2009 3:22:58 AM EDT
[#45]
I could probably go the first couple months alone on 400 calories a day or less.  Water is taken care of.

I'll be conservative and say I'll last 6 months, but I don't think a year is unreasonable.


- BG


3/9/2009 3:30:20 AM EDT
[#46]
We (the wife and I) could go for months. But, a couple weeks into it we would relocate to my brother in laws who is a lot more rural than us. Wood heat, well and pond out back. Lotsa game too but I would not depend on that for food. Once all our gear was combined we would do just fine for a long time.
3/9/2009 3:33:16 AM EDT
[#47]
it would be surviving the angry sheep that would get most of us , long before we starve or dehydrate.
with out leaving my current AO im good for more than a few months. The rest of what i would do and how long icould stay fed is for you guys to guess.opsec
3/9/2009 3:35:29 AM EDT
[#48]
I'd say a good year or so for food (which would vary dramatically based on how many hungry mouths from my family came calling), and indefinitely for water. I live near lots of lakes, it rains here quite a bit, and I'm on my own well.
3/9/2009 3:45:51 AM EDT
[#49]
Probably two months easy.
After that, depends on how the fish are biting (my curiosity may get the best of me, and I will finally find out what human flesh tastes like).
Seriously, water would be a bit of work, but I know how and could do it.
Food is relatively abundant, it would be the competition; not that there aren't enough resources, just not enough who know HOW to use said resources.
3/9/2009 3:55:02 AM EDT
[#50]
Ive maybe 2-3 weeks of food ,and about 30 gallons of drinking water on hand.

Thing is , I live in an apartment in the city , downtown . It's a small city compared to others , but still ...it's the city.
I hate it and probably wouldn't stay here much longer than a week

So if it started to look like it was getting bad , Id bug out to another city further North at my parents. I already have two separate paths that stay off of the highways.

I would probably stay there as I doubt I could convince my parents , whom are both retired , to go live in the woods with me
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