Posted: 3/7/2009 7:23:24 PM EDT
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I went through a license check tonite and the LEO wanted to see my CCW so he could run the numbers, I said OK and handed him my piece....he's liking my little NAA PUG and tells me its nice and is trying to take the cylinder out, and almost drops it WTF,after I kinda reflexed to catch my pistol and him asking me how to remove the cylinder he just handed it back to me a cause he couldn't figure it out.
This also happened to a buddy of mine years ago when the officer didn't know how to unload his single action Colt. I think all LEO's should be familiar with all firearms. I would feel stupid if I ask to see a persons handgun and then have to ask how to unload it. Has any body else had this happen? |
*I* would NEVER hand a LEO my CCW piece, period!  
90-something % of cops don't know shit about guns other than the one in their holster & that one may be iffy as well. What if the cop had FUBAR'd & shot himself? Think that would work well for you? 
I had a Nat. Guard gate guard ask me for my piece one night on the way to a gun club meeting. I politely told him he was NOT authorized to handle MY weapon as he did not have the proper certification showing he knew how to handle said weapon. He proceeded to wave me thru the gate at that point. 
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Odd that he would have you "present" your loaded firearm to him. Not odd around here hell the last check I went through the two young LEO's had me pull over to the side of the road just to talk about my Colt Pocketlite .380 cause they had never seen one. I don't mind talking guns with anybody but I felt they were not following procedures. Theres a lot of young rookies in our County Police Dept. |
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*I* would NEVER hand a LEO my CCW piece, period!
90-something % of cops don't know shit about guns other than the one in their holster & that one may be iffy as well. What if the cop had FUBAR'd & shot himself? Think that would work well for you?
I had a Nat. Guard gate guard ask me for my piece one night on the way to a gun club meeting. I politely told him he was NOT authorized to handle MY weapon as he did not have the proper certification showing he knew how to handle said weapon. He proceeded to wave me thru the gate at that point.
My .o2 I agree 100% but I feel like I have nothing to hide,and if I refuse then here comes the warrants.... Idiots I tell ya. |
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*I* would NEVER hand a LEO my CCW piece, period!
90-something % of cops don't know shit about guns other than the one in their holster & that one may be iffy as well. What if the cop had FUBAR'd & shot himself? Think that would work well for you?
I had a Nat. Guard gate guard ask me for my piece one night on the way to a gun club meeting. I politely told him he was NOT authorized to handle MY weapon as he did not have the proper certification showing he knew how to handle said weapon. He proceeded to wave me thru the gate at that point.
My .o2 I think you might have a problem there. If the LEO asks you to surrender your firearm to him for inspection, failure to do so would result in you being, at the very least, detained and cited. At the other end of the spectrum, you could be arrested, have your CCW revoked, and get to go to Court and explain to the Judge why you should get your firearm back. |
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Quoted: *I* would NEVER hand a LEO my CCW piece, period! 90-something % of cops don't know shit about guns other than the one in their holster & that one may be iffy as well. What if the cop had FUBAR'd & shot himself? Think that would work well for you? I had a Nat. Guard gate guard ask me for my piece one night on the way to a gun club meeting. I politely told him he was NOT authorized to handle MY weapon as he did not have the proper certification showing he knew how to handle said weapon. He proceeded to wave me thru the gate at that point. My .o2 Wait...you CHL'd on a mil base? |
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*I* would NEVER hand a LEO my CCW piece, period!
90-something % of cops don't know shit about guns other than the one in their holster & that one may be iffy as well. What if the cop had FUBAR'd & shot himself? Think that would work well for you?
I had a Nat. Guard gate guard ask me for my piece one night on the way to a gun club meeting. I politely told him he was NOT authorized to handle MY weapon as he did not have the proper certification showing he knew how to handle said weapon. He proceeded to wave me thru the gate at that point.
My .o2 I think you might have a problem there. If the LEO asks you to surrender your firearm to him for inspection, failure to do so would result in you being, at the very least, detained and cited. At the other end of the spectrum, you could be arrested, have your CCW revoked, and get to go to Court and explain to the Judge why you should get your firearm back. It's the internets - everybody is a toughguy with a law degree..... Brian |
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*I* would NEVER hand a LEO my CCW piece, period!
90-something % of cops don't know shit about guns other than the one in their holster & that one may be iffy as well. What if the cop had FUBAR'd & shot himself? Think that would work well for you?
I had a Nat. Guard gate guard ask me for my piece one night on the way to a gun club meeting. I politely told him he was NOT authorized to handle MY weapon as he did not have the proper certification showing he knew how to handle said weapon. He proceeded to wave me thru the gate at that point.
My .o2 Did you blade prior to telling him he was not authorized to handle your weapon? What kind of a certification does a gate guard need to touch a weapon? What facility was he guarding? |
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I think you might have a problem there. If the LEO asks you to surrender your firearm to him for inspection, failure to do so would result in you being, at the very least, detained and cited. At the other end of the spectrum, you could be arrested, have your CCW revoked, and get to go to Court and explain to the Judge why you should get your firearm back. A) "Inspection" for what, sir?
B) The average LEO barely knows which end of the tube the rd comes out of on his/her own gun, much less how to operate a P7M8 or other semi-exotic handgun. Exactly what will he/she hope to accomplish by said inspection? Loaded? Unloaded? Shot recently? Never been shot? C) If this sort of idiocy ever raised its head with me, *I* would politely ask said LEO to ask their supervisor to come to the spot for a second set of eyes & an explanation on what they hope to accomplish. YMMV. |
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I think all LEO's should be familiar with all firearms...... Nota job requirement. its just a tool to most police officers, no different than the pen in their pocket, and used much less often. As long as they are proficient with their issued sidearm, thats all the agency cares about. They cover basic differences in firearms in the basic school, but the newer generation of guys that never carried a wheelgun are even having problems deciphering those. |
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Did you blade prior to telling him he was not authorized to handle your weapon? What kind of a certification does a gate guard need to touch a weapon? What facility was he guarding? 
He was "guarding" a maintenance facility post-911. All they had were some trucks, a few pieces of medium earth moving equipment & some tanker trucks of varying types. REAL high classification stuff there.
I made up the "certification" BS on the spot as I figured that would make him sit up & turn on his 15 watt bulb in his head. Apparently it did as he waved me on without touching my CCW piece. 
NO ONE, & I mean NO ONE touches my CCW piece while it's loaded! Ask any Marine how many people outside his chain of command who got to fondle said Marine's rifle & you'll get a big fat ZERO. Old habits dies hard & all that, but only an idiot would arbitrarily hand a LEO their loaded CCW piece. Too many ways something completely innocent could completely FUBAR in a micro-second. YMMV. |
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I hope to never run into a "license check."
If I do, I hope to never be asked to hand over my ccw. If I am asked to hand it over I plan to ask in real simple words if the officer knows about whatever platform I am carrying and if he wants me to unload it before handing it over. I really have issues with any of this sort of thing and running the numbers to see if it is stolen irks the heck out of me. Handling firearms is when accidental discharges occur. Handling firearms is when someone who wants to cause trouble will do so and this tends to make everyone be wound up. When I got pulled over while carrying the officer just told me to leave the gun where it was and keep my hands where I had em, I just kept em on the steering wheel except for when I was getting my license or something and I told him where that was as far as what pocket it was in. Them messing with the firearm is going to cause issues. Just dropping and scratching up someone's firearm could cause issues. |
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What the heck is a license check and why do they care about your CHL and your gun? I've never run across a license check in Texas. But when I lived in SC, it was pretty common. You'll come around a curve in the road and there will be several cops setup in the road stopping traffic. It happens mostly on weekend nights. They'll check your drivers license, registration, and insurance. Also, they are looking for drunk drivers. There was no CHL when I lived in SC, so I have no experience with that part of it. It seems to contradict logic that people with a CHL need to have their carry weapon checked to see if it's stolen, yet someone with a CHL can purchase a firearm in a gun store and skip the background check. |
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In Ohio it is illegal to touch your firearm when a officer of the law stops you for official purposes. Without looking it up, I suspect that the end of the sentence should be In Ohio it is illegal to touch your firearm when a officer of the law stops you for official purposes, unless instructed to do so by the officer |
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In Ohio it is illegal to touch your firearm when a officer of the law stops you for official purposes. The end of the sentence should be: In Ohio it is illegal to touch your firearm when a officer of the law stops you for official purposes, unless instructed to do so by the officer from Ohio Attorney general's website: "If a person is stopped for a law enforcement purpose and if the person is carrying a concealed handgun as a CCW licensee, whether in a motor vehicle or not, the person shall not have or attempt to have any contact with the handgun, unless in accordance with directions given by a law enforcement officer. Violating this section of law is a felony of the fifth degree. If a person" |