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3/2/2009 8:12:44 AM EDT
The chosen one has said many times that he is going to help the middle class. What is the definition of middle class, or how much income do you have to make to be labelled as falling into this group?
3/2/2009 8:13:22 AM EDT
[#1]
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The chosen one has said many times that he is going to help the middle class. What is the definition of middle class, or how much income do you have to make to be labelled as falling into this group?


middle class =  anyone who pays taxes...
3/2/2009 8:13:28 AM EDT
[#2]
$7000-$13,999
3/2/2009 8:14:02 AM EDT
[#3]
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The chosen one has said many times that he is going to help the middle class. What is the definition of middle class, or how much income do you have to make to be labelled as falling into this group?


middle class =  anyone who pays taxes...


HA! Taxpaying is not a distinction Obama recognizes.
3/2/2009 8:14:18 AM EDT
[#4]
In today's weak dollar?
I say over $75K household income is where MC starts and ends at $150K
3/2/2009 8:15:01 AM EDT
[#5]
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The chosen one has said many times that he is going to help the middle class. What is the definition of middle class, or how much income do you have to make to be labelled as falling into this group?


middle class =  anyone who pays taxes...


No, people who pay taxes are rich.   Middle class = people on welfare, according to the filthy Marxist fuck.
3/2/2009 8:17:44 AM EDT
[#6]
When it comes time to pay taxes, I'm upper middle-class, bordering on rich.  

After I pay my taxes, I'm lower middle-class, bordering on poor.




3/2/2009 8:18:29 AM EDT
[#7]
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The chosen one has said many times that he is going to help the middle class. What is the definition of middle class, or how much income do you have to make to be labelled as falling into this group?


middle class =  anyone who pays taxes...


No, people who pay taxes are rich.   Middle class = people on welfare, according to the filthy Marxist fuck.


For government politicians, It's just an imaginary construct to perpetuate class warfare.
3/2/2009 8:20:59 AM EDT
[#8]
The middle class is composed of those households that derive their income from labor and are able afford some level of savings or investment.

Compare this with the upper class whose income is derived from investments or lower class who live paycheck to paycheck.
3/2/2009 8:22:14 AM EDT
[#9]
Someone more than six months away from homelessness if the paychecks stops.
3/2/2009 8:22:42 AM EDT
[#10]
Realisticly: ~75K - ~150K



For liberal tax cutting purposes: 8K - 9.5K
3/2/2009 8:27:34 AM EDT
[#11]
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The middle class is composed of those households that derive their income from labor and are able afford some level of savings or investment.

Compare this with the upper class whose income is derived from investments or lower class who live paycheck to paycheck.


This is probably the best definition I've seen. However Man_of_Few_Words has a good point.

3/2/2009 8:29:16 AM EDT
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The chosen one has said many times that he is going to help the middle class. What is the definition of middle class, or how much income do you have to make to be labelled as falling into this group?


Do you have a job? Do you make more than $25K household? Then you are middle class. If you make more than $50K household you are "RICH".
3/2/2009 8:29:31 AM EDT
[#13]
See below...

3/2/2009 8:30:31 AM EDT
[#14]
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The middle class is composed of those households that derive their income from labor and are able afford some level of savings or investment.

Compare this with the upper class whose income is derived from investments or lower class who live paycheck to paycheck.


I'm all three...
3/2/2009 8:32:43 AM EDT
[#15]
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The chosen one has said many times that he is going to help the middle class. What is the definition of middle class, or how much income do you have to make to be labelled as falling into this group?


Do you have a job? Do you make more than $25K household? Then you are middle class. If you make more than $50K household you are "RICH".


Fuck!  I'm rich!  

3/2/2009 8:39:33 AM EDT
[#16]
Here's what they teach at the U.S. universities regarding class divisions:

3/2/2009 9:06:43 AM EDT
[#17]
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Here's what they teach at the U.S. universities regarding class divisions:

http://www.forumjpg.com/userImages/Class_Thompson_Hickey_copy.bmp


Well, there's his 95% right there...
3/2/2009 9:12:17 AM EDT
[#18]
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The middle class is composed of those households that derive their income from labor and are able afford some level of savings or investment.

Compare this with the upper class whose income is derived from investments or lower class who live paycheck to paycheck.


I've seen a very similar broad definition recently.  The Economist had a big piece on the global "middle class" which was interesting because there's been a huge growth in the middle class in China and India in the last decade, and if world-wide recession pushes those people (in huge numbers) back down, then both countries are going to have big social problems on their hands.

3/2/2009 9:32:53 AM EDT
[#19]
middle class definition- those getting screwed from both ends.
3/2/2009 9:38:25 AM EDT
[#20]
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=838329
3/2/2009 9:39:17 AM EDT
[#21]
Lower class dummy here by the chart definition of doing "real work" and no bachelor's degree. I have made $55k + a year though doing this, working on million dollar yachts and billed out at $125/hr.
3/2/2009 9:54:40 AM EDT
[#22]
Talking about helping the middle class is a no-brainer.


Is there a clear definition anymore?  Also, besides the ultra-rich and the dirt-poor, almost everyone else identifies with the middle class even if they don't technically fit the current definition...

Working poor, want to be middle class or believe they are middle class.

Recently rich, were middle class and realize they could easily return.


It's class warfare with having the advantage of blurring the lines between the classes you are pitting against each other.  You can then draw and jump the lines without technically being a liar.


"All warfare is based on deception."
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War


3/2/2009 10:45:52 AM EDT
[#23]
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The chosen one has said many times that he is going to help the middle class. What is the definition of middle class, or how much income do you have to make to be labelled as falling into this group?


middle class =  anyone who pays taxes...


No, people who pay taxes are rich.   Middle class = people on welfare, according to the filthy Marxist fuck.


Apologies, you are correct. I omitted a key idea in my zealous need to reply quickly...

middle class = anyone who does not pay taxes...sorry
3/2/2009 11:13:10 AM EDT
[#24]
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The middle class is composed of those households that derive their income from labor and are able afford some level of savings or investment.

Compare this with the upper class whose income is derived from investments or lower class who live paycheck to paycheck.


This is probably the best definition I've seen. However Man_of_Few_Words has a good point.



That's a pretty good one.
3/2/2009 11:17:08 AM EDT
[#25]
Did you look at your 401k today? Your IRA?

Did you worry about your future today as people were getting pink slips?

Did you notice your customers have stopped calling over the past few months as you sort through your bills? Is your inventory not moving?


And finally, Did you notice a sick feeling in the deepest pit of your stomach, like you've been repeatedly kicked in the balls?



If so, you are middle class. that's how you tell.