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3/1/2009 6:16:01 PM EDT
So I got excited and found cheap ammo in both .223 and 9mm, buying 1000 rounds of each. Brown Bear 9mm and Barnaul .223. I got excited about the price, but I didn't notice the fact that they're both lacquer coated I feel a piece of my AR and M&P dying with every round that goes through it...

NEVER BUY IT (oh and I smell it too, it smells absolutely awful)
3/1/2009 6:28:07 PM EDT
[#1]
Just shoot it. Clean it. Repeat.
3/1/2009 6:29:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Ya I do, I have a question about the cleaning though. If I shot it on Friday and am going shooting again on Tuesday, is that amount of time enough to do damage if I don't clean it in between?
3/1/2009 6:30:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
So I got excited and found cheap ammo in both .223 and 9mm, buying 1000 rounds of each. Brown Bear 9mm and Barnaul .223. I got excited about the price, but I didn't notice the fact that they're both lacquer coated I feel a piece of my AR and M&P dying with every round that goes through it...

NEVER BUY IT (oh and I smell it too, it smells absolutely awful)


Man up, Samantha.
3/1/2009 6:30:18 PM EDT
[#4]
Thats a shame. i'll take it off your hands for you. I have no sense of smell and my ar can handle it
3/1/2009 6:31:56 PM EDT
[#5]
I have NEVER had a problem using lacquer coated rounds in my AR or my SKS. Just gotta clean em up good afterwards.

In fact, in my SKS I don't remember a failure to feed and lacquer Brown Bear stuff is all I use because it is often cheaper than Wolf.
3/1/2009 6:41:36 PM EDT
[#6]
My ARs do fine.  Dirtier? A little.  But I can buy a lot of cleaning gear at those prices.
3/1/2009 6:50:12 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I have NEVER had a problem using lacquer coated rounds in my AR or my SKS. Just gotta clean em up good afterwards.

In fact, in my SKS I don't remember a failure to feed and lacquer Brown Bear stuff is all I use because it is often cheaper than Wolf.


I haven't had any problems with Barnaul in my AR, I haven't shot it much tho. I have had issues with the Brown Bear 9mm in my M&P tho. I had probably about 10 rounds not feed, and 2 or 3 times the last round in the mag didn't have the power to keep my slide back with an empty mag. It was also cold outside, 20-25, could that have been the issue?
3/1/2009 6:50:50 PM EDT
[#8]
If my AR would run it I would shoot Wolf and Barnaul all day. For some reason my rifle fails to eject steel case after 30 or so rounds.  I shoot out of a Wylde chamber and I think that may have something to do with the failure to eject.
3/1/2009 6:55:46 PM EDT
[#9]
I've shot close to 3k of Brown Bear through my AR, without cleaning it since November.  Still shoots fine, but cleaning it is on the agenda real soon.
3/1/2009 6:58:03 PM EDT
[#10]
If your AR and pistol won't handle the ammo, then they are defective firearms and not worth owning.
3/1/2009 6:59:19 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I have NEVER had a problem using lacquer coated rounds in my AR or my SKS. Just gotta clean em up good afterwards.

In fact, in my SKS I don't remember a failure to feed and lacquer Brown Bear stuff is all I use because it is often cheaper than Wolf.


I haven't had any problems with Barnaul in my AR, I haven't shot it much tho. I have had issues with the Brown Bear 9mm in my M&P tho. I had probably about 10 rounds not feed, and 2 or 3 times the last round in the mag didn't have the power to keep my slide back with an empty mag. It was also cold outside, 20-25, could that have been the issue?


I think the M&P would be a different beast than my pretty loose tolerance built SKS which runs anything.

I have done some shooting in 0 to -10F at the range (didn't do it long at those temps) but it didn't affect anything except my cold fingers.

If the Brown Bear has some issues for you, why not run the bi-metal zince non lacquered Silver Bear as it is really close in price.
3/1/2009 7:04:02 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Ya I do, I have a question about the cleaning though. If I shot it on Friday and am going shooting again on Tuesday, is that amount of time enough to do damage if I don't clean it in between?


I'm not sure what you think is going to cause damage. Lacquer is not acidic or corrosive.
3/1/2009 7:05:32 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
So I got excited and found cheap ammo in both .223 and 9mm, buying 1000 rounds of each. Brown Bear 9mm and Barnaul .223. I got excited about the price, but I didn't notice the fact that they're both lacquer coated I feel a piece of my AR and M&P dying with every round that goes through it...

NEVER BUY IT (oh and I smell it too, it smells absolutely awful)


Try firing Wolf in a FA gun. Its fuckin' horribe.
3/1/2009 7:07:49 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
...why not run the bi-metal zince non lacquered Silver Bear as it is really close in price.


Your mileage may vary, but Silver Bear managed to snap the extractor in my Colt 1991A1 Compact. The case is very rough textured, and the rim is very thin, and the combo of that tore the hook right off the factory extractor. Colt was using MIM extractors at the time, true. So, after the Ed Brown Hardcore extractor I replaced the original with starting ripping the rims off the cases, I gave up on using Silver Bear at all.
3/1/2009 7:09:53 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
...why not run the bi-metal zince non lacquered Silver Bear as it is really close in price.


Your mileage may vary, but Silver Bear managed to snap the extractor in my Colt 1991A1 Compact. The case is very rough textured, and the rim is very thin, and the combo of that tore the hook right off the factory extractor. Colt was using MIM extractors at the time, true. So, after the Ed Brown Hardcore extractor I replaced the original with starting ripping the rims off the cases, I gave up on using Silver Bear at all.


Wow, I'll have to watch that as I have quite a stash of the Silver and Brown Bear stuff. It has always been too cheap to pass up on as I hate Wolf, except for their .22 match stuff.
3/1/2009 7:53:33 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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...why not run the bi-metal zince non lacquered Silver Bear as it is really close in price.


Your mileage may vary, but Silver Bear managed to snap the extractor in my Colt 1991A1 Compact. The case is very rough textured, and the rim is very thin, and the combo of that tore the hook right off the factory extractor. Colt was using MIM extractors at the time, true. So, after the Ed Brown Hardcore extractor I replaced the original with starting ripping the rims off the cases, I gave up on using Silver Bear at all.


Wow, I'll have to watch that as I have quite a stash of the Silver and Brown Bear stuff. It has always been too cheap to pass up on as I hate Wolf, except for their .22 match stuff.


I use almost all Silver Bear and Wolf, but I recently found a good price on the Barnaul so I got it. The Silver Bear is great and I have no problem with it at all. It was a good price and it feeds fine, I've never had a problem with it
3/1/2009 8:07:14 PM EDT
[#17]
It's a fucking battle-rifle, quit treating it like a little bitch.  Go out and throw it down your driveway.


PS:  The zombies don't care if they are getting shot by Wolf or not.
3/1/2009 8:23:10 PM EDT
[#18]
Man up and shoot it, Nancy

Or buy a Dillon and reload.
3/1/2009 8:40:47 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
So I got excited and found cheap ammo in both .223 and 9mm, buying 1000 rounds of each. Brown Bear 9mm and Barnaul .223. I got excited about the price, but I didn't notice the fact that they're both lacquer coated I feel a piece of my AR and M&P dying with every round that goes through it...

NEVER BUY IT (oh and I smell it too, it smells absolutely awful)


Man up, Samantha.










3/1/2009 8:41:32 PM EDT
[#20]
I have blown up 6 Colt ARs with that ammo.
3/1/2009 9:00:09 PM EDT
[#21]
Your weapons must be pussies. You're not though, right?

Shoot the stuff, clean your weapons and come up with a better way to ask if the ammo you bought is good or not.

IF you'd done some research on this site, you'd know that the ammo you used was ok. But you didn't.