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2/21/2009 10:09:45 PM EDT
Guys Im not sure it this is where this belongs or not. Mods please move if necessary. I would like a ghille suite for coyote hunting and other hunting. I would like one that will hold up yet not cost a fortune. I maybe would even like to build it myself. Do you guys have any suggestion. I have heard that if you take BDUs and put netting over them that is a good place to start. Thanks for the info.
2/21/2009 10:21:26 PM EDT
[#1]
I made one that was going to be for hunting but never used it. I used a six color desert jacket then superglued and wood glued some 1 inch fishing net then tied on some tan & brown burlap jute. I also used some desert camo netting to make it lighter than 100% burlap. For a hood I cut it off of a old M65 jacket then did the same fihsingnet base and burlap and netting. If I had to do it again I would just use the camo netting. I grew out of the jacket, its sitting under my computer desk as I type this.
2/21/2009 10:40:28 PM EDT
[#2]
You can buy kits online. I always used a cheapo from cabella's, not the real tree crap, but actual burlap attached to a net and it worked great.

I have been within 5 feet of people on several occasions where they never saw me. Me and a friend were about 14-16 and had been watching too many war/sniper films. We would go to the local park, or woods day and night, catch people's curiosity and then see if we could get out without being seen. We were only spotted once out of 20+ plus times doing this. The guy called the cops and well we hid and they could find us( I wonder why?) We had stayed for hours at a time just to wait out people.

Once we were leaving the park and we saw maintenance pulling up about 12:00 a.m. We laid in some long grass maybe 8in high 5-8 feet from the main path. They guy walked right passed us, My heart was beating so damn fast.

Disclaimer( I do not recommend this we were you stupid little shits )
2/21/2009 11:20:59 PM EDT
[#3]
military baracuda net ziptied to a bdu would work well
2/21/2009 11:21:51 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
military baracuda net ziptied to a bdu would work well
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3107/2553281510_1b82f7dfdd.jpg?v=0


Is the the SpecOps paintball mesh ghille?
2/21/2009 11:32:17 PM EDT
[#5]
i made my own, but it was a blanket insted of a suit. i bought some cheap fishnet from a pet store (the kind for decorating your wall) it was 8'x8' then i got some cheap camo burlap from walmart dont remember the size but it was 10 bucks. i cut the burlap into about 1 and a half inch strips then i cut the strips to length at around 12 inches. i then spread out the net and started tying the burlap to the net in a random pattern and spacing. it got pretty good.  in all it cost around 14 bucks to make.  i can post a pic if you guys want...............
2/22/2009 1:16:47 AM EDT
[#6]
Roll yur own man. Anyone with a shit worth of sence could make one.


Edit for speeling
2/22/2009 1:23:39 AM EDT
[#7]




Roll your own.

Cold and I made these with the Ghillieskins Cobra hoods as a base. It's perfect for coyote hunting as it's not a full blown suit to get caught on everything. I've also made one with the Viper hood for more warm weather hunting.


2/22/2009 1:33:46 AM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:


i made my own, but it was a blanket insted of a suit. i bought some cheap fishnet from a pet store (the kind for decorating your wall) it was 8'x8' then i got some cheap camo burlap from walmart dont remember the size but it was 10 bucks. i cut the burlap into about 1 and a half inch strips then i cut the strips to length at around 12 inches. i then spread out the net and started tying the burlap to the net in a random pattern and spacing. it got pretty good.  in all it cost around 14 bucks to make.  i can post a pic if you guys want...............


Wouldn't mind seeing it.



 
2/22/2009 2:19:53 AM EDT
[#9]
Ghillie suits are very individualized. Back in the 90s we were given a recommended materials sheet and a couple of pictures of what it was supposed to look and told to have it done by monday morning. The gear stores out in town around Camp Lejuene sold tried and true materials. Saigon Sam's used to have a special shelf full of shoe goo and extra sea bags. how you do it is up to you. nothing is "wrong" if it works.  Here are a couple of things I like to do.


Take a pair of old woodland cammies. Have an alteration shop cut the bottom pockets off the blouse and sew them on the sleeve.  most guys like them on the bicep but i have tried them on the forearm and like it.

buy an extra sea bag (military duffel)  
buy a gill net
jute and burlap
some spray paint
flame retardant  (i don't know where to find it, i always got it at saigon sams)
camo colored spray paint
boonie hat
Iso mat sleeping pad
carpet needles and dental floss or upholstery thread
shoe goo

I like to turn my cammies inside-out. and spraypaint them brown and green. this way if you turn it inward and roll it up the camouflage pattern is outside and all of the jute material is contained in the roll.

after the cammies are painted cut out a section of net that will drape across your shoulders and over your head. it should have sleeve like section for attaching to your sleeves. lay this over the back of the blouse and secure it with some safety pins. now begin sewing it on. I use dental floss with an upholstery needle and go around the knots. I don't do each knot, just every 4th or 5th one depending on the net size. this is incredibly tedious. enjoy!

repeat for the trousers stopping the netting around mid calf

now cut out pads from the iso mat. i like knee, thigh and forearm. use the pads you cut as templates for cutting out sections from the spare seabag. cut at least an inch bigger all the way around. now glue the pads and the sea bag cut-outs to the front of your tree suit with the shoe-goo. I like to hand sew around the edges before the shoe goo hardens. wear a glove and have some pliers standing buy. this can be difficult.

now soak all your burlap in the flame retardant. when it dries shred it and begin tying it in varying lengths to the netting. this take a long time.

when it is done attach the boonie to the hood section. i like small zip ties though the cartridge loops myself.

go hide.




2/22/2009 2:48:37 AM EDT
[#10]
Here is the 'real deal'.

You will need:

- a BDU jacket turned inside out.
- some Shoe Goo
- a hammock (pictured below IIRC) or fish net
- heavy canvas (an old GP medium works well for this)
- padding (you can use a USGI foam bedroll for this)
- 550 cord gut
- a heavy sewing needle and thimble
- burlap from sewing store


Cut canvas into pieces which will cover front of jacket (see pic). Shoe Goo these in place. When dry, reinforce around edges with 550 gut. Cut canvas pieces for elbows, cut padding for elbows, glue in place. Reinforce with 550 gut when dry.









Cut hammock so you have a piece which will cover the back of the jacket and upper arms. Shoe Goo in place. Shred [by hand] the burlap and add as needed to create your color scheme. You just take a handful and tie it in a knot around the netting. Don't use so much that you can't tie a solid knot. You can add a few pieces of 550 cord if you want. This helps in tieing on natural vegetation when you get on site.






BDU bottoms can be used to make pants as well. I'm sure you can figure out the details based on the jacket.

Plan on a lot of time to make a good one. Shredding burlap and adding the reinforcement stiching take the most time obviously.



2/22/2009 3:15:47 AM EDT
[#11]
As DvlDog said, these are greatly individualized and there is really no wrong way to make one.  If you plan on doing more upright movement or shooting from a sitting positon, you may want more burlap on the front and less of the seabag material, as you won't be worried about crawling several hundred feet at a time.

A Ghillie Cape is pretty versitile if you aren't crawling into position.  You can just wrap it or drape it where you want to cover up.  You can make one out of the cheap hammocks you can find at camping stores, and burlap.  You can make it long enough to cover you in prone position, and simply throw it over yourself when you get where your going.  You can add a hole in the middle to put your head through and wear it poncho style for stting position.

For a crawling Ghillie I actually prefer to start with coveralls because it prevents gaps in the garment for little critters to get in my clothes.  And the one piece design just seems handier to get into and out of for me.  Though it can be a pain in the butt, I preferr to stitch the netting to the garment in several places because it holds really well.

As you can see the options are limitless, none are wrong, all are personal depending on the needs of the user, and the terrain.
2/22/2009 3:22:46 AM EDT
[#12]
Build your own, you will get lots of satisfaction out of it.


2/22/2009 3:26:37 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Build your own, you will get lots of satisfaction out of it.



+1      before you use it make sures its legal in your state

2/22/2009 3:27:58 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Build your own, you will get lots of satisfaction out of it.



+1      before you use it make sures its legal in your state



SAY WHAT?!

These are illegal in some states?

what the fucking fuck?
2/22/2009 4:13:43 AM EDT
[#15]
Taggage
2/22/2009 5:06:55 AM EDT
[#16]
2/22/2009 5:20:11 AM EDT
[#17]
Remember, no smoking in your ghille suit.  Those things go up fast!
2/22/2009 7:02:44 AM EDT
[#18]
After reinforcing the elbows and knees with denim from an old pair of jeans, I cut my burlap into into 6 inch wide strips that were long enough to wrap around me.  i then cut 1 inch strips into that, so it kinda resembles a comb.  I then sew and googlue  the strips onto my cammie blouse(make sure it is a size too big) so that they overlap eachother by a few inches.  this is very tedious.  it takes forever.  But, once I finished that, I throw it in the washer and the dryer so it frazzles the burlap.  It makes it an instant bush.  then i pray painted it the way i wanted it and buried it in the ground for a couple weeks(i wanted to get rid of the paint smell).  Did the same with the trousers.  It works well.  
I like to use the two piece because they can get really hot inside and with the two piece i can shed the top when i am taking a break.  
There really isn't a wrong way and you can apply tips from all of these posts to make your own "perfect' suit.  I am really proud of the way mine came out.  if i had to do anything different, i would have stolen the "pocket movement idea' to see if i could have implimented that.
2/22/2009 7:07:55 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/THellURider/DSC_0107.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/THellURider/DSC_0109.jpg

Roll your own.

Cold and I made these with the Ghillieskins Cobra hoods as a base. It's perfect for coyote hunting as it's not a full blown suit to get caught on everything. I've also made one with the Viper hood for more warm weather hunting.





Damn, who are those two goof balls
2/22/2009 6:20:39 PM EDT
[#20]
Thanks guys once I get done cleaning up around the house and getting my gun area organized this will be my next projects. I hope this goes well as it looks pretty simple just time consuming. thanks again.
2/22/2009 8:22:30 PM EDT
[#21]
I built one.

Contact Bushrag.com and get premade body net.
Tye jute on there yourself. From bottom to top.
Theres instructions online.

Pm me if you feel need to

SS
2/22/2009 8:42:02 PM EDT
[#22]
Why do you turn the BDU jacket inside out?
2/22/2009 8:49:24 PM EDT
[#23]
So you can use the pockets.
2/22/2009 8:50:00 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
So you can use the pockets.


Ohhhhhh.
Thanks!