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2/20/2009 5:39:42 AM EDT
He will form new Israeli government.

He's not happy about iran and their shenanigens.

On a side note ....his brother was the only soldier killed during the great Raid On Entebbe in uganda.
2/20/2009 8:40:59 AM EDT
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2/20/2009 8:43:59 AM EDT
[#2]
I think I just heard "Ach-Ma-DinnerSalad's" ass just pucker-up.
2/20/2009 8:45:33 AM EDT
[#3]
The chances of Israel attacking Iran are slim.

They would have already done so.
2/20/2009 8:45:43 AM EDT
[#4]
Bibi may appoint Lieberman as Min. of Defense, and he makes Bibi look soft when it comes to Israel's enemies.

HH
2/20/2009 8:45:59 AM EDT
[#5]
Gonna be interesting.

As it was a close election, I'm wondering how much popular support he's going to have, as there are potentially very rough times ahead for them.


-K
2/20/2009 8:47:02 AM EDT
[#6]
He was in that position before and Israel's foreign policy was no more aggressive than under other Prime Ministers.
 
2/20/2009 8:48:05 AM EDT
[#7]
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The chances of Israel attacking Iran are slim.

They would have already done so.


I disagree with this.
2/20/2009 8:48:50 AM EDT
[#8]
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Gonna be interesting.

As it was a close election, I'm wondering how much popular support he's going to have, as there are potentially very rough times ahead for them.


-K


If you look at the overall majority conservative vote, I believe you'll see a lot of support for his government.
2/20/2009 8:52:05 AM EDT
[#9]
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The chances of Israel attacking Iran are slim.

They would have already done so.


Hmmmmmm...  That's all I have to say.

2/20/2009 8:59:50 AM EDT
[#10]
Finally, a good person as Prime Minister.
2/20/2009 9:04:53 AM EDT
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2/20/2009 9:07:47 AM EDT
[#12]
I've heard him in a couple of interviews over the years.  He has always struck me as a good––and smart––man.  I'm glad he's in as PM.  
2/20/2009 9:10:38 AM EDT
[#13]
He's going to have to deal with Obama
2/20/2009 9:15:39 AM EDT
[#14]
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He's going to have to deal with Obama



Ya. That's gonna be amusing.
2/20/2009 9:19:09 AM EDT
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He's going to have to deal with Obama


2/20/2009 9:19:25 AM EDT
[#16]
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He's going to have to deal with Obama



Ya. That's gonna be amusing.


You think Obama is going to invade Israel?
2/20/2009 9:22:49 AM EDT
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He's going to have to deal with Obama



Ya. That's gonna be amusing.


You think Obama is going to invade Israel?


If we invaded Israel, there really would be a civil war at home... I know alot of Jewsih people that would fight for Israel in a second. There would be bombings here, shootings, etc.
2/20/2009 9:28:43 AM EDT
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He's going to have to deal with Obama



Ya. That's gonna be amusing.


You think Obama is going to invade Israel?


If we invaded Israel, there really would be a civil war at home... I know alot of Jewsih people that would fight for Israel in a second. There would be bombings here, shootings, etc.


I highly doubt it since the majority of America elected the saviour, there aren't enough people who care about Israel anymore to stop the government.

2/20/2009 9:33:34 AM EDT
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He's going to have to deal with Obama



Ya. That's gonna be amusing.


You think Obama is going to invade Israel?


If we invaded Israel, there really would be a civil war at home... I know alot of Jewish people that would fight for Israel in a second. There would be bombings here, shootings, etc.


I highly doubt it since the majority of America elected the saviour, there aren't enough people who care about Israel anymore to stop the government.




It was reported approximately 70+% of American Jews voted for Obama.  Obviously American Jews don't give two shits about Israel, so they will NOT fight for Israel.  That idea is ludicrous.
2/20/2009 9:37:00 AM EDT
[#20]
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He's going to have to deal with Obama



Ya. That's gonna be amusing.


You think Obama is going to invade Israel?



Like most of your posts, that makes absolutely no sense.
2/20/2009 10:02:39 AM EDT
[#21]
For all the SHTF personas out there, I think this is the first true step toward a SHTF scenario worldwide. However Obama the lord and master of the world will simply smile and any future middle east conflict will be avoided.
2/20/2009 10:06:47 AM EDT
[#22]




BennyTheGnat should have Israel in their next war within 12 months.  If BTG hurries, he can be at war with Syria before we make peace with Syria but it will be tight.
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2/20/2009 10:11:11 AM EDT
[#23]
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The chances of Israel attacking Iran are slim.

They would have already done so.


I disagree with this.


Let's hope you're wrong on that...

The Izzys don't have the ability to damage Iran's nuke program by MILITARY means (covert sabotage is another story)...

All they would do is piss off Iran, resulting in trouble in the Gulf & another oil shock...

Further, Obama would likely not send the required USN & USMC assets to the Gulf to clean up Israel's mess (eg keep the straits open & the oil safe) until it was too late...
2/20/2009 10:13:56 AM EDT
[#24]




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The chances of Israel attacking Iran are slim.



They would have already done so.




I disagree with this.




Let's hope you're wrong on that...



The Izzys don't have the ability to damage Iran's nuke program by MILITARY means (covert sabotage is another story)...



All they would do is piss off Iran, resulting in trouble in the Gulf & another oil shock...



Further, Obama would likely not send the required USN & USMC assets to the Gulf to clean up Israel's mess (eg keep the straits open & the oil safe) until it was too late...






resulting in trouble in the Gulf & another oil shock...




Dear GOD .................for the second time in recorded history I agree with Dave_A !!!
5sub
2/20/2009 10:22:07 AM EDT
[#25]
It wont be long before the land of Moab  sees pillars of smoke..

2/20/2009 10:24:01 AM EDT
[#26]
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BennyTheGnat should have Israel in their next war within 12 months.  If BTG hurries, he can be at war with Syria before we make peace with Syria but it will be tight.



5sub


This post was like the sunrise.

2/20/2009 10:38:20 AM EDT
[#27]




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BennyTheGnat should have Israel in their next war within 12 months. If BTG hurries, he can be at war with Syria before we make peace with Syria but it will be tight.
5sub




This post was like the sunrise.








2/20/2009 10:44:45 AM EDT
[#28]
Looking forward to seeing the American news media and administration horrified after the bombings of Iranian facilities.
2/20/2009 10:48:48 AM EDT
[#29]
I know his cousin's wife pretty well.
2/20/2009 10:54:00 AM EDT
[#30]
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Looking forward to seeing the American news media and administration horrified after the bombings of Iranian facilities.


Will they bring back Peter Arnette and the "baby milk plant " ?

2/20/2009 10:54:19 AM EDT
[#31]




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Looking forward to seeing the American news media and administration horrified after the bombings of Iranian facilities.




Then you should 'look forward to' the fighting in US streets 30 days, or less, after the Muslim countries shut down the oil supply.



SHTF ?? You* will have it.
5sub
*Should read:  WE will have it.  If it was just you, and those like you, I wouldn't give a shit.
2/20/2009 10:57:27 AM EDT
[#32]
I was glad he won. I hope he is able to put together a stable and strong government.
2/20/2009 11:00:08 AM EDT
[#33]
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Looking forward to seeing the American news media and administration horrified after the bombings of Iranian facilities.



While I would like to see that happen, I don't think any overt military action will happen, at lest for the next few years.
2/20/2009 11:06:34 AM EDT
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Looking forward to seeing the American news media and administration horrified after the bombings of Iranian facilities.


Then you should 'look forward to' the fighting in US streets 30 days, or less, after the Muslim countries shut down the oil supply.

SHTF ?? You* will have it.



5sub



*Should read:  WE will have it.  If it was just you, and those like you, I wouldn't give a shit.




Any nuke would be used by Iran as leverage against there middle eastern neighbors as well.  I doubt they want Iran to have nukes either.
2/20/2009 11:08:53 AM EDT
[#35]
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Looking forward to seeing the American news media and administration horrified after the bombings of Iranian facilities.


Then you should 'look forward to' the fighting in US streets 30 days, or less, after the Muslim countries shut down the oil supply.

SHTF ?? You* will have it.



5sub



*Should read:  WE will have it.  If it was just you, and those like you, I wouldn't give a shit.


Most of our oil doesn't come from the Middle East. The top sources of US crude oil imports for December were Canada (1.994 million barrels per day), Saudi Arabia (1.370 million barrels per day), Mexico (1.104 million barrels per day), Venezuela (1.006 million barrels per day), and Nigeria (0.840 million barrels per day).  Hurray for Google!

2/20/2009 11:10:27 AM EDT
[#36]
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Looking forward to seeing the American news media and administration horrified after the bombings of Iranian facilities.



While I would like to see that happen, I don't think any overt military action will happen, at lest for the next few years.




IIRC Reagan's initial response was "They did what?" when the Israelis hit Iraq.  Israel using force will be no surprise to anyone.  I think that after Georgia and now the recent U.S. election they cannot count on the U.S. for any real support.  I'm guessing it will not be long before dear leader yanks the rug out from under them.
2/20/2009 11:11:26 AM EDT
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Looking forward to seeing the American news media and administration horrified after the bombings of Iranian facilities.




Then you should 'look forward to' the fighting in US streets 30 days, or less, after the Muslim countries shut down the oil supply.



SHTF ?? You* will have it.
5sub
*Should read: WE will have it. If it was just you, and those like you, I wouldn't give a shit.




Most of our oil doesn't come from the Middle East. The top sources of US crude oil imports for December were Canada (1.994 million barrels per day), Saudi Arabia (1.370 million barrels per day), Mexico (1.104 million barrels per day), Venezuela (1.006 million barrels per day), and Nigeria (0.840 million barrels per day). Hurray for Google!







Both demand and supply are world wide.  Don't think even for a second that China and Europe will stand by and starve.
5sub
2/20/2009 11:12:16 AM EDT
[#38]
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Looking forward to seeing the American news media and administration horrified after the bombings of Iranian facilities.


Then you should 'look forward to' the fighting in US streets 30 days, or less, after the Muslim countries shut down the oil supply.

SHTF ?? You* will have it.



5sub



*Should read:  WE will have it.  If it was just you, and those like you, I wouldn't give a shit.


Most of our oil doesn't come from the Middle East. The top sources of US crude oil imports for December were Canada (1.994 million barrels per day), Saudi Arabia (1.370 million barrels per day), Mexico (1.104 million barrels per day), Venezuela (1.006 million barrels per day), and Nigeria (0.840 million barrels per day).  Hurray for Google!




Because disrupting ~20% of our import sources wouldn't have a noticeable effect on the US, to say nothing of the rest of the world.
2/20/2009 11:14:01 AM EDT
[#39]
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Looking forward to seeing the American news media and administration horrified after the bombings of Iranian facilities.


Then you should 'look forward to' the fighting in US streets 30 days, or less, after the Muslim countries shut down the oil supply.

SHTF ?? You* will have it.



5sub



*Should read:  WE will have it.  If it was just you, and those like you, I wouldn't give a shit.


Most of our oil doesn't come from the Middle East. The top sources of US crude oil imports for December were Canada (1.994 million barrels per day), Saudi Arabia (1.370 million barrels per day), Mexico (1.104 million barrels per day), Venezuela (1.006 million barrels per day), and Nigeria (0.840 million barrels per day).  Hurray for Google!




Because disrupting ~20% of our import sources wouldn't have a noticeable effect on the US, to say nothing of the rest of the world.


We have oil here, lots of it.  This may force the issue.

2/20/2009 11:16:13 AM EDT
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Looking forward to seeing the American news media and administration horrified after the bombings of Iranian facilities.




Then you should 'look forward to' the fighting in US streets 30 days, or less, after the Muslim countries shut down the oil supply.



SHTF ?? You* will have it.
5sub
*Should read: WE will have it. If it was just you, and those like you, I wouldn't give a shit.




Most of our oil doesn't come from the Middle East. The top sources of US crude oil imports for December were Canada (1.994 million barrels per day), Saudi Arabia (1.370 million barrels per day), Mexico (1.104 million barrels per day), Venezuela (1.006 million barrels per day), and Nigeria (0.840 million barrels per day). Hurray for Google!









Because disrupting ~20% of our import sources wouldn't have a noticeable effect on the US, to say nothing of the rest of the world.




We have oil here, lots of it. This may force the issue.





NOT possible to produce ouselves out of trouble any longer.  NOT POSSIBLE.
5sub

2/20/2009 11:16:31 AM EDT
[#41]
I really don't see Bibi being any more war-like than most of the other Israeli PMs. I certainly don't see him being the loose cannon some seem to be suggesting he is. He served in this position once before and he really wasn't all that bad. I don't think he will be any more likely to lead Israel into a war than Olmert actually. Of course the biggest difference is if a war comes, Bibi will do a 100x better job of seeing it through and conducting it than Olmert could ever do. As such, I view him as a much stronger leader for Israel. But I certainly do not think his being elected means war is imminent, at least not any more so than is usual for this region of the world.
2/20/2009 11:16:52 AM EDT
[#42]
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Looking forward to seeing the American news media and administration horrified after the bombings of Iranian facilities.


Then you should 'look forward to' the fighting in US streets 30 days, or less, after the Muslim countries shut down the oil supply.

SHTF ?? You* will have it.



5sub



*Should read:  WE will have it.  If it was just you, and those like you, I wouldn't give a shit.


Most of our oil doesn't come from the Middle East. The top sources of US crude oil imports for December were Canada (1.994 million barrels per day), Saudi Arabia (1.370 million barrels per day), Mexico (1.104 million barrels per day), Venezuela (1.006 million barrels per day), and Nigeria (0.840 million barrels per day).  Hurray for Google!




Because disrupting ~20% of our import sources wouldn't have a noticeable effect on the US, to say nothing of the rest of the world.


We have oil here, lots of it.  This may force the issue.




I don't think we have anything near the capacity domestically to make up for imports from SA/Iraq/Kuwait. And even if we did, it takes years to get a field up to full production.

It would be a pure catastrophe.
2/20/2009 11:19:55 AM EDT
[#43]
Bennythenut will be getting a phone call shortly reminding him who holds the leash



Benjamin Netanyahu dreamed of a comeback - now it may give him nightmares
The Likud leader is on track to be Israel's next PM, but his plans already need rewriting, says David Blair.

By David Blair
Last Updated: 6:50PM GMT 19 Feb 2009
Comments 1 | Comment on this article

Israel is a land of comebacks. Ten years ago, Benjamin Netanyahu was consigned to the political wilderness when his first premiership ended in a crushing election defeat. Today, his fortunes have been transformed and he stands on the threshold of becoming prime minister once again.

Yet he may have mixed feelings about this prospect. Although President Shimon Peres will probably invite him to form Israel's next government, crucial elements of Mr Netanyahu's political game plan have already turned to dust. He wanted to be the clear winner of this month's general election; instead he came second, with 27 seats, and the only reason for his possible accession to the premiership is that, taken as a whole, the Right-wing block of parties won an overall majority in the parliament, or Knesset.

Moreover, Mr Netanyahu told every audience throughout the campaign that he wanted to lead a broad government, with key positions for his rivals in the centre of Israeli politics, notably Tzipi Livni from the Kadima party. This would have given him a wide base of support and, crucially, much easier relations with President Barack Obama's administration.

Instead, Miss Livni has made it clear that she will not join any government that Mr Netanyahu leads. She is in no mood to do her rival any favours. When he receives the call from President Peres, Mr Netanyahu will be left with a single, deeply unappealing option: to form a coalition consisting only of the hardest of the hard Right.

Put simply, Israel now stands on the brink of having a government filled with the country's most uncompromising, intractable hard-liners. Mr Netanyahu and his Likud party would be the most moderate members of this cabinet.
The Israeli administration that could emerge in the next few weeks will be pledged to keeping the Golan Heights, thereby squashing any chance of peace with Syria. It will also be devoted to retaining Jerusalem as Israel's undivided capital, thus sabotaging any possible settlement with the Palestinians. In a gesture of moderation, Mr Netanyahu has promised not to build any more Jewish settlements on the occupied West Bank, but nor will he dismantle any existing ones.

If such a government were formed, Mr Obama's quest for peace in the Middle East would begin to look like a fool's errand. America's ambition to broker an Israeli-Palestinian settlement would not only face the rejectionism of Hamas, Syria and Iran. It would also collide with the intransigence of Israel's new leaders.

There is a precedent for this. During his last premiership, between 1996 and 1999, Mr Netanyahu endured poisonous relations with the Clinton White House. Just how bad things were has only been revealed in the memoirs of the American officials who were directly involved. Dennis Ross, who was President Clinton's Middle East envoy, wrote in The Missing Peace that his boss would routinely "yell" at Israel's shifty and untrustworthy prime minister.

Mr Netanyahu managed to infuriate Mr Clinton during their very first meeting in 1996, according to Aaron David Miller, the deputy envoy. In his book, The Much Too Promised Land, Mr Miller recalls how the Israeli opened the session with a long, tendentious lecture on the Arab-Israeli conflict, leading Mr Clinton to ask: "Who does he think he is? Who's the superpower here?"

The memoirs of Joe Lockhart, who was the White House spokesman, offer a more succinct verdict on Mr Netanyahu. The Israeli leader was a "liar and a cheat" and "one of the most obnoxious individuals".

When Mr Netanyahu faced re-election in 1999, the Clinton White House made no secret of its desire to see him beaten. James Carville, who masterminded Mr Clinton's two campaign victories, flew to Israel to work for Mr Netanyahu's opponent, Ehud Barak of the Labour party. He duly won the contest.

All this will weigh heavily on Mr Netanyahu as he contemplates his new premiership. In Israel, he is known as the country's most Americanised politician, educated at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a veteran of service in New York, where he made his name as Israel's ambassador to the United Nations. Above all, Mr Netanyahu knows the folly of alienating Washington and he will do his utmost to avoid a breach with Mr Obama.

But his predicament may soon become impossible: Mr Netanyahu risks being caught between an American administration which may push him to compromise with the Palestinians and possibly the Syrians; and his Right-wing coalition partners who will topple him if he does.

There is another, lesser known force at work here. Mr Netanyahu is greatly influenced by his father, a venerable historian and Zionist intellectual. Benzion Netanyahu, who turns 99 this year, still looks over his son's shoulder and urges him never to compromise on the dream of a Greater Israel, embracing all the land taken in the Six Day War of 1967.

Pity the younger Netanyahu, pulled towards a compromise by America and tugged in the direction of intransigence by his coalition allies and his revered father. The prospect of becoming prime minister can never have seemed so bitter.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/4699950/Benjamin-Netanyahu-dreamed-of-a-comeback––-now-it-may-give-him-nightmares.html
2/20/2009 11:20:47 AM EDT
[#44]


I watch in awe those who would economically destroy not only my country - the USA - but would also applaud actions that would make the State of Israel no longer economically viable.
5sub
2/20/2009 11:21:19 AM EDT
[#45]
How the heck does Israeli politics work...?

Last I heard, Zippy won.
2/20/2009 11:22:25 AM EDT
[#46]
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The chances of Israel attacking Iran are slim good..

They would have already done so.


I disagree with this.


This They have not become the pussy that our country has turned into, they will dish out a ass whopping with our help or not.
2/20/2009 11:23:53 AM EDT
[#47]




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I've heard him in a couple of interviews over the years. He has always struck me as a good––and smart––man. I'm glad he's in as PM.




I will save and treasure this post.
5sub
2/20/2009 11:25:01 AM EDT
[#48]
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The chances of Israel attacking Iran are slim good..

They would have already done so.


I disagree with this.


This They have not become the pussy that our country has turned into, they will dish out a ass whopping with our help or not.



Keep telling yourself that.
2/20/2009 11:25:25 AM EDT
[#49]
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He's going to have to deal with Obama




He would tell obama to fuck off like they did to the U.N. They are not a country you want to fuck with. They match up really well with this quote from swordfish. Gabriel: Anyone who impinges on America's freedom. Terrorist states, Stanley. Someone must bring their war to them. They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans.
2/20/2009 11:25:50 AM EDT
[#50]
Who cares?  F them.  Lieberman and Emmanuel too.  What about our interests?  Guess they went down with the USS Liberty.


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