[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Three US Senators wanted (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 2/9/2009 6:54:32 AM EDT
Turn 'em in if you find 'em 
Republican Defectors Facing Backlash for Stimulus Support
Sunday, February 8, 2009 7:39 PM By: Tim Collie Three liberal Republican senators — Sens. Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe of Maine, and Pennsylvania's Sen. Arlen Specter — who pledged their support this weekend to President Barack Obama’s massive stimulus bill — are drawing the wrath of many conservatives. As news filtered through the media that a "deal" had been cut with the defecting GOP Senators — giving Democrats the 60-plus votes they need to overcome a Republican filibuster — Republican officials and pundits expressed outrage. The bolting senators cited soaring unemployment numbers, the country's worsening recession and the fact they cut about $100 billion off of the Senate Democrats' proposed plan as key factors for their decision to betray the GOP Senate caucus to join with the Democrats. But critics note that the Democratic "compromise" plan comes in at $827 billion — $8 billion more in spending than the already bloated House bill that called for $819 billion in new spending. They also note the so-called stimulus bill offers little immediate relief to the economy. According to a Congressional Budget Office report issued last week, only a fraction of the stimulus will be spent in 2009. Though weekends are noted for slow news cycles, Collins, Snowe, and Specter already are finding they are under hostile fire, lambasted on conservative Web sites throughout the weekend and the subjects of angry calls by many of their constituents, according to reports. “Arlen Specter is DONE,” wrote a blogger named steelfish on the FreeRepublic Web site. “He won his last primary by less than 1 percent against a real conservative of Pat Toomey. And only because the President Bush came to PA and campaigned for him. He is DONE.” Specter is up for re-election in 2010. Washington Republican strategists tell Newsmax this weekend that Specter's defection has sealed the deal: he will face a primary for the GOP nomination. "We don't care if we lose the Pennsylvania Senate seat to the Democrats," one Washington strategist told Newsmax. "Better to remove Fifth columnists from the party." The sentiment was echoed in chat rooms and blogs across the web. “They are frauds. RINOS" Republicans in Name Only, wrote a blogger named Croupier101 on the Fox News blog site. On TV news shows Sunday, their Republican colleagues distanced themselves from the defecting troika –– arguing that the small GOP support for the plan did not suggest Congressional Democrats or the White House sought a bipartisan stimulus. "This agreement is not bipartisan," Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., told CBS' "Face the Nation." "I've been in bipartisan agreements, many. This is three Republican senators. Every Republican congressman voted against it in the House, plus Democrats. And all but three Republicans stayed together on this. That's not bipartisanship. That's just picking off a couple of senators," McCain said. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said the trio’s support must have been disappointing to Obama, who has staked much on his ostensible ability to transcend the partisan divide. "Having three Republicans, potentially, support it in the Senate out of 535 members of Congress is hardly a bipartisan effort. I think it's a disappointment — surely must be for President Obama," Cornyn told "FOX News Sunday." He added he fully expects the bill to pass "with almost exclusively Democratic support." The three were the target of a furious national campaign by liberal groups, who besieged their offices with phone calls and emails urging them to support the stimulus plan. Without Democrats controlling a supermajority of 60 votes in the Senate, the trio's support was essential in advancing the contentious plan to a final vote next week. Their help more than likely will result in pushing the stimulus over the finish line. In a video posted on YouTube, Republican Rep. Ron Paul said the three “caved in and went with the Democrats.” The former presidential candidate, who has a sizable libertarian following on the Internet, especially among college students, praised his fellow House Republicans for unanimously opposing the stimulus. But he lamented that after eight years of the massive spending done under the Bush administration, Republican opposition was too little, too late. "It is like they're born-again budget conservatives," Paul said. "Where were we in the past eight years, when we could have done something? And you see our last eight years that has set this situation up. So we can't blame the Democrats for the conditions we have. "We have to blame both parties and presidents of the last several decades to have generated this huge government." The stimulus package, which is expected to come in at about $827 billion when the Senate votes, includes tax cuts and credits and spending on infrastructure, education and other projects that supporters say will create and save jobs. But critics contend the stimulus is nothing more than a laundry list of political payback to groups that supported the Democrats in the last election. They note that less than 5 percent of the spending goes to infrastructure projects. Collins said she broke ranks with her party because of the progress congressional negotiators had made on the bill. "Well, I know that some of my Republican colleagues are unhappy with the position that I've taken," Collins told reporters Saturday. "I hope they will look at the fact that we were able to cut $110 billion of unnecessary spending from this bill. I think that's a good accomplishment. I also think that it's important that we do pass a stimulus bill to help turn the economy around." But Snowe and Specter have kept a low profile since the deal was struck. Despite their huge role, none made the rounds of the Sunday talk shows. Specter said Friday night that the agreement wasn't perfect but it was necessary. That assertion was greeted with wild derision on the Internet and with veiled scorn by other Republican leaders. Julie Ann O'Brien, executive director of the Maine Republican Party, said she already has received plenty of e-mails from people across the country, the majority scolding the two Senators for their support of the bill. "We have heard from both sides," she told FOXNews.com. "We've heard from those who are pleased that Sen. Collins, in particular, has been willing to play and negotiate. And there are others who feel strongly that they are not acting like Republicans are supposed to act." O'Brien doesn't anticipate any local political fallout for Snowe or Collins, noting that both won't face re-election for several years and that voters are familiar with them. "People know what they're getting when they vote for them," she said. "They lean conservative on most issues — that's why they're Republicans. But they really do, I feel, do what is right — not politically right but morally right." On Sunday, a liberal, union-supported issue advocacy group initially founded in 2005 to rally against President Bush’s Social Security reform plan was praising the three in ads in Maine and Pennsylvania. "Senators Snowe and Collins have worked with President Obama and other senators to reach agreement on a plan that has support from a broad range of groups, including the US Chamber of Commerce and organized labor," says the version of the ad in Maine. "Call Senators Snowe and Collins today at 202-224-3121. Thank them for their leadership and tell them to keep fighting for a plan to get our economy moving again." But Collins, at least, has left herself some wiggle room on the final bill that emerges after House-Senate negotiations. "Well, I know that some of my Republican colleagues are unhappy with the position that I've taken," Collins told FOX News. "I hope they will look at the fact that we were able to cut $110 billion of unnecessary spending from this bill. I think that's a good accomplishment.” Yet she conceded that if a bill comes back from the conference committee with the House "once again bloated with wasteful spending and it's too expensive, then I'll vote against it." Source |
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My daughter (8 years old) did not vote for them or Obama. Can someone please tell me why the fuck they are spending HER money that she has not even had a chance to come of age and earn yet?  Because in a socialist world, its not HER money... Its OUR money... get with the program will ya? 
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We have entered a world where businesses, banks and individuals are not allowed to fail.
Kids can't come in second or not make the team anymore. Businesses that are dependent on consumer debt HAVE TO BE ALLOWED to fail. These Senators are wrong and the bail out mentality is wrong. |
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We have entered a world where businesses, banks and individuals are not allowed to fail. Kids can't come in second or not make the team anymore. Businesses that are dependent on consumer debt HAVE TO BE ALLOWED to fail. These Senators are wrong and the bail out mentality is wrong. I agree 101% with what you said. |
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http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/30085729.html
http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/020909kvue_govbailout-km.33eebab9.html http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/29/senate-s-chip-roll-call-vote-9-bo-republicans-vote-for-raising-taxes-in-a-recession/ Here are some links on Kay Bailey Hutchison. ETA: She may not be as bad as some, but she is still a RINO in my opinion. |
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http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/30085729.html http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/020909kvue_govbailout-km.33eebab9.html http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/29/senate-s-chip-roll-call-vote-9-bo-republicans-vote-for-raising-taxes-in-a-recession/ Here are some links on Kay Bailey Hutchison. ETA: She may not be as bad as some, but she is still a RINO in my opinion. None of which have anything to do with the topic under discussion. As to her being a RINO, I 'll not disagree, but she is not voting for this bill that we are discussing. |
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Hopefully voters will be reminded of it when their seat comes up for election. They will all be replaced with democrats on the next run anyway. Pretty soon there will not be a sitting credible Republican in the Northeast. A few RINOs got outed in favor of lefties last election. I believe Lincoln Chaffee was the most notable. |
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Arlen Spectre always has been a jackazz and there is no one in the State of Pennsylvania that's surprised he went to the Democrats. Nobody.
Socialism has been seeping out of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh to all parts of Pennsylvania and along with it the debt and taxes to the dictatorship that it is today with Ed Rendell. |
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http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/30085729.html http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/020909kvue_govbailout-km.33eebab9.html http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/29/senate-s-chip-roll-call-vote-9-bo-republicans-vote-for-raising-taxes-in-a-recession/ Here are some links on Kay Bailey Hutchison. ETA: She may not be as bad as some, but she is still a RINO in my opinion. None of which have anything to do with the topic under discussion. As to her being a RINO, I 'll not disagree, but she is not voting for this bill that we are discussing. It would not suprise me if she flipped right at the end. |
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Sen. Specter 202-224-4254
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/30085729.html http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/020909kvue_govbailout-km.33eebab9.html http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/29/senate-s-chip-roll-call-vote-9-bo-republicans-vote-for-raising-taxes-in-a-recession/ Here are some links on Kay Bailey Hutchison. ETA: She may not be as bad as some, but she is still a RINO in my opinion. None of which have anything to do with the topic under discussion. As to her being a RINO, I 'll not disagree, but she is not voting for this bill that we are discussing. It would not suprise me if she flipped right at the end. You're welcome to start your own thread reagrding that exact thing. Don't hijack this thread with completely unsubstantiated bullshit. (If you're a Perry shill this kinda crap doesn't help). |
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http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/30085729.html http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/020909kvue_govbailout-km.33eebab9.html http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/29/senate-s-chip-roll-call-vote-9-bo-republicans-vote-for-raising-taxes-in-a-recession/ Here are some links on Kay Bailey Hutchison. ETA: She may not be as bad as some, but she is still a RINO in my opinion. None of which have anything to do with the topic under discussion. As to her being a RINO, I 'll not disagree, but she is not voting for this bill that we are discussing. It would not suprise me if she flipped right at the end. You're welcome to start your own thread reagrding that exact thing. Don't hijack this thread with completely unsubstantiated bullshit. (If you're a Perry shill this kinda crap doesn't help). Exactly. My understanding is that Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison is holding the line on the stimulus vote. |
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if in fact they do vote for and support the new FUCK-US-ulous bill, fox news will give out their contact info and we all need to just keep calling and bugging the shit out of them!!! its just bullshit those funcking sellouts!!!!!! Their contact information is already available. |
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They are both from Maine and believe me I will remember the traitors on the day of elections.
This bill is a disgrace and should be stripped from the books. Problem is Congress is in such a big hurry to make NObama look like a hero that the add their pork and push it through. I am wondering if this country will last 4 more years. |
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We have entered a world where businesses, banks and individuals are not allowed to fail. Kids can't come in second or not make the team anymore. Businesses that are dependent on consumer debt HAVE TO BE ALLOWED to fail. These Senators are wrong and the bail out mentality is wrong. Apparently, failure is not an option any longer. Great....WE'RE ALL WINNERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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The republican party did this to itself. The Republican political machine was behind Specter, who won by less than 2% of the vote when he was challenged by an actual conservative, Pat Toomey in the 2004 primary. Pat (a true gun guy) would have won if not for the nra supporting the rino specter. |
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Those 3 on the Wanted poster should be voted out when their time is up. These 3 represent the trash that needs to be cleaned up in D.C. HH Honestly our Government as a whole needs to go, they've all failed on a monunmental scale never seen before. If Gov't were big business, these fuckers would have received their pink slips years ago. Term limits need to come into play, thats a big part of the problem, these assholes like Specter get stale and forgot who the fuck they're supposed to be working for, apparently something they ALL lose sight of. |
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Quoted: i blame sarah palin Windfall profits taxing, redistribute "Greedy Oil Company" (her words, not mine) money to "deserving" Alaska residents, bank bailout supporting, tax credit for healthcare even for people who don't pay taxes, employer health benefits now-taxable as income Sarah Palin? You mean that RINO? Sure, I'll throw her under the bus.  |
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http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/30085729.html http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/020909kvue_govbailout-km.33eebab9.html http://michellemalkin.com/2009/01/29/senate-s-chip-roll-call-vote-9-bo-republicans-vote-for-raising-taxes-in-a-recession/ Here are some links on Kay Bailey Hutchison. ETA: She may not be as bad as some, but she is still a RINO in my opinion. None of which have anything to do with the topic under discussion. As to her being a RINO, I 'll not disagree, but she is not voting for this bill that we are discussing. It would not suprise me if she flipped right at the end. You're welcome to start your own thread reagrding that exact thing. Don't hijack this thread with completely unsubstantiated bullshit. (If you're a Perry shill this kinda crap doesn't help). Exactly. My understanding is that Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison is holding the line on the stimulus vote. She said she's voting against it but said Texas should take whatever money if offered to us if it passes, she knows it will pass so she's playing the game of being against it but keeping the goodies. She definetly believes in the "Equal oppurtunity for all, special privileges for me" mentality
Even though he ain't a saint himself I hope Gov. Perry cleans her clock in the primary! |
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We should kick them out of the party in the meantime.
[email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Here in Tennessee the Republicans kicked someone out of the party today. |
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"We don't care if we lose the Pennsylvania Senate seat to the Democrats," one Washington strategist told Newsmax. "Better to remove Fifth columnists from the party."
He wouldn't last long here. Many RINO apologists/accommodationists on this site. ^ Truth. |