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1/22/2009 5:53:50 PM EDT
I am looking for the following:

Medium size
Good with kids and other pets
Loyal
Protective but not aggressive
Intelligent


Any suggestions?


We have a small yard that I can fence and I will likely install a doggies door.  Assume that this will primarily be an inside dog with walks in the morning and night.  Also, we will be gone most of the day at work.  I know that leaving the smarter breads alone for eight hours can be bad.  

1/22/2009 5:59:59 PM EDT
[#1]
Small Yellow Lab
1/22/2009 6:01:22 PM EDT
[#2]
Border Collie without a doubt.  They get an A+ in all of your criteria.
1/22/2009 6:01:32 PM EDT
[#3]
Boxer, but they need a decent amount of exercise
1/22/2009 6:02:02 PM EDT
[#4]
BEAGLE!!

Smart (although stubborn)

GREAT with kids.

Barks when intruders come into yard.

Barks at anything that comes into yard.

Did I say great with kids?
1/22/2009 6:02:21 PM EDT
[#5]
GSD
1/22/2009 6:02:41 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Small Yellow Lab



female american lab

color is your choice, but chocolates are known to have more health problems, and yellows look the best
1/22/2009 6:02:53 PM EDT
[#7]
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Border Collie without a doubt.  They get an A+ in all of your criteria.


Bad idea. Collies don't adjust well to being left alone to their own devices. They will destroy things
1/22/2009 6:03:15 PM EDT
[#8]
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Small Yellow Lab



Nothing says redneck quite like a Labrador.


German Shedder (euro bloodline) or Belgian malinois or Dutch Shephard.  

1/22/2009 6:03:53 PM EDT
[#9]
Two pit bulls?
1/22/2009 6:04:09 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
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Small Yellow Lab



Nothing says redneck quite like a Labrador.


German Shedder (euro bloodline) or Belgina malinois or Dutch Shephard.  




WTF?  Don't get a Belgian Malinois
1/22/2009 6:04:28 PM EDT
[#11]

I prefer GSDs. They can be great with kids.




1/22/2009 6:05:23 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Boxer, but they need a decent amount of exercise




He said intelligent, I have been around a lot of Boxers they have all been as dumb as a stump.
1/22/2009 6:05:43 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Compact (pocket sized), high-intensity incandescent flashlight for tactical and duty use or conditions requiring an enhanced grip. The standard-issue flashlight of the FBI, U.S. Air Marshals, and thousands of police departments worldwide










What the hell are talking you about?



1/22/2009 6:05:44 PM EDT
[#14]
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Boxer, but they need a decent amount of exercise


I agree.

1/22/2009 6:06:20 PM EDT
[#15]
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Small Yellow Lab



Nothing says redneck quite like a Labrador.


German Shedder (euro bloodline) or Belgian malinois or Dutch Shephard.  




WTF?  Don't get a Belgian Malinois



Too high energy?
1/22/2009 6:06:43 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
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Boxer, but they need a decent amount of exercise




He said intelligent, I have been around a lot of Boxers they have all been as dumb as a stump.



And yet you advise him to get a Malinois.  Have you been around many of them?  They are crazy as fuck, need tons of energy, and will tear your ass to shreads.  They make good LEO dogs, but are not good for families, especially those with kids
1/22/2009 6:07:26 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
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Boxer, but they need a decent amount of exercise




He said intelligent, I have been around a lot of Boxers they have all been as dumb as a stump.


Then they must have taken after their owners.  I would bet my mortage my boxer is smarter than you.
1/22/2009 6:09:13 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
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Boxer, but they need a decent amount of exercise




He said intelligent, I have been around a lot of Boxers they have all been as dumb as a stump.



And yet you advise him to get a Malinois.  Have you been around many of them?  They are crazy as fuck, need tons of energy, and will tear your ass to shreads




3 that I can remember, they are not common around here.  High energy dogs but excluding police dogs the few I have been around have been sociable.
1/22/2009 6:09:43 PM EDT
[#19]
As a single guy without a lot of furniture I care about, I MIGHT get a Belgian Malinois. But the few that I have seen are just about the most bite-happy dogs I have ever seen. (And one was a OPP trained K9). It's like they see the world as 'Things to bite now' and 'Things to bite later'. That could be cool, but I dunno that I'd want one around kids.
1/22/2009 6:09:44 PM EDT
[#20]
I've had Pit Bulls for 28 years now. They are the only dog I will ever have again. I have had about 6 different ones in that time frame, and I had 2 kids who grew up around them and never had any problems. At all.

One time in the bad part of St. Joe, my wife was at a stoplight with our infant son and Maggie, our Pit girl at the time. She was laying down in the backseat next to the carseat when a black guy got out of the car next to hers and tried to jack our car with my family in it! Maggie hit the window and scared the shit out of him so he jumped back into the car he got out of and left.

True story. If it wasn't for that dog, they may have been harmed or killed that day.

Of course this is just one persons opinion. There are alot of good breeds out there. I also had a Boxer I loved to death.


I know, they are mean and agressive....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/steve_moore/Family/th_1_27_08057.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/steve_moore/Family/th_1_27_08052.jpg
1/22/2009 6:10:33 PM EDT
[#21]
I've got a Catahoula Cur. She's actually a pretty dang smart dog and after 6 months, I'm pretty happy with our choice. She seems to posess the traits you are looking for.
1/22/2009 6:10:42 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
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Boxer, but they need a decent amount of exercise




He said intelligent, I have been around a lot of Boxers they have all been as dumb as a stump.



And yet you advise him to get a Malinois.  Have you been around many of them?  They are crazy as fuck, need tons of energy, and will tear your ass to shreads




3 that I can remember, they are not common around here.  High energy dogs but excluding police dogs the few I have been around have been sociable.




I've been around many of them, granted they were all mostly LEO dogs.  The Malinois is known to be one crazy dog.  They need way more exercise than most people can give.
1/22/2009 6:13:07 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
As a single guy without a lot of furniture I care about, I MIGHT get a Belgian Malinois. But the few that I have seen are just about the most bite-happy dogs I have ever seen. (And one was a OPP trained K9). It's like they see the world as 'Things to bite now' and 'Things to bite later'. That could be cool, but I dunno that I'd want one around kids.



This is no lie.  They have to be entertained all the time. If they see a ball of any sort, they will do whatever it takes to get a hold of it.  If you don't have a lot of time to spend playing and exercising with a Malinois, they will get bored very quickly and become couch eating machine!


BTW, I have two Great danes and they make excellent family dogs, just a little big!
1/22/2009 6:13:07 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
I am looking for the following:

Medium size
Good with kids and other pets
Loyal
Protective but not aggressive
Intelligent


Any suggestions?


We have a small yard that I can fence and I will likely install a doggies door.  Assume that this will primarily be an inside dog with walks in the morning and night.  Also, we will be gone most of the day at work.  I know that leaving the smarter breads alone for eight hours can be bad.  



Check out a Carolina Dog, also known as an American Dingo.  You're in the right part of the country for them too, as they still live wild in South Carolina and Georgia.

On average they go from 30-60 lbs, very intelligent, very active, but have no trouble living in an apartment.  They are remnants from the dogs the Native Americans had, and they've been living on their own for centuries.  Good hunting instinct, super athletic dogs.  I just took my two for a 25 mile hike this weekend and they are game to go again this weekend.

They're a fairly rare breed, but I can put you in touch with some breeders.  I don't know what they're going for now but I paid $300 for mine, papered.  PM if you want more details.

Some great pictures here and also a breeders site (but kinda far from you)

Carolina Dog Wiki
1/22/2009 6:13:17 PM EDT
[#25]
Check out Petfinder. Look for dogs in your area and pick one  up. Most all of these dogs will make great family pets.

If you want a specific breed I would suggest an American Staffordshire Terrier.
1/22/2009 6:14:05 PM EDT
[#26]
German Shepherd.
1/22/2009 6:14:35 PM EDT
[#27]
English Spring spaniel or yellow lab...
1/22/2009 6:14:36 PM EDT
[#28]
Hungarian Vizsla.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Vizsla

"...Temperament
Excellent example of the AKC breed standard "golden rust" coat.

Vizslas are very high energy, gentle-mannered, loyal, caring, and highly affectionate. They quickly form close bonds with their owners, including children. Often they are referred to as "velcro" dogs because of their loyalty and affection. They are quiet dogs, only barking if necessary or provoked.[citation needed]

They are natural hunters with an excellent ability to take training [2]. Not only are they great pointers, but they are excellent retrievers as well. They will retrieve on land and in the water, making the most of their natural instincts. However, they must be trained gently and without harsh commands or strong physical correction, as they have sensitive temperaments and can be easily damaged if trained too harshly. Vizslas are excellent swimmers and often swim in pools if one is available. Like all gun dogs, Vizslas require a good deal of exercise to remain healthy and happy. Thirty minutes to an hour of exercise daily in a large off-leash area is optimal.[9]

The Vizsla thrives on attention, exercise, and interaction. It is highly intelligent, and enjoys being challenged and stimulated, both mentally and physically. Vizslas that do not get enough attention and exercise can easily become destructive or hyperactive. Under-stimulated Vizslas may also become depressed or engage in obsessive-compulsive behaviours such as persistent licking.[9] Vizslas are very gentle dogs that are great around children. The Vizsla wants to be close to its owner as much of the time as possible. Many Vizslas will sleep in bed with their owners if allowed, burrowing under the covers."
1/22/2009 6:15:23 PM EDT
[#29]
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Border Collie without a doubt.  They get an A+ in all of your criteria.


Bad idea. Collies don't adjust well to being left alone to their own devices. They will destroy things


I am now on my third Border Collie, and I haven't had any problems with them other than the odd chewed shoe when they were puppies.  It's true that you have to spend some time to train them, but you won't find a better breed in my opinion.

1/22/2009 6:17:11 PM EDT
[#30]
I had a Border Collie when I was young, right before I got into Pits. He was a great dog, too.
1/22/2009 6:17:45 PM EDT
[#31]
Sorry...DP.
1/22/2009 6:18:41 PM EDT
[#32]
BLACK LAB! (Mine's a female, they are a bit smaller). Somebody said "BEAGLE". Sweat dogs, but boy they are notorious for takin off on ya.

LAB:

1) Sounds like a large-pissed Rotty when somebody comes into the yard (but really would hold the flashlight for an intruder).

2) Very social; Mine plays with ferrets, & LOOOOVES kids/children

3) Won't run off (with minimal training)

4) Fun to go swimming with (And probably wants to swim more than you do)

5) Goes ape shit for playing fetch

1/22/2009 6:19:01 PM EDT
[#33]
Australian Cattle Dog.  Smartest dogs I've ever seen.  Mine knows her toys by name, and will bring you the one you ask for.
1/22/2009 6:21:08 PM EDT
[#34]
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Compact (pocket sized), high-intensity incandescent flashlight for tactical and duty use or conditions requiring an enhanced grip. The standard-issue flashlight of the FBI, U.S. Air Marshals, and thousands of police departments worldwide








I already have a few of those.

1/22/2009 6:23:50 PM EDT
[#35]
How about a Standard Schnauzer
1/22/2009 6:26:10 PM EDT
[#36]
Kinda partial to Dobermans, myself.
1/22/2009 6:26:15 PM EDT
[#37]
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German Shepherd.


I like the Shepherds but I am worried about their hip issues.

I was also thinking about, German Shorthaired Pointers and Boxers.

1/22/2009 6:28:13 PM EDT
[#38]
http://www.standard-schnauzer.com/

All what you're looking for and very little shedding.
1/22/2009 6:29:09 PM EDT
[#39]
Take a look at your local animal shelter.  The kind doesn't really matter.

The dog you rescue from there will be greatful and will probably show you and your family all the gratitude in the world.


NN
1/22/2009 6:39:44 PM EDT
[#40]
Alaskan husky. ill probably be getting one when i move in June  my friend has one and i love that dog


Might have to give up the dog in 2 or 3 years due to global warming. might be to hot in WV to keep it  
1/22/2009 6:41:11 PM EDT
[#41]
Caucasean Mountain Dog
1/22/2009 6:43:53 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
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Compact (pocket sized), high-intensity incandescent flashlight for tactical and duty use or conditions requiring an enhanced grip. The standard-issue flashlight of the FBI, U.S. Air Marshals, and thousands of police departments worldwide



What the hell are talking you about?



My thoughts exactly...

-T7
1/22/2009 6:46:16 PM EDT
[#43]
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Compact (pocket sized), high-intensity incandescent flashlight for tactical and duty use or conditions requiring an enhanced grip. The standard-issue flashlight of the FBI, U.S. Air Marshals, and thousands of police departments worldwide



What the hell are talking you about?



My thoughts exactly...

-T7


It's been a long day....
1/22/2009 6:46:20 PM EDT
[#44]
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Alaskan husky. ill probably be getting one when i move in June  my friend has one and i love that dog


Might have to give up the dog in 2 or 3 years due to global warming. might be to hot in WV to keep it  



You have to exercise them or have a very large property, they tend to destroy your stuff if you don't.  Chick I work with got one for her son while living in an apartment (DUMB) it destroyed half her furniture.  They are a working breed in the truest since.

1/22/2009 6:54:30 PM EDT
[#45]
Everyone is going to recommend their favorite breed, as am I, but my recommendation fits your criteria to a "T".

From the AKC definition -
The Norwegian Elkhound is a hardy gray hunting dog. In appearance, a typical northern dog of medium size and substance, square in profile, close coupled and balanced in proportions.
Height at the withers for dogs is 20½ inches, for bitches 19½ inches. Weight for dogs about 55 pounds, for bitches about 48 pounds.
In temperament, the Norwegian Elkhound is bold and energetic, an effective guardian yet normally friendly, with great dignity and independence of character.

Wiki says "Although the breed is strong and hardy, the dogs typically have an inseparable bond with their masters and are quite loyal. All Elkhounds have a sharp loud bark which makes them suitable as guard-dogs."

And I can not only vouch for the previous from personal experience, but also they are great with kids, hardy enough that infants and toddlers can't hurt them, and very defensive of their people. I've never seen one offer to bite, but they'll bark at trespassers - which means pretty much anyone that wanders into the house without being properly introduced. My last one wouldn't bark at children, however. Just adults.

1/22/2009 6:56:30 PM EDT
[#46]
GSD
1/22/2009 6:57:08 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Compact (pocket sized), high-intensity incandescent flashlight for tactical and duty use or conditions requiring an enhanced grip. The standard-issue flashlight of the FBI, U.S. Air Marshals, and thousands of police departments worldwide








I hear housebreaking them is a real bitch.
1/22/2009 6:57:50 PM EDT
[#48]
Golden Retriever
1/22/2009 6:59:22 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
BEAGLE!!

Smart (although stubborn)

GREAT with kids.

Barks when intruders come into yard.

Barks at anything that comes into yard.

Did I say great with kids?


Beagle.

Great hunting dog too, hunt rabbits with your kids!
1/22/2009 7:00:12 PM EDT
[#50]
GSD! GSD! GSD! GSD!

Loyal? There are none more loyal. There are VERY protective of their children in their family.

They adopt your kids as their own.
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