[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Israel Using depleted Uranium (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/19/2009 6:12:52 PM EDT
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090119/ap_on_re_eu/eu_nuclear_israel_gaza
Next thing you know they will bitch about lead poisoning! (edited for poor spelling) |
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OH NO! ISRAEL IS USING DEPLETED URANIUM! JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER MILITARY ON THE PLANET!
These dumbasses don't have the first clue what depleted uranium is. I've read articles from crybaby hippies saying it causes mutations in children (who were too old for any birth defects to be the result of any use of DU on the battlefield, even if circumstances allowed for DU rounds to cause birth defects somehow.) and even that DU rounds cause miniature nuclear explosions. 
Fuck hippies. Why the heck do we listen to ANYTHING they have to say? |
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OH NO! ISRAEL IS USING DEPLETED URANIUM! JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER MILITARY ON THE PLANET! These dumbasses don't have the first clue what depleted uranium is. I've read articles from crybaby hippies saying it causes mutations in children (who were too old for any birth defects to be the result of any use of DU on the battlefield, even if circumstances allowed for DU rounds to cause birth defects somehow.) and even that DU rounds cause miniature nuclear explosions.
Fuck hippies. Why the heck do we listen to ANYTHING they have to say? It would be fricken awesome if they did. |
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Quoted: OH NO! ISRAEL IS USING DEPLETED URANIUM! JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER MILITARY ON THE PLANET! These dumbasses don't have the first clue what depleted uranium is. I've read articles from crybaby hippies saying it causes mutations in children (who were too old for any birth defects to be the result of any use of DU on the battlefield, even if circumstances allowed for DU rounds to cause birth defects somehow.) and even that DU rounds cause miniature nuclear explosions. Fuck hippies. Why the heck do we listen to ANYTHING they have to say? DU dust however, is very dangerous if inhaled... and most militaries dont use it. they use tungsten instead |
What a bunch of whiners! Isreal should have brought out the Naplam 
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You guys sure know how to insult people about their spelling. I was been "talking" to an editor for Southern Living, and I am constantly apologizing for poor spelling...the good thing is I know I cant spell! Stop... for the love of god. My eyes. |
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Never mind.
READ THIS LINK!!!!!!!! probably one of the most interesting wiki pages 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium |
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You guys sure know how to insult people about their spelling. I was been "talking" to an editor for Southern Living, and I am constantly apologizing for poor spelling...the good thing is I know I cant spell! Stop... for the love of god. My eyes. Holy shit, I just read what I posted...yeah, if I keep up like this, "talking" is about all that I'm going to be doing! |
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So how are the ballistics on DU rounds? I know they are more dense, do they frag or just penetrate? Excert from Wiki On impact with a hard target, such as an armoured vehicle, the nose of the rod fractures in such a way that it remains sharp. The impact and subsequent release of heat energy causes it to disintegrate to dust and burn when it reaches air because of its pyrophoric properties.[24] When a DU penetrator reaches the interior of an armored vehicle, it catches fire, often igniting ammunition and fuel, killing the crew, and possibly causing the vehicle to explode.
Sounds more fun than a .22lr 
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Why exactly do they use DU? What purpose does it serve? There are a few things that make Depleted Uranium ideal for use by militaries in its role as an armor-piercing incendiary projectile. 1. Density - if you read about penetration and terminal ballistics, you know that penetration is all about some sectional density, baby. Long, narrow, heavy projectiles penetrate better than short, wide ones. The more dense a projectile is, the more mass you can cram into a projectile of the same dimensions, which means more bang for your volume. 2. Pyrophoricity - pyrophoricity is a property of some materials where they spontaneously begin to burn (autoignite) at or near room temperature. When finely divided (i.e., turned to dust or powder, which happens when a DU round goes whanging into something hard going really fast and grinds part of itself away as it penetrates the target) Depleted Uranium is pyrophoric. I think that the benefit of a solid metal thing bursting into flame as it penetrates a tank is obvious. Plus, if the material itself is burning, then there's no need for additional material to cause an incendiary effect in hard targets. 3. Abundance - Natural uranium is a little more than 99% U238, and a little less than 1% U235. Fuel-grade uranium is about 7-10% U235. Weapons Grade uranium is about 90+% U235. The enrichment process by which the concentration of U-235 in uranium fuel is increased to useful levels results in lots and lots and lots of "Depleted" Uranium (which is nearly 100% U238) waste, which means Depleted Uranium is much cheaper than other materials which are useful as armor penetrators (i.e., Tungsten). Cheers, ~BakerMike |
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Why exactly do they use DU? What purpose does it serve? There are a few things that make Depleted Uranium ideal for use by militaries in its role as an armor-piercing incendiary projectile. 1. Density - if you read about penetration and terminal ballistics, you know that penetration is all about some sectional density, baby. Long, narrow, heavy projectiles penetrate better than short, wide ones. The more dense a projectile is, the more mass you can cram into a projectile of the same dimensions, which means more bang for your volume. 2. Pyrophoricity - pyrophoricity is a property of some materials where they spontaneously begin to burn (autoignite) at or near room temperature. When finely divided (i.e., turned to dust or powder, which happens when a DU round goes whanging into something hard going really fast and grinds part of itself away as it penetrates the target) Depleted Uranium is pyrophoric. I think that the benefit of a solid metal thing bursting into flame as it penetrates a tank is obvious. Plus, if the material itself is burning, then there's no need for additional material to cause an incendiary effect in hard targets. 3. Abundance - Natural uranium is a little more than 99% U238, and a little less than 1% U235. Fuel-grade uranium is about 7-10% U235. Weapons Grade uranium is about 90+% U235. The enrichment process by which the concentration of U-235 in uranium fuel is increased to useful levels results in lots and lots and lots of "Depleted" Uranium (which is nearly 100% U238) waste, which means Depleted Uranium is much cheaper than other materials which are useful as armor penetrators (i.e., Tungsten). Cheers, ~BakerMike Here's your answer... additional points awarded for use of the word "whanging". |
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oh wtf are they using DU on.. seems like a waste as the Palis do not have armor... Apache firing 30mm API ? 
An Israeli Apache helicopter flies over the central Gaza Strip after firing a missile January 6, 2009
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OH NO! ISRAEL IS USING DEPLETED URANIUM! JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER MILITARY ON THE PLANET! These dumbasses don't have the first clue what depleted uranium is. I've read articles from crybaby hippies saying it causes mutations in children (who were too old for any birth defects to be the result of any use of DU on the battlefield, even if circumstances allowed for DU rounds to cause birth defects somehow.) and even that DU rounds cause miniature nuclear explosions.
Fuck hippies. Why the heck do we listen to ANYTHING they have to say? It would be fricken awesome if they did. Yes it would. 
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Can you imagine if there was a 10mm depleted uranium load? Fired from a Glock? http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/phuzzygnu/atomic-explosion.jpg -p. DO WANT! |
| To be honest, were I the Israelis with some fucktards I have bad-blood with lobbing area-effect rockets into my cities, I'd be tempted to lob a few VX shells back... The fact that the Israelis are using precision conventional weapons should be met with relief, not bitching and moaning. |
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DU is the least problem these people have worry about. Israel wiped the floor with these idiots. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/84366784.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/84366758.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/84366750.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/84366729.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/84366682.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/84366678.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/84366653.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/h18w777/84366651.jpg (Cartman)Schhweet(/Cartman). |
More lessons in ass kicking awesomeness.
A thinking man would reflect on the beating he had received and change his behaviors. This vermin won't. 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28730638 Hamas proclaimed it won a great victory over the Jewish state — a view that appeared greatly exaggerated
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090119/ap_on_re_eu/eu_nuclear_israel_gaza Next thing you know they will bitch about lead poisoning! (edited for poor spelling) Depleted Uranium is ARMOR PIERCING ammo.... More specifically, it is DIRECT-FIRE armor-piercing ammo (eg it's not used in artillery).... Unless the Palis have suddenly begun deploying tanks, there is no logical reason that the Izzys would WASTE such expensive rounds on soft targets... DU rounds suck against said targets anyway.... The only way I can think of that DU would end expended up in Gaza, is if it's part of the 'mix' they load their 30mm & 20mm aircraft cannon with... |
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Why exactly do they use DU? What purpose does it serve? Really? It's really damn good at killing tank crews... WE use it in our aircraft cannon & tank gun rounds.... Of course, those tank gun rounds (APFSDS-DU) aren't deployed against soft targets, not for any 'rules' or 'sensitivity' reasons, but because they require contact with armor to work.... For soft targets, one would use cannister or high explosive rounds.... |
| There is no way the Israeli's are using anything with DU in it. DU is most commonly used in Sabot rounds for tank cannons. Sabot's are basically a javelin that is designed to pierce and destroy enemy tanks. The Israeli's wouldn't have much use for that ammo fighting infantry and would likely only have carried HEAT and canister or shotgun type rounds. |
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So how are the ballistics on DU rounds? I know they are more dense, do they frag or just penetrate? Burn & Penetrate, splattering bits of 'penetrated' armor all over the interior of the target vehicle.... They are pretty much useless against troops in the open & similar (unless we're talking the smaller air-cannon rounds, in which case DU is no different than a conventional solid bullet), which is why HE or Cannister is used in those situations... |