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12/31/2008 1:00:14 PM EDT
I'm not sure if this subject has been brought up yet.. but..


"Encoded Ammunition"/Bullet Serialization


"Encoded Ammunition" (Bullet and Cartridge Case Serialization) Means:

* Forfeiture of Currently-Owned Ammunition

* A Separate Registration for Every Box of New Ammunition

* Outrageously Expensive Ammunition Costs for Police & Private Citizens Alike

*A Waste of Taxpayer Money, Better Spent on Traditional Police Programs

In 2007, the sponsor of "encoded ammunition" legislation in Maryland urged lawmakers across the country to introduce the same kind of legislation in their states. The bill would require ammunition manufacturers to engrave a serial number on "the base of the bullet and the inside of the cartridge casing of each round" of ammunition for popular sporting caliber center-fire rifles, all center-fire pistols, all .22 rimfire rifles and pistols, and all 12 gauge shotguns.

Reasons to Strenuously Oppose This Legislation

People would be required to forfeit all personally-owned non-encoded ammunition. After a certain date, it would be illegal to possess non-encoded ammunition. Gun owners possess hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition for target shooting, hunting and personal protection. Consider that American manufacturers produce 8 billion rounds each year.

Reloading (re-using cartridge cases multiple times) would be abolished. There would be no way to correspond serial numbers on cartridge cases, and different sets and quantities of bullets.

People would be required to separately register every box of "encoded ammunition." This information would be supplied to the police. Most states do not even require registration of guns. Each box of ammunition would have a unique serial number, thus a separate registration.

Private citizens would have to maintain records, if they sold ammunition to anyone, including family members or friends.

The cost of ammunition would soar, for police and private citizens alike. The Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturing Institute estimates it would take three weeks to produce ammunition currently produced in a single day. For reason of cost, manufacturers would produce only ultra-expensive encoded ammunition, which police would have to buy, just like everyone else.

A tax of five cents a round would be imposed on private citizens, not only upon initial sale, but every time the ammunition changes hands thereafter.

Shotgun ammunition cannot be engraved. Shotgun pellets are too small to be individually engraved. Shotgun cartridge cases are made of plastic, which would be difficult to engrave.

Criminals could beat the system. A large percentage of criminals' ammunition (and guns) is stolen. Criminals could also collect ammunition cases from shooting ranges, and reload them with molten lead bullets made without serial numbers.

Congress eliminated a similar requirement in the 1980s, because there was no law enforcement benefit. Federal law had required purchasers of handgun ammunition to sign a ledger, but Congress repealed that requirement in 1983 (.22 rimfire) and 1986 (center-fire handguns), because it burdened purchasers, vendors and police, with no law enforcement benefit.

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=227

Is this 100% true??

And how long before it affects us??

12/31/2008 1:39:17 PM EDT
[#1]
They have been trying to do this for a while, in a number of different ways. But the crimnials don't care, they will steal your ammo and use it to commit a crime, so what will it matter?
12/31/2008 1:40:27 PM EDT
[#2]
"LAWMAKERS" keep forgetting the fact that CRIMINALS don't give a fuck about the laws

THEY ARE FUCKING CRIMINALS!!!!
1/1/2009 8:23:34 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
They have been trying to do this for a while, in a number of different ways. But the crimnials don't care, they will steal your ammo and use it to commit a crime, so what will it matter?


So is this going to be affecting us sooner than later??
1/1/2009 8:31:09 AM EDT
[#4]
With as many states that are looking to adopt this 20+ i believe I may buy some stock from the one compnay with the technolgy to do this if they are a public company..

Edit: I was Just Kidding..Really though the number of states looking to adopt this makes me think its not going away very easily..
1/1/2009 8:32:53 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
With as many states that are looking to adopt this 20+ i believe I may buy some stock from the one compnay with the technolgy to do this if they are a public company..


Don't support them

You would be better off stocking in ammo
1/1/2009 8:33:59 AM EDT
[#6]
Then you would be feeding the monster.  If supporting the company who is reaping benefits from gun owners through legislation is your ticket to making money. Shame on you.
1/1/2009 8:39:28 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
With as many states that are looking to adopt this 20+ i believe I may buy some stock from the one compnay with the technolgy to do this if they are a public company..


Don't support them

You would be better off stocking in ammo


I am kidding...Really though the number of states looking to adopt this makes me think its not going away very easily..
1/1/2009 8:39:47 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Then you would be feeding the monster.  If supporting the company who is reaping benefits from gun owners through legislation is your ticket to making money. Shame on you.


I was kidding..Really though the number of states looking to adopt this makes me think its not going away very easily..
1/1/2009 11:48:11 AM EDT
[#9]
I believe alot of states said no to this, pretty sure OH did.
1/1/2009 2:57:45 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Then you would be feeding the monster.  If supporting the company who is reaping benefits from gun owners through legislation is your ticket to making money. Shame on you.


I was kidding..Really though the number of states looking to adopt this makes me think its not going away very easily..



even the most liberal states shouldn't even begin to consider this.

1. here is so much ammo already out there that no one will be using this ammo in a crime
2. as evidence it is useless.
3. ammo manufacturer having to keep components organized in groups of fifty when they produce trillions of rounds a year.
4. it will bankrupt local governments when the cost for training and qualifying police increase astronomically.
5. the additional paperwork/database to record billions of transactions a year will be too much to handle.
1/1/2009 3:56:16 PM EDT
[#11]
I foresee massive civil disobedience if this occurs.  I,for one, will become a criminal.