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11/28/2008 6:02:55 PM EDT
My neighbor was cleaning out his mother's house after she passed.  He gave me all the gun related things he found.

I need some info on this reloader and some "how to's" for cleaning this thing up.  WD-40 will destroy primers IIRC.  So how do I clean it up?  Where can I download a manual?










It has a .38 die set on it.  Will I be able to load .223 with this machine?
11/28/2008 6:05:08 PM EDT
[#1]
Nice score!

Yes, you should be able to reload 223 with ease.

Lyman might be able to send you a schematic detailing parts and how to adjust the press.
11/28/2008 6:06:59 PM EDT
[#2]
that is a lyman press
if it is an old lyman 7/16 or 7/? threaded dies, No .223 die is available for it..
if it is a modern die set,  7/8-14 .it will load anything you want. with the proper dies..

11/28/2008 6:11:21 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
that is a lyman press
if it is an old lyman 7/16 or 7/? threaded dies, No .223 die is available for it..
if it is a modern die set,  7/8-14 .it will load anything you want. with the proper dies..



Just a guestimate, but those appear to be to be 7/8" threads.
11/28/2008 6:13:07 PM EDT
[#4]
POS junk.  Send it to me and I'll pay the shipping fees.
11/28/2008 6:15:57 PM EDT
[#5]
WD40 and 000 steel wool. then clean with brake cleaner, light lube with CLP.
11/28/2008 6:21:34 PM EDT
[#6]
Either motor oil or ATF and steel wool will take the rust off easily.
Then degrease with mineral spiri and lightly oil or grease the ram.

Naval Jelly will work also but is kinda harsh.

Looks like 7/8 dies to me.
11/28/2008 6:26:20 PM EDT
[#7]
WD40 wont kill primers.

That's the first thing I would do, hose it the hell down with WD40 and let it sit overnight.

11/28/2008 6:46:30 PM EDT
[#8]
How about directions for taking the thing apart?
11/28/2008 6:51:17 PM EDT
[#9]
Google "Lyman, All American".
That should get you into the ballpark.
Nice score!  

11/30/2008 4:50:33 AM EDT
[#10]
I'm coming up dry on the .pdf version of a manual for this thing.  Some help?
11/30/2008 5:07:04 AM EDT
[#11]
I have an older lyman  press of the same configuration...it is gray in color and has the Lyman "Ideal" powder measure on it...just like the one you have....very, very accurate!
You can load anything on it , that accepts  7/8-14 dies...just about anything short of .50 cal BMG.
I have loaded 30-06,.223, 38 spl. 9mm, 7.62x39, 22-250, .30 carbine, .17 remington, .45 acp etc etc
I've had mine since the mid seventies.....a very nice press I would not trade for anything
That is the only press you will ever need
11/30/2008 5:23:58 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I'm coming up dry on the .pdf version of a manual for this thing.  Some help?


contact lyman.
11/30/2008 5:38:03 AM EDT
[#13]
WD40 can kill primers but only if you get a lot on them,  relatively speaking.

You could dunk that press in a tank of WD40 for a week, take it out,  scrub it down, dry it
off until it's well dried,  LIGHTLY oil it, and not have to worry about it rendering primers non-functional.


Technically speaking,  NO, primers can't be killed.  Contaminate them with oil and they
could still be made functional again, by washing them with acetone, very carefully, to
remove the oil.  After drying them thoroughly they should still work.

You can inhibit primers with moisture and oils, but if that moisture or oil is removed,
the primer composition is still going to detonate if hit or heated sufficiently.

Do you know how primers get the priming compound into them at the factory?

BY HAND.  The assembler works with a steel plate full of primer cups and then rubs
WET priming compound into the cups and then scrapes off the excess from the plate,
and then sends the plate with its primer cups to the next process, which is where the
paper separator disc and the anvil are pressed in, while the priming compound is still
wet so it won't detonate.

The key to the safety of the operation is that the compound remains wet until all manufacturing processes on the primer are complete.   Then they are dried very
thoroughly and are then ready for use.


Incidentally,  Billy Lane's custom motorcycles (Choppers, Inc) all have a trademarked
feature on them:  The "six gun".   Looks like the open cylinder of a revolver, complete
with the shell cases visible.  Each shell case is actually a custom made, 44-mag sized
case head, made by Midway and having no flash hole.   They are loaded with
"deactivated" primers,  and I suspect that the day will come when some of those
"deactivated" primers will pop off, one fine hot sunny day after enough oil has eventually
migrated out of them.


CJ


CJ
11/30/2008 6:09:25 AM EDT
[#14]
Soak the steel parts in oil for several days, then scrub hell out of them with scotchbrite pads.  Steel wool will be much, much slower.

We have a member in the reloading forum with more time than money that cleaned up an old abused press with more rust than yours to better than new condition.  He disassembled the press to the last detail and got to work and had the whole thing done in about a week with a generous application of elbow grease.

My eyeball tells me those are 7/8-14 dies, so you should be good to go.  Maybe you can borrow a die to try.  Even if you use it for .38 Special only, that's a pretty good deal, too.

Ask around the Reloading forum for help with a manual.  One of those old gray headed guys over there probably owns this press.
11/30/2008 10:10:26 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
that is a lyman press
if it is an old lyman 7/16 or 7/? threaded dies, No .223 die is available for it..
if it is a modern die set,  7/8-14 .it will load anything you want. with the proper dies..



Even if it is the old Odd Ball thread, they make an adapter for the 7/8-14 TPI Dies
I got an old RCBS Press for free, had some rust on it and I cleaned it up with Steel Wool.
The Dies I cleaned with the Wire wheel on my grinder, hit them lightly and the Dies and threads will look new