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11/23/2008 6:07:58 PM EDT
General Motors.
Ford.

Well, would you?

These cars were designed in part with Federal money.  They get nearly 80 MPG.  And the designs are almost ten years old.
11/23/2008 6:08:52 PM EDT
[#1]
toyota.
11/23/2008 6:12:05 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
toyota.


Look at the article... I'll add info to my post.
11/23/2008 6:13:52 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
General Motors.
Ford.

Well, would you?


Hell no

Thats the crap people say the should build,people who don't their cars anyway that is.

11/23/2008 6:16:46 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
General Motors.
Ford.

Well, would you?


Hell no

Thats the crap people say the should build,people who don't their cars anyway that is.



WAT?
11/23/2008 6:17:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
toyota.


Yep, FTW.

I'd drive a diesel, but not one made by GM or Ford.
11/23/2008 6:18:51 PM EDT
[#6]
FUCK them and Obama.
11/23/2008 6:19:19 PM EDT
[#7]
Let the fucking market decide.  Once a company accepts .gov money, the government gets to tell them what to do.  This will fuck over the domestics.
11/23/2008 6:19:43 PM EDT
[#8]
although for work I would take the 68 mpg Euro Focus diesel.
11/23/2008 6:21:33 PM EDT
[#9]
Not to hijack, but since the price of fuel is coming down why not this car

11/23/2008 6:22:04 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Let the fucking market decide.  Once a company accepts .gov money, the government gets to tell them what to do.  This will fuck over the domestics.


The government spent 1,250,000,000 over a decade on these cars.  The companies spent about ten times that.
11/23/2008 6:23:16 PM EDT
[#11]
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Not to hijack, but since the price of fuel is coming down why not this car



For that money I can get a BMW M3 instead of a dressed up Mustang, which sells for less than 20,000 dollars.

Now that is slumming.

11/23/2008 6:25:28 PM EDT
[#12]
Never, American cars have been crap for the last 20 years. Americans car companys have done it to themselves. I have had 2 Honda's over the last 20 years and each had well over 300K on them and still run great.
11/23/2008 6:27:15 PM EDT
[#13]
Why did you show pictures of cars from over 8 years ago?
11/23/2008 6:27:38 PM EDT
[#14]
Hell no. I'll buy Japanese or German
11/23/2008 6:28:41 PM EDT
[#15]
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Why did you show pictures of cars from over 8 years ago?


Because it tickled my nuts...

And because it shows that the technology to do this isn't immature at all, but rather the car companies haven't offered cars with these features.

Me?  I'd rock one.  I drive a car now because it is cheap.  I would drive one of these because it is even cheaper.
11/23/2008 6:32:19 PM EDT
[#16]
One of those 2 is struck down due to who makes it.

The other one doesnt look that great, I might would depending on how it sits, rides and if its cheap.
11/23/2008 6:33:47 PM EDT
[#17]
Said it before, I'll say it again. UAW helped screw me by electing "The One" I'll screw them by selling my GMC truck and never buying from them again.
FUCK OBAMA
11/23/2008 6:41:56 PM EDT
[#18]
These are the cars Ford should have been selling in the US for a long time. The turbo diesel Ford Mondeo from Europe and Australia. I know the steering wheel is on the wrong side, but that can be changed. Oh, and they come with a 6-speed auto or manual.












11/23/2008 6:48:35 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
General Motors.
Ford.

Well, would you?


Hell no

Thats the crap people say the should build,people who don't their cars anyway that is.


+1000000000. They was car is build people too, years past, much crap too late.
11/23/2008 6:49:29 PM EDT
[#20]
Haha no.
11/23/2008 6:53:03 PM EDT
[#21]
Not unless they have one in the Tahoe variant
11/23/2008 6:59:31 PM EDT
[#22]
If it aint got a box behind it, I aint driving it
11/23/2008 6:59:50 PM EDT
[#23]
No; I don't like lightweight cars.

Al Gore might run me over with his limo.
11/23/2008 7:02:37 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Let the fucking market decide.  Once a company accepts .gov money, the government gets to tell them what to do.  This will fuck over the domestics.


The government spent 1,250,000,000 over a decade on these cars.  The companies spent about ten times that.


So they spent 10 billion on development but don't have any build able cars to show for it?
11/23/2008 7:04:41 PM EDT
[#25]
What fucking waste. If they would have had those models selling durring the gas crisis, they would not be in the predicament that they are in now.

Go into bankruptcy, get rid of the UAW AND the dumbass management teams. THEN start making some REAL cars.

11/23/2008 7:04:41 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Let the fucking market decide.  Once a company accepts .gov money, the government gets to tell them what to do.  This will fuck over the domestics.


Yep.
11/23/2008 7:07:49 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Not unless they have one in the Tahoe variant.



Not that hot, but 70 M/Kg of H2 is pretty good.

It would probably only be in the forties if it were diesel.

But that isn't bad for a half ton SUV.


11/23/2008 7:15:37 PM EDT
[#29]
Texaspyro, Ford wanted to bring one of their cars over, but it is built in a factory in England, and after exchanging money it would have cost something like 25,000 dollars for a small diesel coupe.

They can't just bring the cars over.  They have to be made here.

As for the EPA, Europe is headed down that road sooner rather than later.  And I'll tell you, Europe is a dirty place.
11/23/2008 7:20:37 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Not unless they have one in the Tahoe variant.



Not that hot, but 70 M/Kg of H2 is pretty good.

It would probably only be in the forties if it were diesel.

But that isn't bad for a half ton SUV.




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