Posted: 11/4/2008 12:03:51 PM EDT
| I was talking to a CMP employee about ordering a rifle. I asked this employee about what they felt would be the future of the CMP and if there were any new rifles/handguns on the horizon that the CMP would be offering. This employee told me that they have a employee meeting every week and in that meeting it is stressed by management that the future of the CMP is bleak due to the existing stock of firearms drying up and the uncertainty of future available firearms. Employees are encouraged by management to seek other employment opportunities outside of the CMP because the future of the CMP is uncertain. |
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I was talking to a CMP employee about ordering a rifle. I asked this employee about what they felt would be the future of the CMP and if there were any new rifles/handguns on the horizon that the CMP would be offering. This employee told me that they have a employee meeting every week and in that meeting it is stressed by management that the future of the CMP is bleak due to the existing stock of firearms drying up and the uncertainty of future available firearms. Employees are encouraged by management to seek other employment opportunities outside of the CMP because the future of the CMP is uncertain. It's a damn shame. The CMP is a great program, I wish we had something similar. Lobby your Congressman to give M16/M4 etc. parts kits to the CMP, have them fit semi-auto receivers and sell them to the public. |
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I love the CMP, but with their line of work; the better they do their job, the more quickly it is over for everyone. They have a finite amount of available resources and they will be exhausted at one point.
I know, I secretly hope that USGI M-14s will be available, but I know they won't. |
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I wouldn't worry too much. If McCain wins, I think they will be fine. If Obama wins, like that fuck is going to have the first clue what the CMP is or even exists. The real issue is what weapons are they gonna sell? There are only so many M1 Carbines, 03's, 1911's, and Garands left in the world. They can't convert and sell semi-auto M14's/M16's. The last era of US firearms they can legally sell ended with the Garand and M1 Carbine. They could sell M9's if the military let some of those go to the CMP, but that is unlikely since they are still being used. |
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I wouldn't worry too much. If McCain wins, I think they will be fine. If Obama wins, like that fuck is going to have the first clue what the CMP is or even exists. The real issue is what weapons are they gonna sell? There are only so many M1 Carbines, 03's, 1911's, and Garands left in the world. They can't convert and sell semi-auto M14's/M16's. The last era of US firearms they can legally sell ended with the Garand and M1 Carbine. They could sell M9's if the military let some of those go to the CMP, but that is unlikely since they are still be used. Orest Michaels said that their charter specifically prohibits the sale of pistols. The 1911s were given to foreign countries or cut up for scrap. CMP never had any in their inventory. |
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I wouldn't worry too much. If McCain wins, I think they will be fine. If Obama wins, like that fuck is going to have the first clue what the CMP is or even exists. Once a machine gun, always a machine gun. What's CMP going to sell to the public once the Garands and such are all sold? |
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I wouldn't worry too much. If McCain wins, I think they will be fine. If Obama wins, like that fuck is going to have the first clue what the CMP is or even exists. The real issue is what weapons are they gonna sell? There are only so many M1 Carbines, 03's, 1911's, and Garands left in the world. They can't convert and sell semi-auto M14's/M16's. The last era of US firearms they can legally sell ended with the Garand and M1 Carbine. They could sell M9's if the military let some of those go to the CMP, but that is unlikely since they are still be used. Orest Michaels said that their charter specifically prohibits the sale of pistols. The 1911s were given to foreign countries or cut up for scrap. CMP never had any in their inventory. I wasn't aware of that. The DCM sold pistols. I guess some politician cut a deal to keep the CMP in business, but only if it was selling rifles. |
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what about M1911s or M16 uppers w/o carriers? They can only sell obsolete weapons and parts. The Army has not sent any obsolete M16 parts to them.... Isn't the M16A1 still used by some rear echelon units of the NG and Military, or for training? There are probably no obsolete M16s. |
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I was talking to a CMP employee about ordering a rifle. I asked this employee about what they felt would be the future of the CMP and if there were any new rifles/handguns on the horizon that the CMP would be offering. This employee told me that they have a employee meeting every week and in that meeting it is stressed by management that the future of the CMP is bleak due to the existing stock of firearms drying up and the uncertainty of future available firearms. Employees are encouraged by management to seek other employment opportunities outside of the CMP because the future of the CMP is uncertain. It's a damn shame. The CMP is a great program, I wish we had something similar. Lobby your Congressman to give M16/M4 etc. parts kits to the CMP, have them fit semi-auto receivers and sell them to the public. It'll never, ever, in a million years happen. You're better off trying to learn how to fart gold flakes. |
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They'll run out of M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, and M1903's eventually. I wish they could sell us surplus M14's, M3A1's, and M1 Thompsons, though. I've often thought that they should try to get special permission from the BATF to cut the full-auto lug off of M14 rifles and sell them as semi-autos. Mechanically, it would be identical to an M1A. |
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what about M1911s or M16 uppers w/o carriers? They can only sell obsolete weapons and parts. The Army has not sent any obsolete M16 parts to them.... Isn't the M16A1 still used by some rear echelon units of the NG and Military, or for training? There are probably no obsolete M16s. M16A1 are still used for FTX in NG unit and in TRADOC. |
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I wouldn't worry too much. If McCain wins, I think they will be fine. If Obama wins, like that fuck is going to have the first clue what the CMP is or even exists. Once a machine gun, always a machine gun. What's CMP going to sell to the public once the Garands and such are all sold? Ammo, tools, shooting jackets, stocks, books, slings, hope. 
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what about M1911s or M16 uppers w/o carriers? They can only sell obsolete weapons and parts. The Army has not sent any obsolete M16 parts to them.... when i was there a few years ago they told me there were bunch in storage theat they could not sell and they would be "wood chipping" there were a few that were being kept for competition guns for the national matches but the rest would be destroyed eventually. the comments that they have none and never had are wrong. |
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I love the CMP, but with their line of work; the better they do their job, the more quickly it is over for everyone. They have a finite amount of available resources and they will be exhausted at one point. I know, I secretly hope that USGI M-14s will be available, but I know they won't. Klinton made sure they wouldn't become available to peasants. It was in the process of happening when he sent nearly all of them to some third world shithole country. 
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what about M1911s or M16 uppers w/o carriers? All the 1911s are long gone, and M16 uppers are destroyed if they are unserviceable. I wouldn't count on that. 300 brand new Union Switch and Signal 1911's were found in a warehouse not long ago and set to Iraq or Afghanistan, can't remember which. |
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I love the CMP, but with their line of work; the better they do their job, the more quickly it is over for everyone. They have a finite amount of available resources and they will be exhausted at one point. I know, I secretly hope that USGI M-14s will be available, but I know they won't. Klinton made sure they wouldn't become available to peasants. It was in the process of happening when he sent nearly all of them to some third world shithole country. Mostly cut up by Executive Order. I remember the piles of M14 stocks and parts that were at gunshows for a year or so. BATFE will never cut a deal on the remaining M14's. 'Once a full auto ALWAYS a full auto.' |
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what about M1911s or M16 uppers w/o carriers? All the 1911s are long gone, and M16 uppers are destroyed if they are unserviceable. I wouldn't count on that. 300 brand new Union Switch and Signal 1911's were found in a warehouse not long ago and set to Iraq or Afghanistan, can't remember which. 300 1911's is like one day of sales for the CMP. |
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what about M1911s or M16 uppers w/o carriers? All the 1911s are long gone, and M16 uppers are destroyed if they are unserviceable. I wouldn't count on that. 300 brand new Union Switch and Signal 1911's were found in a warehouse not long ago and set to Iraq or Afghanistan, can't remember which. 300 1911's is like one day of sales for the CMP. Maybe so. I'm simply making a point that if three hundred BRAND NEW 60+ year old 1911's were found by accident, WTF else do they have hidden out in those warehouses? |
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what about M1911s or M16 uppers w/o carriers? All the 1911s are long gone, and M16 uppers are destroyed if they are unserviceable. I wouldn't count on that. 300 brand new Union Switch and Signal 1911's were found in a warehouse not long ago and set to Iraq or Afghanistan, can't remember which. 300 1911's is like one day of sales for the CMP. Maybe so. I'm simply making a point that if three hundred BRAND NEW 60+ year old 1911's were found by accident, WTF else do they have hidden out in those warehouses? I see your point, but I doubt there is enough quantity of unfound WWII era weapons hidden in warehouses to keep the CMP in business. |
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I love the CMP, but with their line of work; the better they do their job, the more quickly it is over for everyone. They have a finite amount of available resources and they will be exhausted at one point. I know, I secretly hope that USGI M-14s will be available, but I know they won't. Klinton made sure they wouldn't become available to peasants. It was in the process of happening when he sent nearly all of them to some third world shithole country. alot of shit went to to the crusher to 
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I was talking to a CMP employee about ordering a rifle. I asked this employee about what they felt would be the future of the CMP and if there were any new rifles/handguns on the horizon that the CMP would be offering. This employee told me that they have a employee meeting every week and in that meeting it is stressed by management that the future of the CMP is bleak due to the existing stock of firearms drying up and the uncertainty of future available firearms. Employees are encouraged by management to seek other employment opportunities outside of the CMP because the future of the CMP is uncertain. CMP has known that for a long long time. |
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Why is CMP only focused on US military. Why don't they get into enfields and other types of curio relic rifles? Probably because they'll have to pay for them. They probably can't operate and pay the overhead unless they get the majority of guns/ammo for free from the US Government. If they actually have to pay the going rate for surplus firearms and ammo, they become just another AIM Surplus etc with AIM Surplus pricing. |
