Posted: 10/30/2008 12:45:21 PM EDT
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I just purchased a stripped lower receiver. Without knowing it, when I filled out the paperwork, the dealer not only did the background check, but also reported what I purchased along with the serial number. I've never purchased a firearm (I've always been given them or inherited them). The form I filled out had four pages and checkboxes.
I'm having major anxiety about this right now. No, I'm not a criminal nor do I have any criminal intentions, but what just happened makes me feel like now I'm regarded as one. It would be worth it to me to sell the receiver back to the store to annul the registration, but there's no way to be certain that that would even happen. |
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I just purchased a stripped lower receiver. Without knowing it, when I filled out the paperwork, the dealer not only did the background check, but also reported what I purchased along with the serial number. I've never purchased a firearm (I've always been given them or inherited them). The form I filled out had four pages and checkboxes. I'm having major anxiety about this right now. No, I'm not a criminal nor do I have any criminal intentions, but what just happened makes me feel like now I'm regarded as one. It would be worth it to me to sell the receiver back to the store to annul the registration, but there's no way to be certain that that would even happen. Um, that's normal procedures. Relax haus, everything's gonna be all right. In before "I'll take it off your hands blah blah" |
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I just purchased a stripped lower receiver. Without knowing it, when I filled out the paperwork, the dealer not only did the background check, but also reported what I purchased along with the serial number. I've never purchased a firearm (I've always been given them or inherited them). The form I filled out had four pages and checkboxes. Standard operating procedure. I'm having major anxiety about this right now. No, I'm not a criminal nor do I have any criminal intentions, but what just happened makes me feel like now I'm regarded as one.
You and anwhere from 60-80 million other law-abiding Americans. Don't do anything stupid with your new purchase and you'll blend in just fine with the rest of us. It would be worth it to me to sell the receiver back to the store to annul the registration, but there's no way to be certain that that would even happen.
Have a beer, relax and watch some movies featuring pretty young women. You're just fine. |
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the 4473 form primarily exists to scare off dumb criminals, and associates of dumb criminals (straw purchases). If you are neither, so there isn't anything to worry about.
It's a stripped lower receiver - can't do much with it as it is anyway. Owning a hunk of awkwardly shaped aluminum makes you no more of a criminal than a hedgehog. |
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Registration?? Where do you live??? In Georgia.. and any state that I have lived in for that matter what you fill out when you purchase a weapon is just mainly for the background check and showing that "that" particular weapon was sold to you and that you live at this address.. I guess you could call that a kind of registration but really it isnt. The only registration that I know of is in places like IL or CA, NY, MD places like that where after you purchase the weapon you must take it and the recipet to the local LE agency and register it with that dept, sometimes even provide a spent casing for their records.. ALSO Class 3 weapons are registerd.
All in all what you just went through is normal and doesn't mean that the FBI is gonna come knock on your door. Dont worry. I've filled out hundreds of these forms. It doesn't mean a thing. Its mostly for the store records until the ATF comes by once or twice a year and collects them for their number crunch. |
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the 4473 form primarily exists to scare off dumb criminals, and associates of dumb criminals (straw purchases). If you are neither, so there isn't anything to worry about. It's a stripped lower receiver - can't do much with it as it is anyway. Owning a hunk of awkwardly shaped aluminum makes you no more of a criminal than a hedgehog. As a furry I find your statement insulting. 
-Foxxz |
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Ahh, well I guess now they put the number directly into the ATF's systems, reporting it to them. It just sortof goes against what I feel should be the case when it comes to one person dealing with another –– to assume that anyone "might" have a gun, as opposed to "does" or "does not."
One of my favorite short essays: http://www.mindspring.com/~anson/free-speech/ –– Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. ––Daniel Webster |
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As said its not registration, just a background check. Registration is a bad thing.
"Honest, I sold my rifle....in fact, I sold all my weapons...cash, no receipt....no, I dont remember the names.....cash?.....blew it all at the titty bar!" I tend to believe that it will never get this far.....but then again last year I thought there were enough smart people in our country to NOT elect a liberal anti-gun President. Looks like I will be wrong on this account. Have fun and worry less. |
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See, the thing is a *lower* receiver is considered the actual firearm. Now you can get any combination of upper to mate with that, and in the eyes of the law, it's just a piece of tubing. ... unless it's a short barrel, i.e. shorter than 16 inches, then that becomes a whole separate issue getting a 200$ tax stamp for the SBR designation.
But as it is, you can get a 6.8, .223, .50 Beowolf, 7.62x39 upper just ordering it over the internet and delivered to your door - all legal 
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Registration?? Where do you live??? In Georgia.. and any state that I have lived in for that matter what you fill out when you purchase a weapon is just mainly for the background check and showing that "that" particular weapon was sold to you and that you live at this address.. I guess you could call that a kind of registration but really it isnt. The only registration that I know of is in places like IL or CA, NY, MD places like that where after you purchase the weapon you must take it and the recipet to the local LE agency and register it with that dept, sometimes even provide a spent casing for their records.. ALSO Class 3 weapons are registerd. All in all what you just went through is normal and doesn't mean that the FBI is gonna come knock on your door. Dont worry. I've filled out hundreds of these forms. It doesn't mean a thing. Its mostly for the store records until the ATF comes by once or twice a year and collects them for their number crunch. I'm interested to know more about this registration you speak of in Illinois. Because I've lived here my whole life, and I've never heard of it. 
Now, if you're referring to the state police illegally keeping the background check records, well, that's another story. |
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Yeah, I'd say the stress was akin to the first time I bought a new car w/ payments and the first time someone threatened to sue me (it ended up never happening). Well, now that I've got my firearm purchase cherry popped...
What uppers are compatible w/ a 5.56 lower? |
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Yeah, I'd say the stress was akin to the first time I bought a new car w/ payments and the first time someone threatened to sue me (it ended up never happening). Well, now that I've got my firearm purchase cherry popped... What uppers are compatible w/ a 5.56 lower? at least these... 6.8, .223, .50 Beowolf, 7.62x39 upper, and .22 there may be more. However it is not universal, as some manufacturers use bigger pins or smaller pins so check before you buy. About the Illinois question, the FOID card is the Firearm Owner ID Card. ( Fuck Illinois, by the way, and any politician that comes from that corn infested socialist shit hole ..Oh yeah Fuck Obama Anyway, it's a system that basically says you cannot even buy a single round of .22 short unless you are registered with the socialist State Of Illinois as a gun owner) so again....Fuck Illinois politicians! "Oh, there is no gun registration" Yeah right... from http://ncfrfo.com/gunlaw.aspx NOTE: In the City of Chicago, it is unlawful to keep a rifle, shotgun, or handgun unless it has been registered with the Director of Revenue. This requirement applies to all firearms kept in Chicago whether the firearm was purchased in the city, or acquired elsewhere. All firearms brought into the city must be registered within ten days. Handguns may not be registered after 1982. The registration certificate must be carried simultaneously with the firearm, and exhibited upon demand of any police officer. In any prosecution under this section the burden of proof is on the city to prove that the firearm has been possessed in the city for 10 days or more.
Edited to add: This in no way impunes on any Illinois resident ... just the nanny state approach that Chicago dictates how the entire rest of the state is supposed to be. Fuck Chicago. I wish they'd just leave... fall into Lake Michigan...just go away |
