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8/31/2008 8:35:21 AM EDT
Well? Do you think it will hit  New Orleans? & is it really the storm of  the Century?
8/31/2008 8:36:50 AM EDT
[#1]
Its God's way of telling people its not smart to build a city below sea level.

Frankly I find it quite hilarious that it is going to hit NO again. Does that make me a bad person?
8/31/2008 8:39:01 AM EDT
[#2]
Well- How much  of OUR COUNTRY's money will we give them now!?
8/31/2008 8:40:15 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Its God's way of telling people its not smart to build a city below sea level.

Frankly I find it quite hilarious that it is going to hit NO again. Does that make me a bad person?


im thinking the same thing
8/31/2008 8:41:59 AM EDT
[#4]
I don't wish any harm on the folks of NOLA, I do wish they had the smarts to not live under sea level in hurricane alley though.
8/31/2008 8:43:32 AM EDT
[#5]
it very well could but hopefully if Gustav does hit it won't be as bad a cluster fuck as katrina was
8/31/2008 8:45:37 AM EDT
[#6]
"The foolish man builds his house upon the sand".

That said, that doesn't mean that I don't still feel for these people and wish them the best. But yeah, living in a city in the hurricane zone and being below sea level is not the smartest thing in the world.
8/31/2008 8:46:36 AM EDT
[#7]
Gustav is a mystery, shrouded in an enigma, wrapped up in a fresh hot flour tortilla.
8/31/2008 9:00:01 AM EDT
[#8]
I love the N.O. Mayor & his press conference .....
8/31/2008 9:15:11 AM EDT
[#9]


8/31/2008 9:20:41 AM EDT
[#10]
It's gonna swing west of New Orleans, but maybe not far enough west.

Katrina didn't hit the city directly either.
8/31/2008 9:38:07 AM EDT
[#11]
Yep, New Orleans is in a bad location still even if the hurricane goes west of the city. All the water will be piled up in the bowl shape of the LA/MS border. East side of a Hurricane is always the worst.
8/31/2008 9:47:17 AM EDT
[#12]
Here's a great site to track the hurricanes....

www.stormpulse.com/
8/31/2008 9:55:50 AM EDT
[#13]

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...East side of a Hurricane is always the worst.


Except when it hits the east coast.  Then the north side of the storm is worst.

8/31/2008 9:58:42 AM EDT
[#14]
Someone was saying it would be worse if it hit just west of NO on the radio last night.

I am not sure what his reasoning was.

8/31/2008 10:01:30 AM EDT
[#15]

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Someone was saying it would be worse if it hit just west of NO on the radio last night.

I am not sure what his reasoning was.



The NorthEast side of a hurricane is the worst, generally with the fastest winds and the most rain.  Look at the counter-clockwise motion.

In contrast, the SouthWest side has lesser winds and rain.  Sort of the "leeward" side of the storm.

LC
8/31/2008 10:10:58 AM EDT
[#16]
Keep in mind this storm will push water towards New Orleans this time.  However, it looks like Gustav is struggling in the gulf right now. It won't be as bad now.
8/31/2008 10:12:30 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Someone was saying it would be worse if it hit just west of NO on the radio last night.

I am not sure what his reasoning was.



The NorthEast side of a hurricane is the worst, generally with the fastest winds and the most rain.  Look at the counter-clockwise motion.

In contrast, the SouthWest side has lesser winds and rain.  Sort of the "leeward" side of the storm.

LC


Storm surge is pushed northward on the NE quadrant of a hurricane because of the south winds...that would not be good for a city below sea level.
8/31/2008 10:15:15 AM EDT
[#18]
How much of a storm surge can the New Orleans levees take?
8/31/2008 12:23:53 PM EDT
[#19]
WHo CARES! Dont live there! Its BELOW SEA LEVEL! Just let them destroy their city  again - if this storm hits!  We forget alot of things- The RAPES , Robberies & Beatings in the DOME!  & all that MONEY we allow to be pumped in to that  city!   I do not recall any Great Plains  Towns , Cities or states begging for money when the blizzards hit or the floods hit the midwest!  Different lifestyle I guess!
8/31/2008 12:27:20 PM EDT
[#20]

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It's gonna swing west of New Orleans, but maybe not far enough west.

Katrina didn't hit the city directly either.


Katrina swung just to the east IIRC.
8/31/2008 12:31:05 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Someone was saying it would be worse if it hit just west of NO on the radio last night.

I am not sure what his reasoning was.



The NorthEast side of a hurricane is the worst, generally with the fastest winds and the most rain.  Look at the counter-clockwise motion.

In contrast, the SouthWest side has lesser winds and rain.  Sort of the "leeward" side of the storm.

LC


It is actually the leading right quadrant that is the strongest. Of course if a storm is heading north, it will be the NE quadrant.
8/31/2008 12:35:36 PM EDT
[#22]
My friend lives just off Mobile Bay on the West side. They nearly took a direct hit from Ivan which hit the East side of Mobile Bay. His house didn't get flooded at all.

Katrina struck West of Mobile Bay by 90 miles or so and his house got flooded by the storm surge.

New Orleans is in a bad location for this storm.
8/31/2008 12:36:36 PM EDT
[#23]
Perhaps GOD is trying to tell N.O. something!???
8/31/2008 12:41:13 PM EDT
[#24]
 I don't wish any harm on the people caught in the storm. I think anyone who willfully chooses to continue living below sea level is crazy and should take RESPONSIBILITY for their CHOICES. City officials need to be held accountable for their actions as well.

I could care less if NOLA was wiped off the map - rebuilding is an exercise in defeat. I think Hurricane Katrina killed 1,800 people. Not everyone can just pack up and go - I'm sure there are elderly who have no where else to go.

 There is a humanitarian responsibility to take care of our countrymen. There is no obligation to rebuild a city which keeps getting destroyed. Good grief.

Accountability and personal responsibility. Wild concepts that someone like Mayor Nagin will never grasp. Silly liberals.
8/31/2008 12:42:27 PM EDT
[#25]


looks like it's forming up....
8/31/2008 12:44:50 PM EDT
[#26]
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I love the N.O. Mayor & his press conference .....



You wouldn't love him if you were aware of all the other things he's said in the last three years since Katrina.


-- John
8/31/2008 12:46:36 PM EDT
[#27]
SARCASIM!! my friend... Just being SARCASTIC!!


Quoted:

Quoted:
I love the N.O. Mayor & his press conference .....



You wouldn't love him if you were aware of all the other things he's said in the last three years since Katrina.


-- John
8/31/2008 12:46:39 PM EDT
[#28]
Alright...who else has a gut hunch that this thing will peter out and become not much of anything?

The media WANTS this to be a big thing so they can all have the big story to cover.
8/31/2008 12:46:50 PM EDT
[#29]
height=8
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Perhaps GOD is trying to tell N.O. something!???hen
Nature =/= God hinking.gif
8/31/2008 12:46:58 PM EDT
[#30]
I don't think it is going to make landfall as a cat 3.

8/31/2008 12:53:39 PM EDT
[#31]

Well- How much  of OUR COUNTRY's money will we give them now!?


New Orleans isn't part of Our Country?  How much money do we give to other countries?

Shane
8/31/2008 12:57:09 PM EDT
[#32]

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icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/storm_radar/at200807_radar.gif

looks like it's forming up....


According to that animation it's losing power...
8/31/2008 1:07:27 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
Its God's way of telling people its not smart to build a city below sea level.

Frankly I find it quite hilarious that it is going to hit NO again. Does that make me a bad person?


Nope not at all I feel that GOD is trying to tell them something.  The people in New Orleans have really made him mad and he is going to keep throwing Hurricanes at them until they stop re-building and re locate to another place.  That's just my opinion though. That is all.
8/31/2008 1:20:39 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:

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icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/storm_radar/at200807_radar.gif

looks like it's forming up....


According to that animation it's losing power...


Here's a better look......it don't look good for NO. Gustave is much wider than Katrina was.

Gustav

8/31/2008 1:22:27 PM EDT
[#35]
I don't understand the 1 P.M. landfall prediction when the center is moving at 18 MPH and is  215 miles SSE of the MS river moving NW.  That's 12 hours to landfall not 21 or ~ 0100 tonight.  Speed would have to average 10 to 12 MPH to be 1300 hours landfall tomorrow.

If the 18MPH/215 miles is correct link. those who expect to leave in the morning after curfew may have a planeless flight out!

8/31/2008 1:25:44 PM EDT
[#36]

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icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/storm_radar/at200807_radar.gif

looks like it's forming up....


According to that animation it's losing power...


Here's a better look......it don't look good for NO. Gustave is much wider than Katrina was.

Gustav



Wideness doesn't factor in when they're both basically hitting it dead on. Katrina was a Cat 5 at this point before it hit.
8/31/2008 1:28:14 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
Alright...who else has a gut hunch that this thing will peter out and become not much of anything?

The media WANTS this to be a big thing so they can all have the big story to cover.


+1.

It won't be fun but I don't think it will be anywhere near Katrina.
8/31/2008 1:30:25 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
Alright...who else has a gut hunch that this thing will peter out and become not much of anything?

The media WANTS this to be a big thing so they can all have the big story to cover.


8/31/2008 1:36:17 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Alright...who else has a gut hunch that this thing will peter out and become not much of anything?

The media WANTS this to be a big thing so they can all have the big story to cover.




That animation auto-updates, as of the last reading (36min ago) the wind was down to 115mph, from 150 (C4) earlier. looks like it will go down to a Cat2 soon.

Almost looks at the rate it is petering out it could only hit as a cat 1....
8/31/2008 1:40:03 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Alright...who else has a gut hunch that this thing will peter out and become not much of anything?

The media WANTS this to be a big thing so they can all have the big story to cover.




That animation auto-updates, as of the last reading (36min ago) the wind was down to 115mph, from 150 (C4) earlier. looks like it will go down to a Cat2 soon.

Almost looks at the rate it is petering out it could only hit as a cat 1....
Looks like it sucked in some dry air into its circulation. No well defined eye wall and its pretty unsymmetrical.

He will be just your average, run of the mill hurricane.
8/31/2008 1:43:59 PM EDT
[#41]

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Alright...who else has a gut hunch that this thing will peter out and become not much of anything?

The media WANTS this to be a big thing so they can all have the big story to cover.




That animation auto-updates, as of the last reading (36min ago) the wind was down to 115mph, from 150 (C4) earlier. looks like it will go down to a Cat2 soon.

Almost looks at the rate it is petering out it could only hit as a cat 1....
Looks like it sucked in some dry air into its circulation. No well defined eye wall and its pretty unsymmetrical.

He will be just your average, run of the mill hurricane.


Yep, nothing like Katrina, which took a similar path but grew from a Cat1 to a Cat5 in like 24 hours and was for all intents and purposes a "perfect storm"... Gustav has been weakening from a cat 4 on the other hand.
8/31/2008 1:44:28 PM EDT
[#42]
Lets see... you build a house below sea level, on the edge of the water with no insurance and you go in shock when it floods - imagine that! ... the government gives you money and you rebuild in the same spot, that's as goofy as a box of rocks.  
8/31/2008 2:35:35 PM EDT
[#43]
East Texas is going to get hammered big time with heavy rains, esp. if this thing stalls.
8/31/2008 3:02:45 PM EDT
[#44]
It amazes me  how much this Government will do to save DEMOCRATs!   I wish the   good people in the MidWest during this years floods got that type of help.

8/31/2008 3:09:14 PM EDT
[#45]
The last report I just saw was that it was to remain a CAT3. Its picked up speed (now 18mph) and the expected landfall is now early tomorrow morning. No one will know what this storm will be or what it might do until then. The science is not exact.
Good luck who ever is staying and you have my prayers.
8/31/2008 3:11:35 PM EDT
[#46]

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It amazes me  how much this Government will do to save DEMOCRATs!   I wish the   good people in the MidWest during this years floods got that type of help.



8/31/2008 3:15:52 PM EDT
[#47]
Maybe the N.O. officials will start confiscating the guns of law abiding citizens early this time.


8/31/2008 3:19:14 PM EDT
[#48]
Cuba knocked a little out of it, but it looks like its reforming with a nice eye right now....



8/31/2008 6:23:48 PM EDT
[#49]

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Cuba knocked a little out of it, but it looks like its reforming with a nice eye right now....

i73.photobucket.com/albums/i227/JonnySak/untitled.jpg

I'd say it looks 50/50, was it Wilma that went from a 1 to a 3 in just 4 hours right before landfall?