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AR15.COM
8/28/2008 4:25:19 PM EDT
Okay, let's try pot again....

I did a thread a while back asking if the widespread use of pot(a crime)reduced ALL of
the users "respect" for the rest of our laws, and if legalization might help that problem

Now, I'm asking. What are the laws regarding Cuban Cigars, and would the
adaptation of those laws for pot make sense and be a reasonable compromise?


Of course everyone involved in a wreck or crime would have to be tested....


What says Arfcom?
8/28/2008 4:31:44 PM EDT
[#1]
I'd be all for that.  Make it illegal to have CUBAN pot, but pot from anywhere else is okay.  Yep, that works for me.
8/28/2008 4:39:46 PM EDT
[#2]
Don't they have laws that say it's legal to have them
but, it is not legal to buy, sell or transport them?

Reasonable compromise?
8/28/2008 4:43:29 PM EDT
[#3]
How much you selling it for? If you can undercut my guy , I'm in.
8/28/2008 4:43:29 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Don't they have laws that say it's legal to have them
but, it is not legal to buy, sell or transport them?

Reasonable compromise?



As far as I'm aware, you can't have them at all.  
8/28/2008 4:44:52 PM EDT
[#5]
uh, we could take Cuban pot seeds, ship them to the Dominican Republic and grow it there, and then import the weed.
8/28/2008 4:45:42 PM EDT
[#6]
I heard that just writing the words 'Cuban Cigars' is illegal.
8/28/2008 4:45:59 PM EDT
[#7]
Wait, what were we just talking about?
8/28/2008 4:47:12 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Don't they have laws that say it's legal to have them
but, it is not legal to buy, sell or transport them?

Reasonable compromise?



As far as I'm aware, you can't have them at all.  


I don't believe that is correct, but I'm not an expert on said laws
8/28/2008 4:47:55 PM EDT
[#9]
Grow up and do coke like an adult.......
8/28/2008 4:48:11 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I heard that just writing the words 'Cuban Cigars' is illegal.


OH CRAP
8/28/2008 4:48:38 PM EDT
[#11]
uuuuhh.....what wuz zat?
8/28/2008 4:49:26 PM EDT
[#12]
Maybe something along the lines of imported pot should be illegal , but domestically produced pot should be decriminalized. That would keep the money from flowing into potentially anti-American nations and keep the revenues here. the Cuba analogy doesn't fit because it's not the tobacco that's illegal , it's an embargo - mandatory boycott of all things Cuban ; besides baseball players.....

-JC
8/28/2008 4:49:45 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
How much you selling it for? If you can undercut my guy , I'm in.


I'll have my people call your people
(but, mine are undercover LEOs)
8/28/2008 4:51:03 PM EDT
[#14]
ok, I'll try it again.
8/28/2008 4:51:45 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Don't they have laws that say it's legal to have them
but, it is not legal to buy, sell or transport them?

Reasonable compromise?



As far as I'm aware, you can't have them at all.  


I don't believe that is correct, but I'm not an expert on said laws



I refer you here: cigars.about.com/od/cubantradeembargo/qt/0062002a.htm

and I quote:


Cuban cigars are illegal in the United States, except for pre-embargo cigars which are very rare and extremely expensive. If U.S. citizens attempt to buy, own or bring any Cuban cigars into the U.S., they may be subject to fines and other penalties, depending on the particular circumstances.


Granted, that's not the actual text of the law itself, but it's close enough.  It tells me we can't own them.
8/28/2008 4:53:30 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Maybe something along the lines of imported pot should be illegal,
but domestically produced pot should be decriminalized.


Hmmmm..........that would cut the cartels revenue
(now, if we could get rid of their slave profiteering)
8/28/2008 4:53:47 PM EDT
[#17]
My uncle, a Canadian and professor of zoology at the University of West Indies - Trinidad and Tobago Campus, regularly flies into Havana. While in Havana, he will usually buy a few boxes of cigars to the tune of $.05/cigar.

When coming to the States to visit us, he'll fly from Havana to Toronto then drive down to Pittsburgh.

Those are some freakin' nice stogies!
8/28/2008 4:55:09 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Don't they have laws that say it's legal to have them
but, it is not legal to buy, sell or transport them?

Reasonable compromise?



As far as I'm aware, you can't have them at all.  


As I recall, politicians,diplomats and reporters are allowed to own them.

But I cannot substantiate this on the internets.
8/28/2008 4:55:29 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
ok, I'll try it again.


Heh, that's NOT what I meant
8/28/2008 5:01:03 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
ok, I'll try it again.


Heh, that's NOT what I meant


I'll still try it again!  
8/28/2008 5:04:12 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Don't they have laws that say it's legal to have them
but, it is not legal to buy, sell or transport them?

Reasonable compromise?



As far as I'm aware, you can't have them at all.  


As I recall, politicians,diplomats and reporters are allowed to own them.

But I cannot substantiate this on the internets.



That could very well be.  I wondered how the people from Cigar Aficionado were able to test Cuban cigars for their ratings every year, since we're not at all allowed to buy them or possess them.  Admittedly, this is one area of law that I am not that versed in.  But I do know that we in the general public can't have them.

I've been having a hard time finding reliable verification, as well in the internetz.
8/28/2008 5:05:43 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
ok, I'll try it again.


Heh, that's NOT what I meant


I'll still try it again!  


Yeah, I figured
8/28/2008 5:07:27 PM EDT
[#23]
cigars should be illegal, all of them smell very very bad.
8/28/2008 5:11:14 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
cigars should be illegal, all of them smell very very bad.


They're a LOT better than cigarettes
8/28/2008 5:13:13 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
cigars should be illegal, all of them smell very very bad.


it's strange how they smell wonderful when i'm smoking them but terrible when someone else is smoking them.

Cigarettes smell the same no matter who's smoking them.
8/28/2008 5:17:10 PM EDT
[#26]
anything imported from Cuba is illegal, not just cigars.
8/28/2008 5:19:21 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Maybe something along the lines of imported pot should be illegal , but domestically produced pot should be decriminalized. That would keep the money from flowing into potentially anti-American nations and keep the revenues here. the Cuba analogy doesn't fit because it's not the tobacco that's illegal , it's an embargo - mandatory boycott of all things Cuban ; besides baseball players.....

-JC
Are we going to do DNA tests on the pot to see if it's American like the Russians did to those dead black troops they found in Georgia?
8/28/2008 5:22:54 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
cigars should be illegal, all of them smell very very bad.


it's strange how they smell wonderful when i'm smoking them but terrible when someone else is smoking them.

Cigarettes smell the same no matter who's smoking them.



That explains why people smoke them,
8/28/2008 5:33:58 PM EDT
[#29]
Umm well IMO cannabis should be legalized regardless of where it's coming from.


Stateside grown cannabis is generally of a higher quality than foreign anyways.
8/29/2008 12:24:44 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
cigars should be illegal, all of them smell very very bad.


it's strange how they smell wonderful when i'm smoking them but terrible when someone else is smoking them.

Cigarettes smell the same no matter who's smoking them.



That explains why people smoke them,


I've only smoked one, but I like their "aroma"
(except the really cheap ones, they're horrible)
8/29/2008 12:26:22 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
Umm well IMO cannabis should be legalized regardless of where it's coming from.


Stateside grown cannabis is generally of a higher quality than foreign anyways.



Think "incrementalism", like they use in their fight for complete gun-control
8/29/2008 2:19:04 AM EDT
[#32]
Isn't it legal for cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy to own and smoke Cuban cigars in some states?
8/29/2008 2:54:40 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
Isn't it legal for cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy to own and smoke Cuban cigars in some states?


Why would you think that?  Cuban cigars don't contain special ingredients.

8/29/2008 3:19:57 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
Okay, let's try pot again....


No thanks, I tried pot from 1974 to 1981, I didn't like it.  
8/29/2008 3:22:30 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Isn't it legal for cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy to own and smoke Cuban cigars in some states?


Why would you think that?  Cuban cigars don't contain special ingredients.


I think he's actually referring to pot being legal in some states for medicinal purposes
8/29/2008 3:23:42 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Okay, let's try pot again....


No thanks, I tried pot from 1974 to 1981, I didn't like it.  


It sure took you a long time to figure out that you didn't like it