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8/21/2008 5:24:01 AM EDT
I know there are MAC lovers on here, but I HATE their ad campaign.  

I wish that hipster shit would shave then get his ass kicked.
(by SEINFELD)


ETA:

Oh and Apple, BTW.  Some of us go to work with a fucking haircut and wearing clothes that we did not buy at Goodwill.  Damn hoody and ratty jeans wearing shit.

"i'm so hip"

Did I mention I HATE their ad campaign.
8/21/2008 1:55:17 PM EDT
[#1]
ALL of the computers I have EVER owed have been Macs.
All five of them.
8/21/2008 1:56:45 PM EDT
[#2]
AGNTSA!

These days Macs and PC's are pretty much the same, but I agree and hate their ad campaign.
8/21/2008 1:57:39 PM EDT
[#3]
Tell us how you really feel.
8/21/2008 1:57:51 PM EDT
[#4]
Not fond of the advertisements, but I love the product.
8/21/2008 1:58:07 PM EDT
[#5]
For gaming, Windows is superior.

For everything else, Linux is superior.

This leaves no room for mac to excel at anything.

8/21/2008 1:58:25 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
ALL of the computers I have EVER owed have been Macs.
All five of them.


So you're out and proud. Good for you.
8/21/2008 1:59:14 PM EDT
[#7]
Mary Ann
Cats
1911
Chevrolet
Nissan
.45 ACP
ArmaLite
Intel



So there, you dildos.
8/21/2008 2:02:22 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
AGNTSA!

These days Macs and PC's are pretty much the same, but I agree and hate their ad campaign.


Only difference is the Mac costs 4X's more, and won't run 90% of the programs out there, unless you have a newer one that has windows on it.  If you're going to run windows on it, why not just get a PC?  My wife's side are all mac users.  I personally don't like them.

I think the commercials are funny.
8/21/2008 2:24:30 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Mary Ann
Cats
1911
Chevrolet
Nissan
.45 ACP
ArmaLite
Intel



So there, you dildos.


Umm, Intel powers Mac and PC...
8/21/2008 2:26:20 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Mary Ann
Cats
1911
Chevrolet
Nissan
.45 ACP
ArmaLite
Intel



So there, you dildos.


Umm, Intel powers Mac and PC...


It doesnt power mine.
8/21/2008 2:28:03 PM EDT
[#11]

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For gaming, Windows is superior.

For everything else, Linux is superior.

This leaves no room for mac to excel at anything.




ughhhhh Mac is based on BSD.. Which essentially is linux...
8/21/2008 2:28:05 PM EDT
[#12]

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ALL of the computers I have EVER owed have been Macs.
All five of them.


Therapy might help
8/21/2008 2:28:11 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
AGNTSA!

These days Macs and PC's are pretty much the same, but I agree and hate their ad campaign.


Then why does Mac keep gaining market share every quarter?

The OSX vs Windows operating systems are like night and day.
8/21/2008 2:28:27 PM EDT
[#14]
I remember when Macs were PC's (Personal Computer)
8/21/2008 2:29:02 PM EDT
[#15]

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AGNTSA!

These days Macs and PC's are pretty much the same, but I agree and hate their ad campaign.


Only difference is the Mac costs 4X's more, and won't run 90% of the programs out there, unless you have a newer one that has windows on it.  If you're going to run windows on it, why not just get a PC?  My wife's side are all mac users.  I personally don't like them.

I think the commercials are funny.


Because macs runs windows better.
8/21/2008 2:29:36 PM EDT
[#16]

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I remember when Macs were PC's (Personal Computer)


Psssst... they still are.
8/21/2008 2:29:55 PM EDT
[#17]
8/21/2008 2:30:12 PM EDT
[#18]

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AGNTSA!

These days Macs and PC's are pretty much the same, but I agree and hate their ad campaign.


Only difference is the Mac costs 4X's more, and won't run 90% of the programs out there, unless you have a newer one that has windows on it.  If you're going to run windows on it, why not just get a PC?  My wife's side are all mac users.  I personally don't like them.

I think the commercials are funny.


Because macs runs windows better.


No they don't
8/21/2008 2:32:26 PM EDT
[#19]
Mac's aren't bad computers, but their stigma ruins it for me.


Its the whole "Buy a Mac and you'll be BETTER" bullshit.


Hence, why i will NEVER buy a mac as long as I live
8/21/2008 2:32:45 PM EDT
[#20]

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For gaming, Windows is superior.

For everything else, Linux is superior.

This leaves no room for mac to excel at anything.




ughhhhh Mac is based on BSD.. Which essentially is linux...


Hah, far from it.

Mac is the most proprietary hardware / software company in the industry.

Doesn't even compare to most current Linux distros.

Nice try though.
8/21/2008 2:33:14 PM EDT
[#21]
At least this set of Mac commercials is somewhat entertaining. The old 'Switch' commercials were flat out stupid: "Hi, I'm not smart enough to use a PC, so I bought a Mac". They were really aiming for the bottom 5% with those ads...
8/21/2008 2:33:41 PM EDT
[#22]

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AGNTSA!

These days Macs and PC's are pretty much the same, but I agree and hate their ad campaign.


Only difference is the Mac costs 4X's more, and won't run 90% of the programs out there, unless you have a newer one that has windows on it.  If you're going to run windows on it, why not just get a PC?  My wife's side are all mac users.  I personally don't like them.

I think the commercials are funny.


Because macs runs windows better.


No they don't


Yeah it does.  I have some work applications (proprietary software) that I must run on a windows platform.  I run XP on my macbook and it is smooth as silk.  No errors, crashes or hangups.  The same program on my desktop (New Dell) crashes like Lindsay Lohan after a night at the Viper Room.
8/21/2008 2:33:48 PM EDT
[#23]

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no shit. Didn't we do this yesterday?
8/21/2008 2:34:02 PM EDT
[#24]

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...Intel



So there, you dildos.


Umm, Intel powers Mac and PC...


My home system runs Windows 2003 Server on an Intel Core2 Duo processor.

Microsoft's high-end OSs are a lot more stable than the consumer versions.
8/21/2008 2:35:10 PM EDT
[#25]

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AGNTSA!

These days Macs and PC's are pretty much the same, but I agree and hate their ad campaign.


Only difference is the Mac costs 4X's more, and won't run 90% of the programs out there, unless you have a newer one that has windows on it.  If you're going to run windows on it, why not just get a PC?  My wife's side are all mac users.  I personally don't like them.

I think the commercials are funny.


Because macs runs windows better.


No they don't


Yeah it does.  I have some work applications (proprietary software) that I must run on a windows platform.  I run XP on my macbook and it is smooth as silk.  No errors, crashes or hangups.  The same program on my desktop (New Dell) crashes like Lindsay Lohan after a night at the Viper Room.


Several various sources have run benchmarks on this.

A few show that Macs run Vista better. None show that Macs run XP better.

8/21/2008 2:35:14 PM EDT
[#26]
Jesus Christ, use the one that suits YOU better and let the others do the same, this is getting older...
8/21/2008 2:36:27 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Mary Ann
Cats Dogs
1911
Chevrolet
Nissan
.45 ACP
ArmaLite
Intel



So there, you dildos.


And you forgot "with beans".
8/21/2008 2:36:39 PM EDT
[#28]
Mac Mini here.

BSD Unix derivative (Mac OS X) > bloated M$ OS.
8/21/2008 2:38:16 PM EDT
[#29]

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For gaming, Windows is superior.

For everything else, Linux is superior.

This leaves no room for mac to excel at anything.




ughhhhh Mac is based on BSD.. Which essentially is linux...


FAIL.  TREMENDOUS FAIL.

*BSD is a Unix originally developed at the UNIVERSITY OF BERKELY.  It's a faggot hippy OS.

Linux is a Unix developed by whoever wants to tinker with it.
8/21/2008 2:38:32 PM EDT
[#30]

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Mac Mini here.

BSD Unix derivative (Mac OS X) > bloated M$ OS.


Propriety free Linux distro (Gentoo is my choice) > Mac OSX

Also, when it comes to gaming:

Windows > Mac OSX
8/21/2008 2:38:39 PM EDT
[#31]

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Jesus Christ, use the one that suits YOU better and let the others do the same, this is getting older...


Precisely.  Thank you.
8/21/2008 2:38:55 PM EDT
[#32]

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AGNTSA!

These days Macs and PC's are pretty much the same, but I agree and hate their ad campaign.


Only difference is the Mac costs 4X's more, and won't run 90% of the programs out there, unless you have a newer one that has windows on it.  If you're going to run windows on it, why not just get a PC?  My wife's side are all mac users.  I personally don't like them.

I think the commercials are funny.


Because macs runs windows better.


FIL is corporate at apple, I've used them a lot, and seen the problems with them.  They blow at running windows, even worse than a PC (windows sucks).  Also, their quality control must suck.  My wife had TWO apples die within a few months (ibook and iMac).  Mines 5 years old (Toshiba), and still running fine.  They (my wife's family) as had at least 3 computers a year have to go back to apple or be thrown away since we've been dating/married.  They're pretty, and are great for multi-media stuff, but I still think they're crap.  My wife's iMac crashes at least 2-3 times a night (can't handle multiple applications being open at once I guess).  Also, as far as market share, they're ALMOST into the double digits, after how many years?
8/21/2008 2:39:09 PM EDT
[#33]

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AGNTSA!

These days Macs and PC's are pretty much the same, but I agree and hate their ad campaign.


Then why does Mac keep gaining market share every quarter?

The OSX vs Windows operating systems are like night and day.



Because the world is full of sheep who buy into the idea that Mac's are impervious to viruses and spyware apps. 90% of the people I know who buy Macs, name these two reasons as their #1 reason for buying a Mac.
8/21/2008 2:41:06 PM EDT
[#34]

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AGNTSA!

These days Macs and PC's are pretty much the same, but I agree and hate their ad campaign.


Only difference is the Mac costs 4X's more, and won't run 90% of the programs out there, unless you have a newer one that has windows on it.  If you're going to run windows on it, why not just get a PC?  My wife's side are all mac users.  I personally don't like them.

I think the commercials are funny.


Because macs runs windows better.


No they don't


Yeah it does.  I have some work applications (proprietary software) that I must run on a windows platform.  I run XP on my macbook and it is smooth as silk.  No errors, crashes or hangups.  The same program on my desktop (New Dell) crashes like Lindsay Lohan after a night at the Viper Room.


No they don't and you saying they do does not make it so... Apple computers come off the same production lines as PC and are made by the same people… ASUSTeK for example makes stuff for Apple.

Apple computers ARE PCs… Intel PCs.

Now considering Apple computer cost 2-3 times as much as comparable PCs do you really want to compare machines in the same price class and see what happens.
8/21/2008 2:41:32 PM EDT
[#35]

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...Because the world is full of sheep who buy into the idea that Mac's are impervious to viruses and spyware apps. 90% of the people I know who buy Macs, name these two reasons as their #1 reason for buying a Mac.


I know a guy who bought a Mac because his wife owned one, and he wanted to make sure he'd be able to read emails from her.

They're on AOL, BTW.

8/21/2008 2:42:01 PM EDT
[#36]

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...Because the world is full of sheep who buy into the idea that Mac's are impervious to viruses and spyware apps. 90% of the people I know who buy Macs, name these two reasons as their #1 reason for buying a Mac.


I know a guy who bought a Mac because his wife owned one, and he wanted to make sure he'd be able to read emails from her.



8/21/2008 2:43:22 PM EDT
[#37]

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...Because the world is full of sheep who buy into the idea that Mac's are impervious to viruses and spyware apps. 90% of the people I know who buy Macs, name these two reasons as their #1 reason for buying a Mac.


I know a guy who bought a Mac because his wife owned one, and he wanted to make sure he'd be able to read emails from her.

They're on AOL, BTW.





Does he also look for the "any" key?
8/21/2008 2:43:23 PM EDT
[#38]

www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200832/1690/Apple-prices-now-twice-that-of-comparable-PC-systems
 

Apple prices now twice that of comparable PC systems
by Stevie Smith - Aug 8 2008, 08:04

When it comes to Apple’s trendy and technically desirable range of desktop and laptop computers, Mac fans have always seemed willing to pay more for their hardware than the PC crowd. But is such an inflated investment wise given the growing price disparity between Apple computers and equally well-muscled PC systems on offer from various leading manufacturers?

For many, the adage that ‘you get what you pay for’ is a clearly defined yardstick that means liberally splashing the cash near-guarantees a top-tier purchase; yet, while Apple computers are certainly known for their quality, the emergence of prices around double those attributed to comparable PCs is casting a shadow over Apple’s continuing worth.

More pointedly, the number crunchers at NPD have recently revealed year-on-year pricing data that shows the average price for an Apple laptop in 2008 is around $1,515 USD, while the average price for an Apple desktop system is $1,543 USD.

Running those prices beside comparably-equipped Windows laptop and desktop computers for 2008 returns price points of around $700 USD and $550 USD respectively, which are massive reductions that leave Apple’s offerings looking a little too hot to handle.

According to Apple Watch, today's comparisons between similar Apple and PC hardware further impact on Apple's justification for slapping such huge prices on its computers. For example, it took the following pricing and specification listings directly from Apple and Dell to illustrate how mainstream PC systems are far more consumer accessible -- and even offer more for less in some areas:

iMac ($1,199 USD): 2.4GHz Intel Core Duo processor, 20-inch widescreen display (integrated), 1GB DDR memory, 128MB ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT graphics, 250GB hard drive, 8x double-layer DVD burner, Bluetooth 2.1, 802.11 g Wi-Fi, Webcam and Mac OS X 10.5.

Inspiron 518 ($739 USD -- after $150 USD instant savings): 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Quad processor, 19-inch widescreen monitor, 3GB DDR memory, Intel GMA X3100 graphics, 500GB hard drive, 8x DVD burner and Windows Vista Home Premium Service Pack 1.

Bringing that price gap into slightly clearer perspective, Apple sells its lowest-priced Mac notebook at $1,099 USD (the MacBook), while its lowest-priced genuine desktop sells for $1,199 USD (the iMac), which, although slightly reduced against the average, still adds considerably to the cheapest prices of today’s PC alternatives.

The core contributing factor that calls Apple’s pricing structure into question, according to a related Yahoo!Tech blog post, is that the Cupertino-based company now utilises Intel-branded hardware in its computer lines, much of which is attributed to much more pocket-friendly PC systems.

Similarly, in terms of mainstream manufacturing, many of Apple’s MacBook laptops now roll off hardware production lines that also produce lower price PC systems -- so why the huge price jump?

Taiwan-based hardware giant ASUSTeK is one such manufacturer put forth as known for handling Apple devices. In 2007, one in every three of the world’s desktop PCs was reportedly powered by an ASUSTeK motherboard.

Does this mean, therefore, that Apple is arbitrarily lumping hundreds of extra dollars onto the retail price of its Mac-branded computers because of exclusives such as the Mac OS X operating system, trend-leading aesthetics, and much-vaunted security stability, or is it something else?


And, ultimately, can Apple really justify maintaining its “premium” price structure (namely, above the $1,000 USD threshold) around computer systems that don’t appear to convincingly stand out from equally impressive PC alternatives for any other reason than they have an Apple logo?
8/21/2008 2:44:00 PM EDT
[#39]

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Does he also look for the "any" key?


He needs a DWIM* key.



* DWIM = Do What I Mean
8/21/2008 2:46:20 PM EDT
[#40]
I know correlation doesn't equal causation but most of the douchebags on campus, the ones you just wish would STFU, have apple laptops.

Personally I've tried macs at work and school but I just don't care for the feel or the whole layout. I did used to love to throw down some Oregon Trail on apples back in the mid '80s though!
8/21/2008 2:47:08 PM EDT
[#41]

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...Because the world is full of sheep who buy into the idea that Mac's are impervious to viruses and spyware apps. 90% of the people I know who buy Macs, name these two reasons as their #1 reason for buying a Mac.


I know a guy who bought a Mac because his wife owned one, and he wanted to make sure he'd be able to read emails from her.

They're on AOL, BTW.



Sounds like my IT guy. I have both a MAC and a PC on my desk and I told him I wanted to network them together so I could share data. He gave me a USB thumb drive.
8/21/2008 2:48:28 PM EDT
[#42]

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AGNTSA!

These days Macs and PC's are pretty much the same, but I agree and hate their ad campaign.


Only difference is the Mac costs 4X's more, and won't run 90% of the programs out there, unless you have a newer one that has windows on it.  If you're going to run windows on it, why not just get a PC?  My wife's side are all mac users.  I personally don't like them.

I think the commercials are funny.


Because macs runs windows better.


No they don't


Yeah it does.  I have some work applications (proprietary software) that I must run on a windows platform.  I run XP on my macbook and it is smooth as silk.  No errors, crashes or hangups.  The same program on my desktop (New Dell) crashes like Lindsay Lohan after a night at the Viper Room.


You understand how clueless about computers this makes you sound right
8/21/2008 2:50:21 PM EDT
[#43]
I hate the ads too, and I was die hard Pc . . . I even ran a business building custom systems.

I switched this year to Mac. I am shocked by how much free time I have now that I don't have to trouble-shoot computer problems. Macs are more expensive, but do you know how much I charged people per hour to do troubleshooting when I was in the business? Sometimes it pays to spend more up front.

I hate the ads, I hate it when "Mac people" go on and on about how hip and cool they are. The Mac store at the mall makes me sick.

But Macs are the best computers out there, thanks to the Mac OS, and some intelligent engineering.

. . . and I really don't care what benchmarks may or may not say - I run Windows XP on my mac with VMWare Fusion for some proprietary Windows-only software, and it is noticeably more stable and faster. If all Mac software suddenly disappeared from the market and I had to run Windows, I would do it on a Mac.
8/21/2008 2:52:44 PM EDT
[#44]

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I hate the ads too, and I was die hard Pc . . . I even ran a business building custom systems.

I switched this year to Mac. I am shocked by how much free time I have now that I don't have to trouble-shoot computer problems. Macs are more expensive, but do you know how much I charged people per hour to do troubleshooting when I was in the business? Sometimes it pays to spend more up front.

I hate the ads, I hate it when "Mac people" go on and on about how hip and cool they are. The Mac store at the mall makes me sick.

But Macs are the best computers out there, thanks to the Mac OS, and some intelligent engineering.

. . . and I really don't care what benchmarks may or may not say - I run Windows XP on my mac with VMWare Fusion for some proprietary Windows-only software, and it is noticeably more stable and faster. If all Mac software suddenly disappeared from the market and I had to run Windows, I would do it on a Mac.


It is kind of ironic, people here that think you must spend $$$ to get a quality firearm, turn around and flaunt a cheap PC, and complain a Mac costs more $$$.
8/21/2008 2:54:00 PM EDT
[#45]
From some of you I'd have to gather that you have really shitty PC's, or you work on really shitty PC's. Either you download too much shit, or look at every email you get.

In two years with my latest PC at work (a Dell) it's crashed zero times.

My laptop at home, crashed once in the two years I've owned it.

PC's don't crash because they aren't Macs. Mac's aren't stable because they are Macs.
8/21/2008 2:54:28 PM EDT
[#46]

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I hate the ads too, and I was die hard Pc . . . I even ran a business building custom systems.

I switched this year to Mac. I am shocked by how much free time I have now that I don't have to trouble-shoot computer problems. Macs are more expensive, but do you know how much I charged people per hour to do troubleshooting when I was in the business? Sometimes it pays to spend more up front.

I hate the ads, I hate it when "Mac people" go on and on about how hip and cool they are. The Mac store at the mall makes me sick.

But Macs are the best computers out there, thanks to the Mac OS, and some intelligent engineering.

. . . and I really don't care what benchmarks may or may not say - I run Windows XP on my mac with VMWare Fusion for some proprietary Windows-only software, and it is noticeably more stable and faster. If all Mac software suddenly disappeared from the market and I had to run Windows, I would do it on a Mac.


It is kind of ironic, people here that think you must spend $$$ to get a quality firearm, turn around and flaunt a cheap PC, and complain a Mac costs more $$$.


This isn't about cheap vs expensive.

It's about mac inflating their prices and PCs staying at around the norm.

PC vs Mac is more akin to McDonalds coffee vs Starbucks
8/21/2008 2:56:34 PM EDT
[#47]
I've just got to add that if Mac's get popular enough, they will have the same virus and hacker issues that PC's have.  If one is smart enough to author a virus, why create one that can only attack 10% or less (at best) of the hardware it will encounter?
8/21/2008 2:58:19 PM EDT
[#48]
these threads make me shake my head
8/21/2008 2:59:08 PM EDT
[#49]
Oh god damnit!!!

Mac IS NOT A COMPANY!!! The company is APPLE! Mac is a brand name.



And yes, their ads are about as pretentious as SOME of their users.
8/21/2008 3:03:47 PM EDT
[#50]

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I've just got to add that if Mac's get popular enough, they will have the same virus and hacker issues that PC's have.  If one is smart enough to author a virus, why create one that can only attack 10% or less (at best) of the hardware it will encounter?


I'm not a mac fan, but your reasoning is screwy.

The reason macs don't suffer from virus infections as much as PCs isn't because people don't write viruses for macs. It's because the OS in itself is much, much more secure than Windows. This is due to its BSD heritage.
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