Posted: 8/19/2008 7:17:22 PM EDT
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I don't have a dog in this fight, so I can be impartial. As far as I see it, REAL chili has tons of meat in it, but no beans. If you are too poor to be able to afford good meat (or you don't like meat) then beans are a cheap substitute, and can be used. It's not "real" chili - but is "ersatz" chili that might be close enough for some people. That's how I see it. If you like beans instead of meat, go crazy - but I don't think it's as authentic. |
I agree with the Goose Man........ |
you are an arfcommer. you know the proper answer is GET BOTH |
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The Chili Contest These are notes from an inexperienced chili taster named FRANK, who was visiting Texas from New Jersey ... "Recently I was lucky enough to be the 10,000th attendee at the State Fair in Texas and was asked to fill in to be a judge at a chili cook-off. Apparently the original Judge #3 called in sick at the last moment and I happened to be standing there when the call came in and was assured by the other two Judges (Native Texans) that it would be a fun event and a true taste of Texas hospitality. They assured me that the chili wouldn't be all that spicy and besides, they told me I could have free beer during the tasting, so I accepted. Here are the scorecards from the event." Chili # 1: Mike's Maniac Mobster Monster Chili JUDGE ONE: A little too heavy on tomato. Amusing kick. JUDGE TWO: Nice, smooth tomato flavor. Very mild. FRANK: Holy shit, what the hell is this stuff? You could remove dried paint from your driveway with it took me two beers to put the flames out. Hope that's the worst one. These Texans are crazy. Chili # 2: Arthur's Afterburner Chili JUDGE ONE: Smoky, with a hint of pork. Slight Jalapeno tang. JUDGE TWO: Exciting BBQ flavor, needs more peppers to be taken seriously. FRANK: Keep this out of reach of children! I'm not sure what I am supposed to taste besides pain. I had to wave off two people who wanted to give me the Heimlich maneuver. They had to walkie-talkie in 3 extra beers when they saw the look on my face. Chili # 3: Fred's Famous Burn Down the Barn Chili JUDGE ONE: Excellent firehouse chili! Great kick. JUDGE TWO: A good chili, a bit salty, good use of red peppers. FRANK: Call the EPA, I've located a uranium spill. My nose feels like I have been snorting Drano. Everyone knows the routine by now. Barmaid pounded me on the back, now my backbone is in the front part of my chest. I'm getting shit-faced. Chili # 4: Bubba's Black Magic JUDGE ONE: Black bean chili with almost no spice. Disappointing. Not really a Chili at all. JUDGE TWO: Hint of lime in the black beans. Good side dish for fish or other mild foods, not much of a chili, more of a bean dish. FRANK: I felt something scraping across my tongue, but was unable to taste it. Sally, the bar maid, was standing behind me with fresh refills, that 300 lb bitch is starting to look HOT, just like this nuclear-waste I'm eating. Chili # 5: Linda's Legal Lip Remover JUDGE ONE: Meaty, strong chili. Cayenne peppers freshly ground, adding considerable kick.Very impressive. JUDGE TWO: Chili using shredded beef, could use more tomato. Must admit the cayenne peppers make a strong statement. FRANK: My ears are ringing and I can no longer focus my eyes. I farted and four people behind me burst into flames. The contestant seemed offended when I told her that her chili had given me brain damage. Sally saved my tongue from bleeding by pouring beer directly on it from a pitcher. It really pisses me off that the other judges asked me to stop screaming. Screw those rednecks! Chili # 6: Vera's Very Vegetarian Variety JUDGE ONE: Thin yet bold vegetarian variety chili. Good balance of spice and peppers. JUDGE TWO: The best yet. An aggressive use of peppers, onions and garlic. Superb. FRANK: My intestines are now a straight pipe filled with gaseous, sulphuric flames. No one seems inclined to stand behind me except that slut Sally. I need to wipe my ass with a snow cone! Chili # 7: Susan's Screaming Sensation Chili JUDGE ONE: A mediocre chili with too much reliance on canned peppers. JUDGE TWO: *Ho hum*, tastes as if the chef literally threw in a can of chili peppers at the last moment. I should note that I am worried about Judge Number 3. He appears to be in a bit of distress as he is cursing uncontrollably. FRANK: You could put a grenade in my mouth, pull the pin and I wouldn't feel a damn thing. I've lost the sight in one eye and the world sounds like it is made of rushing water. My shirt is covered with chili, which slid unnoticed out of my mouth. My pants are full of lava-like shit to match my damn shirt. At least during the autopsy they'll know what killed me. I've decided too stop breathing, it's too painful. Screw it,I'm not getting any oxygen anyway. If I need air, I'll just suck it in through the 4inch hole in my stomach. Chili # 8: Helen's Mount Saint Chili JUDGE ONE: A perfect ending... this is a nice blend chili, safe for all, not too bold but spicy enough to declare its existence. JUDGE TWO: This final entry is a good, balanced chili, neither mild nor hot. Sorry to see that most of it was lost when Judge Number 3 passed out, fell and pulled the chili pot on top of himself. Not sure if he's going to make it. Poor Yank. FRANK: --------------(editor's note: Judge #3 was unable to report) |
Well said. |
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Oh no, not this shit again!! I've had terrific chile with or without beans and with all kinds of stuff in it and I'm from Texas. Chile originated on the cattle trail in Texas when the cook would throw a bunch of left overs in a pot to cook. He would put chile fixins in it to mask the flavor and make it tolerable. So chile didn't start out with just meat, it had all kinds of suff you normally wouldn't eat. BTW, I love chile with or without beans!!! |
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I like both.And for you yanks bell peppers do not go in chili. http://www.ak47.net/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=19&t=606712 If someone could make the link hot, please.My one handed typing sucks.Its a thread from a arfcomer who is a pro chef.My right wrist is broken.And I'm on meds. |
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I am sure that when the chefs wagon was following the rounders on a cattle drive, he traveled light. Meat may have been scarce (cant kill the cattle you are pushin') Dried beans and bread went a long way filling an empty, hard workin' belly. I am sure the beans were mixed in with the meat and anything eles they could scrounge up. I put just a bit of pinto beans in my chilli. |
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