[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Will Israel attack Iran? (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 7/11/2008 6:25:08 AM EDT
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I was in a debate this morning with a co-worker, It's becoming increasingly clear, that the U.S. will probably not use military action against Iran. With pressure from those damn Russians, and Obama as our prospective president. I do not think it will happen. My co-worker claims "Israel is just flexing it's muscles, in the hopes Iran backs down with it's pursuit of nuclear weapons." I think, Israel will strike at the Natanz enrichment facility, probably much like the air strike they did on the Osirak reactor near Baghdad, during the early '80's. What say you? |
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Their strike on Syria was beautiful. Simply beautiful. Nobody wanted to admit what happened because they (Syria) looked totally incompetent. I can see something similar happening in Iran. Overnight, a few key targets disappear as a warning and Iran stays quiet for awhile. |
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I see where Israeli fighters are using Iraqi airspace for practice...hmmmm. There was a time when I had no doubt that they/we would attack Iran, but I've done a 180 and will only believe it when I see it. Like some others have said, I'd be happy if they took out the leaders and scientists for the program--if it was at all possible. HH |
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Yep, there will certainly be some "interesting" headlines for the next several months. I wonder how China and Russia would react. Both of which have made investments in many of Iran's Nuclear facilities, and probably have personell in Iran at many of those reactors. I do not think they are present at Natanz, but there are roughly 15 other reactors in Iran. Not bad considering they sit on one of the largest oil reserves in the world. Sad thing is, many of those facilities are financed and even staffed by foreign entities. |
Think is not the proper word to use. They are not thinking. Hope or prefer is more accurate. Israel is not going to wait to be the recipient of a first strike. The best option now is for some kind of a Coup d'Etat in Iran to remove the "We are going to bring the Mahdi now" crowd from power. I just don't think that is very likely. |
I think you are right, I would also prefer that it wouldn't have to come to air strikes, it will likely inflame world polarization. But, there is no other alternative. |
Yup. We pay for Iraq, we pay for Israel, and we will pay for Israel's war in Iran. Yippee.  I'm of the opinion, Fuck Israel. We give them $30 BILLION a year in aid, and what the fuck do they do for us? The send spies over here. Now they want to start a war with Iran, which we will pay for as well. I can't wait for my great, great grandkids to get saddled with that debt. |
I would much rather them do it, than no one. The government who finances and arms more terrorists around the globe than any other, most certainly does not need nuclear weapons. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that. Anyone disputing that, must either have ulterior motives, or are naive. |
Because Olmert is terribly unpopular right now. He would also be fighting a war on two fronts. I don't think that he is the type of person who would take that kind of a risk right now. Maybe eventually, but not now. |
Israel will get one day, and one day only. Israel knows that the UN will shit cookies as soon as they do and the whole world (US included) will condemn the zionist aggressor while quietly thanking them. However, Iran is a tough nut and Israel doesn't have strat bombers like we do. I am not sure an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities is feasible by Israel. Nut-job could avoid the whole situation by STFU, but, of course, he won't do that and the world will ignore what he said and blame the joooos. |
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I don't think Iran will just lay down and roll over be it the US or Israel that attacks them. I do see the stage being set up for war however and I think it will happen. I think this is how it will go down: Israel goes in across Jordan, Saudi, Iraq etc to make surgical air strikes with the US assisting up until the point they cross over into Iran (possibly follow them in as well however for protection). Israel will drop all of the munitions but of course they are all our munitions we have set them up with over the past couple of years. Look for Israel to be dropping bunker busters and JDAM's, as well as the usual ordnance. Iran will then make a decision to retaliate and at that point they will either let things go and go after the bombers/fighters or they will go full war and then go after assets in the gulf region. I don't think we'll come out of this without a black eye or a bloody nose. I don't think this we'll be as clean as every expects it to be these days. To add to that if Iran shoots back they can pretty much bet that the US will devastate their military. Israel will only be their for the initial strikes and then run back home (at least that's what I think). If Israel sticks around they risk pissing off the rest of the middle east and the gulf states won't let Israel operate out our bases in the region. |
Yeah, but think of how high gas prices will become when the have another war to fuel? |
They are our frontline ally in the GWOT. What have you done for us lately?
News flash, When a nation does not recognize your nation, and claims that you are illegal invaders, and they will kill you or drive you into the sea. THEY ARE STARTING THE WAR. Iran funds weapons and training to terrorists who are killing our troops, and you choose to defend them.  Israel does what we can not, and gets away with it. I love those bastards. |
Sure they do. The US up-fitted Israel will a full ordnance compliment for a future war a couple years back. I would venture to say Israel is going in as a proxy for us at first. |
Link? |
whomper said $30 billion, not me. |
ETA: Pretty interesting. I hope this helps |
Sylvan asked for the link, not me.  At any rate, I wasn't disputing how much we send Israel. It is well worth it in the big picture. Israel are amongst our closest allies in the middle east, They keep the islamo-fascists at bay. |
I agree |
Certainly an interesting website. Factual, OTH... Might want to try a website that doesn't have "protest AIPAC" on its front page. |
Over 1000 sites? Where did that come from? I would guess 40 or 50 from what I've read. Plus, you have to calculate the benefits from striking a site. You gonna JDAM a site with nothing but paperwork or one or two centrifuges if that's the way they've laid it out? I don't think so. And yes, I expect Israel to react sooner or later after they see public opinion will not benefit them no matter how long they wait. I urge them to. Talking is useless, as is Obama's empty headed reasoning. |
Yep.  And I don't buy the "Ahmadinejad is speaking out of turn, he doesn't represent what the Mullahs think" ... if they didn't think the same way wouldn't they speak out against him...? Interesting website |