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7/3/2008 6:32:03 PM EDT
I take zero pride in saying this, but McCain is running the worst campaign ive seen in a while from a Republican against one of the biggest media darlings in recent memory.....this spells absolute doom. What the phuck is McCain doing in Columbia right now???

Its over. This sucks. Hussein's ideas for capital gains taxes are going to destroy the little nest egg ive been growing for retirement. Nothing like getting taxed twice on the same money and then doubling that tax. I hate that asshole.

McCain is done. Mark my words.

7/3/2008 6:33:53 PM EDT
[#1]
Uh, duh.
7/3/2008 6:34:16 PM EDT
[#2]
No, I think he's a rogue.
7/3/2008 6:34:26 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I take zero pride in saying this, but McCain is running the worst campaign ive seen in a while from a Republican against one of the biggest media darlings in recent memory.....this spells absolute doom. What the phuck is McCain doing in Columbia right now???

Its over. This sucks. Hussein's ideas for capital gains taxes are going to destroy the little nest egg ive been growing for retirement. Nothing like getting taxed twice on the same money and then doubling that tax. I hate that asshole.

McCain is done. Mark my words.


I agree whatever McCain's bunch is thinking I will never know. They almost seem like they want to lose.
7/3/2008 6:35:02 PM EDT
[#4]
It's not over till it's over.....Obama is now trying to "center himself" and is going to piss off all those super libs that supported him in the primaries.
7/3/2008 6:35:04 PM EDT
[#5]
He's got a new guy now.  Let's see what happens.
7/3/2008 6:35:42 PM EDT
[#6]
Mccains group thinks they have this election in the bag.

Obama does to but in this case he is correct.
7/3/2008 6:35:59 PM EDT
[#7]
McCain is actually doing quite well.


Obama is toast.

He has no support except from the uber left and the black community
7/3/2008 6:37:25 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
It's not over till it's over.....Obama is now trying to "center himself" and is going to piss off all those super libs that supported him in the primaries.



One of the benefits of not having a position on anything, ever, is that you can't really be pinned down when you change positions.


The people who support that empty suit are voting for the PERSONA, not a PLATFORM.
7/3/2008 6:38:40 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's not over till it's over.....Obama is now trying to "center himself" and is going to piss off all those super libs that supported him in the primaries.



One of the benefits of not having a position on anything, ever, is that you can't really be pinned down when you change positions.


The people who support that empty suit are voting for the PERSONA, not a PLATFORM.


Not really

THEY JUST WANT OUT OF IRAQ

And if he doesn't deliver, he's TOAST

7/3/2008 6:38:51 PM EDT
[#10]


If Obama chooses Hillary for V.P., he will win.

If he chooses someone else, he will lose.

-p.
7/3/2008 6:38:57 PM EDT
[#11]

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Mccains group thinks they have this election in the bag.



There's no possible way they can think that, if so, im not sure I want him to be potus. Talk about horrible decision making.
7/3/2008 6:39:29 PM EDT
[#12]

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McCain is actually doing quite well.


Obama is toast.

He has no support except from the uber left and[the black community/u]


That is a big group to have....
7/3/2008 6:39:33 PM EDT
[#13]
You're just figuring this out now? Many of us knew that a year ago, we needed somebody both charismatic and credibly able to run as a different kind of Republican, to even have a chance.

McCain NEVER had a chance absent some dead girl/live boy kind of incident.

There are a lot of reasons why, McCains campaign management is only a small part of the problem.

His apparent inabilty to give an interview without sounding confused and awkward is a bigger part.
7/3/2008 6:40:37 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
I take zero pride in saying this, but McCain is running the worst campaign ive seen in a while from a Republican against one of the biggest media darlings in recent memory.....this spells absolute doom. What the phuck is McCain doing in Columbia right now???

Its over. This sucks. Hussein's ideas for capital gains taxes are going to destroy the little nest egg ive been growing for retirement. Nothing like getting taxed twice on the same money and then doubling that tax. I hate that asshole.

McCain is done. Mark my words.



Looks like somebody wants us to forget about Obama's screwups... and become disenchanted with McCain instead... kind of troll like if you ask me...

Obama opens door to altering his Iraq policy


"There appears to be no issue that Barack Obama is not willing to reverse himself on for the sake of political expedience," said Alex Conant, a spokesman for the national Republican Party. "Obama's Iraq problem undermines the central premise of his candidacy and shows him to be a typical politician."



Just like Obama's stance of the right to bear arms.. suddenly he supports it..

Obama is leading the pack in campaign screwups and the democrats don't want us to notice...
7/3/2008 6:40:42 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
McCain is actually doing quite well.


Obama is toast.

He has no support except from the uber left and the black community
7/3/2008 6:41:06 PM EDT
[#16]
The race begins after the conventions.  People will decide this fall (except for the hard-core types like me).
7/3/2008 6:41:29 PM EDT
[#17]
I think it is going to be close............I also know plenty of Democrats who can't stand Obama.
7/3/2008 6:42:25 PM EDT
[#18]
Don't forget about those 48% of Clinton supporters who have yet to warm up to BO

7/3/2008 6:43:08 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
It's not over till it's over.....Obama is now trying to "center himself" and is going to piss off all those super libs that supported him in the primaries.



One of the benefits of not having a position on anything, ever, is that you can't really be pinned down when you change positions.


The people who support that empty suit are voting for the PERSONA, not a PLATFORM.


To a point that's true.....but most Obama supporters [nonblack] are hoping that he's going to "do great things" like the LGBT for example...are not to happy his trying to play to the Christian vote. A while that's not a major voting block, it shows that the "Savior" isn't anything really different.
7/3/2008 6:44:28 PM EDT
[#20]
Is he going to repeal DOMA?

7/3/2008 6:44:53 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
McCain is actually doing quite well.


Obama is toast.

He has no support except from the uber left and[the black community/u]


That is a big group to have....


It's also nonsense. Obamahas a much bigger share of the middle than McCain at this time.

Most of the people I know voted for Bush in 2000, and most of them are supporting Obama as of now. Then there's the Barr and Baldwin guys...I know this varies a lot depending on where you're located but around here the damage done to the Republican brand is enormous.

7/3/2008 6:46:00 PM EDT
[#22]

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Is he going to repeal DOMA?



Nope....both him and Clinton support it.
7/3/2008 6:46:12 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
McCain is actually doing quite well.


Obama is toast.

He has no support except from the uber left and[the black community/u]


That is a big group to have....


Not really. It is kind of the "Squeaky wheel" you hear more out of the ultra left libtards than you do the average Democrat. I am not worried about Obama. If McCain can't win on his own, the 527's will deal with Obama. McCain just needs the right VP. I hate to say it, but Romney could be the ticket. Or Jindl or the chick from AK.
7/3/2008 6:46:43 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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It's not over till it's over.....Obama is now trying to "center himself" and is going to piss off all those super libs that supported him in the primaries.



One of the benefits of not having a position on anything, ever, is that you can't really be pinned down when you change positions.


The people who support that empty suit are voting for the PERSONA, not a PLATFORM.


To a point that's true.....but most Obama supporters [nonblack] are hoping that he's going to "do great things" like the LGBT for example...are not to happy his trying to play to the Christian vote. A while that's not a major voting block, it shows that the "Savior" isn't anything really different.

Might want to remind your fruity brethern that if you want to see real homophobia, the black church is where its at.
7/3/2008 6:46:50 PM EDT
[#25]
Obama doesn't have the middle.

He has the left and minorities

And some women
7/3/2008 6:46:53 PM EDT
[#26]

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It's not over till it's over.....Obama is now trying to "center himself" and is going to piss off all those super libs that supported him in the primaries.


The libs will vote for Obama just like the conservatives will vote for McCain.  And there are a lot more libs than conservatives out there.
7/3/2008 6:47:21 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
It's not over till it's over.....Obama is now trying to "center himself" and is going to piss off all those super libs that supported him in the primaries.


oh they will get pissed but they will  hold their noses and vote for him anyway. They will hate old white republicans more.
7/3/2008 6:49:01 PM EDT
[#28]

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You're just figuring this out now?


Quite frankly ive always been a bit troubled by Obama's chances but honestly, much weirder shit has happened than Obama being a lock so I held out a while in the hopes that weird shit would happen, it didnt, we're phucked. Sucks huge. And Im not sure if most people understand how huge its gonna suck. He will inherit a recession, or a down economy..however you wanna put it..and all economies come out of it eventually so he will get ALL of the credit no matter what because the media wants to pull down his pants and blow him until he "arrives" and then swallow every ounce.

Nothing against black people, but we will not hear the end of the "how far they've come" specials being run all during his most likely 8 years and WELLLLLLL after. And I could give two shits, I could give two shits about hearing what white people have done and how far we've come, its collectivist bullshit and a waste of time but we'll be saturated in it nonetheless. Its just what our media does.

This is going to suck sooooo hard.
7/3/2008 6:49:14 PM EDT
[#29]
Hey,

I still think McCain can win.  But...

Fox News had a split screen with Obama and McCain with the same background...and damn does McCain look like shit.  

Yeah, I know, it shouldn't matter.  But he looks bad.  Old, whatever.

I'm just worried about the charisma/American Idol sheeple factor.

Kevin ""
7/3/2008 6:50:18 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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It's not over till it's over.....Obama is now trying to "center himself" and is going to piss off all those super libs that supported him in the primaries.



One of the benefits of not having a position on anything, ever, is that you can't really be pinned down when you change positions.


The people who support that empty suit are voting for the PERSONA, not a PLATFORM.


To a point that's true.....but most Obama supporters [nonblack] are hoping that he's going to "do great things" like the LGBT for example...are not to happy his trying to play to the Christian vote. A while that's not a major voting block, it shows that the "Savior" isn't anything really different.

Might want to remind your fruity brethern that if you want to see real homophobia, the black church is where its at.


Already have....I get all kinds of crap about voting Republician. And I love to remind them of the screwing they took the last time the Dems ran things.
7/3/2008 6:50:29 PM EDT
[#31]
I would not worry about that.

Those folks are the folks that voted for Bill Clinton because he was 'sexy'

They're stupid and they already vote Democrat



7/3/2008 6:52:14 PM EDT
[#32]
Obama has no support... except from nearly every democrat, nearly every black, and nearly everyone who hates Bush, who is at an historic low in presidential approval.

Obama v McCain = Clinton v Dole

How did ole man Dole do against young Clinton?  
7/3/2008 6:53:31 PM EDT
[#33]
You're kidding yourself if you think this country will elect a black man President.
7/3/2008 6:54:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Obama wasn't an incumbent like Clinton

Obama is losing support among Hillary supporters

You folks don't get it that a lot of older women who supported Hillary HATE Obama for running against her

Keep that in mind, folks

7/3/2008 6:56:59 PM EDT
[#35]

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Quoted:

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It's not over till it's over.....Obama is now trying to "center himself" and is going to piss off all those super libs that supported him in the primaries.



One of the benefits of not having a position on anything, ever, is that you can't really be pinned down when you change positions.


The people who support that empty suit are voting for the PERSONA, not a PLATFORM.


To a point that's true.....but most Obama supporters [nonblack] are hoping that he's going to "do great things" like the LGBT for example...are not to happy his trying to play to the Christian vote. A while that's not a major voting block, it shows that the "Savior" isn't anything really different.



Eh, the people who voted for him the primaries think hes the Second Coming.  He could publicly declare he will eradicate all whites and those folks would still vote for him (college educated white males too).  While they probably aren't thrilled with BO pandering to the "Christian left", do you really see a large portion of the LGBT community voting republican ?  

I don't think BO has as much mainstream appeal.  My worry is that McCain will manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
7/3/2008 6:57:39 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

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It's not over till it's over.....Obama is now trying to "center himself" and is going to piss off all those super libs that supported him in the primaries.


The libs will vote for Obama just like the conservatives will vote for McCain.  And there are a lot more libs than conservatives out there.



But by a large most Dems are not that Liberial......which is what McCain is counting on.
7/3/2008 7:00:15 PM EDT
[#37]
Seriously, all it will take is about a week of targeted Rev. Wright ads in key areas.  Sprinkle in a few spots with him actively working against partial birth abortions and a 40 million dollar NRA campaign in the 'bitter' areas of PA, OH, IN and VA, and we'll be set.  This mofo can't center himself when he started out a Stalinist.  His position on the war will be a loser.  Honestly, the more McCain shuts his mouth and runs something centrist he'll be fine... even if he goes 'against his record'... at least he has one to go against.  

Every time Obama opens his mouth he loses the middle.  As much as the media would like it to be even up until the end to get ratings, it won't be.  In the privacy of the voting booth nobody but the most hardcore leftists and people who donated 500+ bucks to this turd would vote for him.  

It's sad but McCain will win. He's a bitch but at least he won't destroy this country in 4 years.
7/3/2008 7:00:23 PM EDT
[#38]
7/3/2008 7:01:16 PM EDT
[#39]

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You're kidding yourself if you think this country will elect a black man President.



The more I talk to older Dems...the more I agree with you. If I posted what most of JT's parents and freinds have said about Obama....I'd get banned [and righting so]



And they are ALL big Clinton supporters...
7/3/2008 7:02:41 PM EDT
[#40]
What will be interesting about an Obama presidency is the infighting that will go on amongst the Dem's.  He ain't a senior senator or long term player.  He's their ticket in to power and Pelosi/Reid and the Klintons will expect him to play ball for them.

What will be annoying is the never ending celebration of our blackness as a nation - hell, ESPN already saluted the black athletes who gave the black panther/black power salute back in the '68 Olympics night before last.  Then everyone is talking about the singer screwing with the national anthem in Denver.  Last nite some female talking head was gushing about the Williams sisters and how that realtes to Obama.

Its only going to get worse.        
7/3/2008 7:04:51 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
What will be interesting about an Obama presidency is the infighting that will go on amongst the Dem's.  He ain't a senior senator or long term player.  He's their ticket in to power and Pelosi/Reid and the Klintons will expect him to play ball for them.

What will be annoying is the never ending celebration of our blackness as a nation - hell, ESPN already saluted the black athletes who gave the black panther/black power salute back in the '68 Olympics night before last.  Then everyone is talking about the singer screwing with the national anthem in Denver.  Last nite some female talking head was gushing about the Williams sisters and how that realtes to Obama.

Its only going to get worse.        



MLK must be twirling in his grave.
7/3/2008 7:05:08 PM EDT
[#42]
McCain goes to Colombia...hostages released.

7/3/2008 7:07:29 PM EDT
[#43]
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Seriously, all it will take is about a week of targeted Rev. Wright ads in key areas. Sprinkle in a few spots with him actively working against partial birth abortions and a 40 million dollar NRA campaign in the 'bitter' areas of PA, OH, IN and VA, and we'll be set. This mofo can't center himself when he started out a Stalinist. His position on the war will be a loser. Honestly, the more McCain shuts his mouth and runs something centrist he'll be fine... even if he goes 'against his record'... at least he has one to go against.



If McCain wins, it won't be because of his own initiative.  Count on 527's, and other sympathizers, to launch the attacks on his behalf.  The election is not going to be Obama vs. McCain, it's going to be an up or down vote on Obama.  This is how McCain will be carried across the finish line:

http://tbsveryfunny.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/09/bernies_2.jpg
7/3/2008 7:08:04 PM EDT
[#44]

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Eh, the people who voted for him the primaries think hes the Second Coming.  He could publicly declare he will eradicate all whites and those folks would still vote for him (college educated white males too).  While they probably aren't thrilled with BO pandering to the "Christian left", do you really see a large portion of the LGBT community voting republican ?  



Surprising...yes. "We" are the first people to get taxed [single middle class]. Sure a lot will just not vote if Obama starts out throwing us under the bus [and he will].


If McCain came out and supported things like dumping DADT, and alest civil unions....he get a lot of gays to vote for him. But if he did...he'd be handing the election to Obama no contest.
7/3/2008 7:08:22 PM EDT
[#45]
height=8
Quoted:
McCain is actually doing quite well.


Obama is toast.

He has no support except from the uber left and the black community



Um no.. I don't know where you get your information but it's wrong. Obama is is doing quite well on many fronts..

-Peter
7/3/2008 7:10:11 PM EDT
[#46]

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You're kidding yourself if you think this country will elect an anti-American black man Muslim President.
7/3/2008 7:11:49 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

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Eh, the people who voted for him the primaries think hes the Second Coming.  He could publicly declare he will eradicate all whites and those folks would still vote for him (college educated white males too).  While they probably aren't thrilled with BO pandering to the "Christian left", do you really see a large portion of the LGBT community voting republican ?  



Surprising...yes. "We" are the first people to get taxed [single middle class]. Sure a lot will just not vote if Obama starts out throwing us under the bus [and he will].


If McCain came out and supported things like dumping DADT, and alest civil unions....he get a lot of gays to vote for him. But if he did...he'd be handing the election to Obama no contest.



Perhaps the gays you know are more centrist, but most of the ones I know would rather chew off a limb than vote republican.
7/3/2008 7:11:52 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Eh, the people who voted for him the primaries think hes the Second Coming.  He could publicly declare he will eradicate all whites and those folks would still vote for him (college educated white males too).  While they probably aren't thrilled with BO pandering to the "Christian left", do you really see a large portion of the LGBT community voting republican ?  



Surprising...yes. "We" are the first people to get taxed [single middle class]. Sure a lot will just not vote if Obama starts out throwing us under the bus [and he will].


If McCain came out and supported things like dumping DADT, and alest civil unions....he get a lot of gays to vote for him. But if he did...he'd be handing the election to Obama no contest.

If McCain said he was gonna tap ANWR like Stonerstudent on David Hasselhof, he'd have it in the bag.
You know I just love teasin'.

Gas prices have gotten to the point where white lower class workers (aka, union) will vote for fucking ron paul if he promises cheap gas.
7/3/2008 7:16:41 PM EDT
[#49]
So who is going to run Washington?

Pelosi, Reid or Obama?

That is if the Republicans lose
7/3/2008 7:18:59 PM EDT
[#50]
McC is gathering funds and support of different people and the big push will come in August. This is a good moment to get your ducks in a row.
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