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6/28/2008 5:26:34 PM EDT
Anyone know how much those damn things are now a days?
6/28/2008 5:27:05 PM EDT
[#1]
IN
6/28/2008 5:27:56 PM EDT
[#2]
$600 is what my buddy paid.
6/28/2008 5:28:40 PM EDT
[#3]
oh shit
6/28/2008 5:28:42 PM EDT
[#4]
Ack. I think we will just stick to she is mine and not worry about dna. LOL!!  

Edit: This isnt something new, Allisons daughter Aubrey, who i have considered my own anyway. Thought about doing this for legality issues with ehr brain tumor and all.
6/28/2008 5:29:27 PM EDT
[#5]
No but let me know when you find out.

Would insurance cover it?

Edit after I read your last post-Does she already have your last name?
6/28/2008 5:31:14 PM EDT
[#6]

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No but let me know when you find out.

Would insurance cover it?


Why?  Does automotive insurance cover a title search?
6/28/2008 5:32:24 PM EDT
[#7]
several years ago I had one done on my son while I was going through my divorce. Cost me 600.00.
6/28/2008 5:33:38 PM EDT
[#8]

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No but let me know when you find out.

Would insurance cover it?


Why?  Does automotive insurance cover a title search?


Just asking man. I have good insurance through work thought it might.
6/28/2008 5:34:01 PM EDT
[#9]

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No but let me know when you find out.

Would insurance cover it?


Why?  Does automotive insurance cover a title search?


oh I donno though they might think about the money they could save by not covering "surprises"
6/28/2008 5:34:35 PM EDT
[#10]
I'll kick in $40.00 towards the test if you really want to know.  btw, can she set-up you to legally adopt her if something should happen to her?

Eric  
6/28/2008 5:35:30 PM EDT
[#11]

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No but let me know when you find out.

Would insurance cover it?


Why?  Does automotive insurance cover a title search?


You owe me a new laptop!  
6/28/2008 5:37:42 PM EDT
[#12]

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I'll kick in $40.00 towards the test if you really want to know.  btw, can she set-up you to legally adopt her if something should happen to her?

Eric  


Thats sorta one reason we wanted to do the test. Legal reasons in case something does happen to her. Cause if she isnt mine, ill only get to see her sometimes, I want her all the time, but of course not keeping her from her fmaily... Just something that needs to be done
6/28/2008 5:38:09 PM EDT
[#13]
Just go on one of those day time TV shows.

They will do it for you.
6/28/2008 5:38:47 PM EDT
[#14]

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Just go on one of those day time TV shows.

They will do it for you.


We dont have enough frama between us for that
6/28/2008 5:45:49 PM EDT
[#15]
If your name is on the birth certificate, isn't that a presumption?  Ask a lawyer, and then maybe just "fo" it.
6/28/2008 5:50:01 PM EDT
[#16]

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Just go on one of those day time TV shows.

They will do it for you.


Yup, you need to see Maury, hell you might get to see some midgets and some slutty teens too.
6/28/2008 5:50:30 PM EDT
[#17]

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If your name is on the birth certificate, isn't that a presumption?  Ask a lawyer, and then maybe just "fo" it.


Name is not in the BC. "fo" it?
6/28/2008 6:04:29 PM EDT
[#18]

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If your name is on the birth certificate, isn't that a presumption?  Ask a lawyer, and then maybe just "fo" it.


Name is not in the BC. "fo" it?


So she don't have your last name?
6/28/2008 6:06:23 PM EDT
[#19]
They should have the proof before they can get into your pockets.  You have a right to not incriminate yourself.
6/28/2008 6:08:46 PM EDT
[#20]

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If your name is on the birth certificate, isn't that a presumption?  Ask a lawyer, and then maybe just "fo" it.


Name is not in the BC. "fo" it?


Inspired by your "frama" and the "...it, I'm foing." in the SOTD orgy thread.

Is the father's name blank?  If that or another name is there, you'd need a lawyer, maybe the test,  and be prepared to pay child support.  Better sooner than later if that's what you want.
6/28/2008 6:09:23 PM EDT
[#21]

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If your name is on the birth certificate, isn't that a presumption?  Ask a lawyer, and then maybe just "fo" it.


Name is not in the BC. "fo" it?


So she don't have your last name?


We didnt think she was mine so no, she has her mothers last name



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They should have the proof before they can get into your pockets.  You have a right to not incriminate yourself.


No one is trying to get into anyones pockets, I love Allison and we may end up getting married, but with her having her cancer come back and getting to her brain, this is something we BOTH want to do
6/28/2008 6:09:28 PM EDT
[#22]
I think you can voluntarily have her name added to her birth certificate if no one else is listed. Check with someone in your own state, though, to verify.
6/28/2008 6:11:18 PM EDT
[#23]
THERES NO CHILD SUPPORT INVOLVED!!! Soemthing we want to get out of thw way cause Allison may only have 2 years left!!!

6/28/2008 6:14:41 PM EDT
[#24]

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If your name is on the birth certificate, isn't that a presumption?  Ask a lawyer, and then maybe just "fo" it.


Name is not in the BC. "fo" it?


So she don't have your last name?


We didnt think she was mine so no, she has her mothers last name



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They should have the proof before they can get into your pockets.  You have a right to not incriminate yourself.


No one is trying to get into anyones pockets, I love Allison and we may end up getting married, but with her having her cancer come back and getting to her brain, this is something we BOTH want to do


I've read all of your threads on this so I kind of understand where your coming from and your situation so none of what I ask is meant as being an ass.

Do you plan on adopting her for the name change or does it not bother you?
6/28/2008 6:23:54 PM EDT
[#25]

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If your name is on the birth certificate, isn't that a presumption?  Ask a lawyer, and then maybe just "fo" it.


Name is not in the BC. "fo" it?


So she don't have your last name?


We didnt think she was mine so no, she has her mothers last name



Quoted:
They should have the proof before they can get into your pockets.  You have a right to not incriminate yourself.


No one is trying to get into anyones pockets, I love Allison and we may end up getting married, but with her having her cancer come back and getting to her brain, this is something we BOTH want to do


I've read all of your threads on this so I kind of understand where your coming from and your situation so none of what I ask is meant as being an ass.

Do you plan on adopting her for the name change or does it not bother you?


She has already told me that if we do end up getting married, she wants her name changed so we all have the same last name... Either way is fine by me.
6/28/2008 6:54:30 PM EDT
[#26]

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I'll kick in $40.00 towards the test if you really want to know.  btw, can she set-up you to legally adopt her if something should happen to her?

Eric  

I'm in for $20 if we can get enough folks to pledge.

GET THE TEST DONE.  

God forbid her mom passes, you'll be left with jack shit if the grandparents don't like you.  

Even if you do get married, the adoption process can take a long time and time isn't on your side at the moment.

Cover your ass and get the test done.
6/28/2008 7:04:13 PM EDT
[#27]
Apparently home testing is available cheap ($89.00): Linky

And a news story about home testing: Linky

Not likely to hold up in court, but if you are excluded as the parent, you know that adoption is a viable solution. If home test indicates that you are the parent, you can then spring for the lab test ($400-$500).

Good luck.
6/28/2008 7:10:23 PM EDT
[#28]
You might want to talk to an attorney re: the facts and the end result you want.  I get the sense you want to be involved with the child, but for example if you are not the biological father you probably have to adopt her, while if you are the biological father it may be much easier to establish your rights.

Deciding you're just going to assume she is yours could have a bad result.  Because someone else may contest that assumption, force you to take the paternity test (i.e. in the course of a custody fight) and then if you are not on the BC, not a biological parent and did not adopt her, you may very well be SOL.

Good luck, sounds like a tough deal.

Nunya
6/28/2008 7:26:22 PM EDT
[#29]

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You might want to talk to an attorney re: the facts and the end result you want.  I get the sense you want to be involved with the child, but for example if you are not the biological father you probably have to adopt her, while if you are the biological father it may be much easier to establish your rights.

Deciding you're just going to assume she is yours could have a bad result.  Because someone else may contest that assumption, force you to take the paternity test (i.e. in the course of a custody fight) and then if you are not on the BC, not a biological parent and did not adopt her, you may very well be SOL.

Good luck, sounds like a tough deal.

Nunya

Good points here.  
$600 for a paternity test is much less money than a custody suit.
6/28/2008 7:35:48 PM EDT
[#30]

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You might want to talk to an attorney re: the facts and the end result you want.  I get the sense you want to be involved with the child, but for example if you are not the biological father you probably have to adopt her, while if you are the biological father it may be much easier to establish your rights.

Deciding you're just going to assume she is yours could have a bad result.  Because someone else may contest that assumption, force you to take the paternity test (i.e. in the course of a custody fight) and then if you are not on the BC, not a biological parent and did not adopt her, you may very well be SOL.

Good luck, sounds like a tough deal.

Nunya

Good points here.  
$600 for a paternity test is much less money than a custody suit.


Yeah you would be dumb not to do it, and it should of been done awhile ago. I would be worried if it isnt yours, that there is a chance the real father may come out of the woodwork.
6/28/2008 8:18:59 PM EDT
[#31]

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Apparently home testing is available cheap ($89.00): Linky

And a news story about home testing: Linky

Not likely to hold up in court, but if you are excluded as the parent, you know that adoption is a viable solution. If home test indicates that you are the parent, you can then spring for the lab test ($400-$500).

Good luck.



Checking that out. Thanks..  
6/28/2008 8:20:19 PM EDT
[#32]

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You might want to talk to an attorney re: the facts and the end result you want.  I get the sense you want to be involved with the child, but for example if you are not the biological father you probably have to adopt her, while if you are the biological father it may be much easier to establish your rights.

Deciding you're just going to assume she is yours could have a bad result.  Because someone else may contest that assumption, force you to take the paternity test (i.e. in the course of a custody fight) and then if you are not on the BC, not a biological parent and did not adopt her, you may very well be SOL.

Good luck, sounds like a tough deal.

Nunya

Good points here.  
$600 for a paternity test is much less money than a custody suit.


Yeah you would be dumb not to do it, and it should of been done awhile ago. I would be worried if it isnt yours, that there is a chance the real father may come out of the woodwork.


The guy she "thought" was the dad turned out not to be. Me or some other guy and he doesnt care to know. I want to know if I am or im not. I WANT to be her biological father/dad.
6/28/2008 9:12:29 PM EDT
[#33]

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The guy she "thought" was the dad turned out not to be. Me or some other guy and he doesnt care to know. I want to know if I am or im not. I WANT to be her biological father/dad.


I understand, and I think whatever you want to do, figuring that out will probably be the starting point.  Because if you're not the biological father but still want to be involved, now is the time to try to get that squared away.

I will say this and please don't take it the wrong way.  It sounds like in light of your fiancee's condition you want to raise this child even if it isn't yours.  That's noble of you, but raising a child is a commitment like no other.  I'd advise you to think very carefully about that commitment, and what it may be like to be a single parent to that child.  I'm not saying the decision is right or wrong, but it is a life changing one so just make sure you have given it due consideration.  And if you know in your heart that you have thought this through completely, then disregard this and I'm sorry to have said it.

Again, good luck.
6/28/2008 9:23:29 PM EDT
[#34]
Don't do it half assed, pay the money and get it done right.