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6/12/2008 3:39:31 PM EDT
Thought I would pass this along to the members here, if you haven't already heard about it yet.

Beginning July 1, 2008, California Penal Code Section 12072(f)(1) PROHIBITS all FFLs from shipping firearms to an FFL in California unless, prior to delivery, the FFL intending to deliver, sell or transfer the firearm obtains a verification approval number from the California Department of Justice Bureau of firearms.  This includes transfers that occur at gunshows.  The verification approval number, which the Bureau of Firearms provides in a Firearms Shipment Approval Letter, confirms that the intended recipient of the firearms shipment is properly licensed and listed in the states database of persons/entities authorized to receive firearm shipments.  If the intended CA FFL recipient is NOT listed in the states database, the transaction will result in a DO Not Ship letter, and it is a crime for the intended recipient to receive the fireams.

Just what the FFL needs, more paperwork and headaches.

Looks like I will not be shipping any guns to California.
6/12/2008 3:41:47 PM EDT
[#1]
I wonder if the fascists in the PRK Dept of (in)Justice will use this against criminals or just regular gun owners?  Anyone want to bet?
6/12/2008 3:46:17 PM EDT
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I wonder if the fascists in the PRK Dept of (in)Justice will use this against criminals or just regular gun owners?  Anyone want to bet?


Well that's the point isn't it?

The anti-gun lobby freely admits that legal guns are their target. The belief they espouse is that every gun starts off as a legal gun, but then makes it into the hands of a criminal who uses it in illegal acts. If the law abiding citizen doesn't have a gun in his home then the criminal won't be able to steal it and shoot someone, or the law abiding citizen won't be able to come home and shoot his family because he had a bad day at work. If the gun dealer can't sell to the public then there are fewer guns to be stolen, or bought by illegal dealers and resold on the street, etc., etc..
6/12/2008 3:46:35 PM EDT
[#3]
Yup, I wont deal with them anymore either, apologies to all CA residents but, hey its your fault....move.
6/12/2008 3:48:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Sounds like they are trying to run out FFLs that are off their radar screen.

6/12/2008 3:49:54 PM EDT
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Sounds like they are trying to run out FFLs that are off their radar screen.

6/12/2008 3:50:57 PM EDT
[#6]
What are the rules in California for FTF non-FFL to non-FFL transfers? Do you have to get a letter from your mom, er government, to sell a weapon to your next-door neighbor?
6/12/2008 4:23:06 PM EDT
[#7]
the approval letter is even required for gun show transfers
thevstore i manage will be posting in the am that we will
not sell firearms to ca
6/12/2008 4:40:51 PM EDT
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Sounds like they are trying to run out FFLs that are off their radar screen.



You might be right.  Just thought about it a little more, and started to think about Wholesalers.  Every time they ship to an address in PRK, even though they have dealt with them for X number of years, and have a valid FFL, they must get approval.  Which means getting an approval number from CA DOJ, enclosing a copy in the order, and maintaining a copy for their records.  It will be interesting to see what happens....