Posted: 4/21/2008 8:33:58 PM EDT
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The scientific explanation of gravitational forces cannot explain all aspects of the phenomenon. Theories explaining gravity are not internally consistent nor mathematically reconcilable with quantum mechanics, making gravity a theory littered with giant holes and gross unprovable assumptions. Curved space-time, gravitational waves, graviton elementary particles, it sounds like scientists are just copying complicated sounding terms from Star Trek in an effort to confuse the general populous for their own gain. So, credence should be given to the idea that things fall because a higher intelligence is moving them down. |
IF that was true we'd see variation within object in relation to each other's mass. It's provable that things with the higher mass win vs. each other. If it was higher power, things with less mass would win sometimes. |
Unless that higher power was God, omniscient and omnipotent and omnipresent, and willed that the higher mass would win each time. Alternatively, other supernatural forces could take up the slack of imitating regularity to confound people from the true belief in intelligent gravity. |
FAIL. Acceleration due to gravity at a fixed distance is the SAME for all objects irregardless of mass. More massive objects experience a greater force than less massive objects, resulting in the same acceleration. Drop a bowling ball and a baseball at the same time. Neither one "wins". They both impact the ground at the same time. If you're looking at it from a two-body problem (i.e., orbital mechanics) perspective, the concept of one mass "winning" has no meaning. |
FAIL The earth revolves around the sun The sun revolves around the center of our galaxy, mass has more mass then our sun. |
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Assuming no air interference: Take a large massive ball with a mass of say 10,000kg and drop it from a height of X meters and time it's fall. Then take a small plastic BB with a mass of say 0.01g and drop it from a height of X meters and time it's fall. The very massive ball will hit the ground VERY slightly faster than the plastic BB. |
FAIL again. The larger mass does not "win" in any way. It is the system under consideration - its center of mass, actually - that matters. Look up some typical solutions to the two-body problem. |
If the objects are not of equal physical size, then this is technically true, as when the larger object's center of mass is off of the ground, the edge of the object will have touched the ground. Consider, instead, two perfect spheres of exactly the same external dimensions. One is made out of tungsten, while the other is made out of aluminum. Hence, the first ball is more massive than the second. However, if both are dropped from the same height, they will both impact the ground exactly simultaneously. |
Let me clarify my example - each ball in my example has the exact same diameter. On separate drops, the massive ball will hit the ground VERY slightly faster than the very low mass ball. Remember - on each drop the earth is also being "pulled" towards each ball with a force that is proportional to the mass of the ball. The very massive ball "pulls" the earth towards it with more acceleration than the very low-mass ball does. Hence, the very massive ball and earth collide VERY SLIGHTLY faster than the very low-mass ball and earth would. Just imagine if you take a meteor and place it 500 miles away from the earth and then release it and time how long it takes until it crashes to earth. Then take Jupiter and place it 500 miles away from earth and then release it and time how long it takes until it crashes into the earth. If done on separate drops, Jupiter will pull the earth 500 miles "up" faster than the meteor will "fall" 500 miles to earth. It's all relative. 
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Ah, using a two-body problem approach, not a typical (for falling balls) single-body approach. Gotcha. But then remember that you are neglecting all other bodies in space, and assuming an empty Earth (other than the single dropped ball). Oh, and neither the Earth nor the meteor would travel the 500 miles. Both of the objects - Earth/Meteor and Jupiter/Earth - are moving toward each other. This is as viewed from a fixed frame of reference, as one attached to either body is not an inertial frame (the bodies are accelerating) and is therefore of questionable usefulness in these matters. |
heNewton's laws. Trivial H.S. mechanical physics. You fail ... literally. |
I'm not sure the theory of mass warping space, causing matter to move towards each other has ever been obseved... well, yeah, gravity has been observed. But I don't think that explanation can be proven one way or the other, at this point. I don't really know. Someone who knows more about it chime in. |
Who the fuck is talking about acceleration? I'm not. If something weighs more, it's going to attract a lesser object in space. Jesus fuck people. |
And guess what? The less massive object attracts the more massive one right back, with exactly the same force. Gravity does not work one-way; both objects always attract one another equally. |
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Explain how our sun is gravitationally bound to the center of our galaxy then? |
They attract each other with the same force, but it takes much more force to move the more massive object than the smaller one. People are 
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Yes so the more massive object wins, right? |
Do you know what the (classical) two-body problem is? Do you understand the underlying physics at work in solving the two-body problem? Everything is bound to everything else by gravity; there is not some single mass that all other masses are drawn to. There are EQUAL BUT OPPOSITE forces of attraction between any two pairs of masses, as defined by F = G (m*m) / R^2 |
Dude, no. The force necessary to move an object is dependent on mass. Mass is not gravity. |
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The theory of gravity is as much faith based as the theory of intelligent falling. Both require you to believe things that you can't personally observe... who's ever seen a "graviton"? scientists haven't even detected one yet! I can't believe so many sheeple sit there and just mindlessly believe what some athiest scientists say to further their own godless goals. 
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Right, cause all the other FACTS in the bible are so credible. Of course we should believe gravity comes from jeebus. |
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