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2/24/2008 7:32:12 PM EDT
As I was churning out some .44 mags today to blast away in the back yard, the thought crossed my mind, and what better place to ask than here?

Well, where did it all start, and with what?
2/24/2008 7:33:58 PM EDT
[#1]
My guess is that it started about five minutes after the first brass cartridge was fired. It’s been around a long time.
2/24/2008 7:34:04 PM EDT
[#2]
As long as cartridges have been around.
2/24/2008 7:34:25 PM EDT
[#3]
Probably about as long as firearms have been around. Well ones that use cases anyway.
2/24/2008 7:36:16 PM EDT
[#4]
What was the first commercially available reloader?
2/24/2008 7:39:12 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
What was the first commercially available reloader?


I could be wrong but i believe it was the Lyman Tong tool. it was a hand operated tool
2/24/2008 7:44:57 PM EDT
[#6]
Check me if I'm wrong, but I think Sharps gave away a do-it-all reloading tool with their first metallic cartridge rifles.
2/24/2008 7:45:45 PM EDT
[#7]
Back in the day, sporting rifles were often supplied with bullet molds and reloading tools.

Reloading took off after WWII as interest in sporterizing surplus rifles and wildcatting became popular.


2/24/2008 7:45:52 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What was the first commercially available reloader?


I could be wrong but i believe it was the Lyman Tong tool. it was a hand operated tool


Winchester and sharps both sold similar tools. I would guess they existed before the Lyman 310 tool.

Reloading has existed since the first reloadable cases were introduced. Quite a few of the first metallic, self contained cartridge cases were not reloadable. Some, even large calibers, were rimfire, and others were made of materials that didn't allow for reuse.
2/24/2008 7:53:49 PM EDT
[#9]
I recall reading about Westerners casting bullets and making black powder loads for cartridge firearms in the 1800's.

I also recall reading that a big selling point for pinfire arms was the ease of reloading.
Very important to someone who is away from the general store for a long time, or can't afford factory loads.

A long time.
2/24/2008 8:57:20 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What was the first commercially available reloader?


I could be wrong but i believe it was the Lyman Tong tool. it was a hand operated tool


Anything like this?







.38 Special and it still works I'm sure, although I haven't used it in years!
2/24/2008 9:06:08 PM EDT
[#11]
I'm guessing "reloading" happened at least after the first Chinaman fired that first blackpowder firearm. But I may be mistaken.

"FIRE!!"

"RELOAD!"

It probably sounds better in Chinese.
2/24/2008 9:09:43 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I'm guessing "reloading" happened at least after the first Chinaman fired that first blackpowder firearm. But I may be mistaken.

"FIRE!!"

"RELOAD!"

It probably sounds better in Chinese.


Swing and a miss.
2/24/2008 9:20:41 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm guessing "reloading" happened at least after the first Chinaman fired that first blackpowder firearm. But I may be mistaken.

"FIRE!!"

"RELOAD!"

It probably sounds better in Chinese.


Swing and a miss.


Miss what? Baseball was invented in China? Please elaborate.
2/24/2008 9:24:46 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
What was the first commercially available reloader?


Don't know the first but I'm sure it was a ramrod that came with the gun.
2/24/2008 9:26:16 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What was the first commercially available reloader?


Don't know the first but I'm sure it was a ramrod that came with the gun.


Attaboy!!
2/25/2008 6:27:13 AM EDT
[#16]
Became popular after "non-mercuric" primers.

The very early primers contained mercury, and the residue would weaken the brass cartridge,  making the once-fired brass more susceptible to splitting and rupture.
2/25/2008 6:37:07 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Became popular after "non-mercuric" primers.

The very early primers contained mercury, and the residue would weaken the brass cartridge,  making the once-fired brass more susceptible to splitting and rupture.


Not true.  Black powder contains substantial amounts of sulfur which would convert the residual metallic mercury to mercury sulfide, preventing damage.  When smokeless powder was used, the lack of sulfur led to the brass embrittlement problem so corrosive priming, a non-mercuric type, was introduced.  The need for non-corrosive priming was from gas-operated firearms like the M1 carbine which couldn't be easily cleaned.
2/25/2008 10:56:33 AM EDT
[#18]
Might ask to get this moved to the Reloading forum now that lots of eyes have seen it in GD.... it'll be around longer in that forum.

IIRC, right around the time of the first brass cartridges, the .mil mandated that all their shit be reloadable, and they had a very "Wal-Mart-y" regional distribution center model to facilitate this.

Of course, I'd imagine that reloading in its purest form was around a bit earlier, as a necessity for the R&D function.
2/25/2008 11:11:07 AM EDT
[#19]
HARK!  

Long ago, when the God of Gods cast Adam and Eve from the Garden, Adam felt shame and sorrow.

"The fault lies with you, O woman," he said.  

And in his anguish for the things he had lost, Adam picketh a stone from the ground, and bounced it hard off of the fair skull of Eve, cleaving her head.  Seeing that it was good, he picketh the same stone again to repeat it.  

But Eve pointed to her pelvis and the knowledge of good and evil she know Adam desired there, and said:  

"Hiteth me with thoust rock again and you shan't get the friction of my loins tonight, Adam"

And Adam, though highly agitated in his nethers, was nevertheless enraged by the threat of his Eve.   He threw the stone again, and he picked it  up, and thew it again, and he picked it up, and thew it again.  

But Eve was true to her word and withheld her favors, citing the pain in her mind engendered by the flying stone.  Adam was sad, and felt woe in his heart, and pain in his manhood.

And God said:   "Let the reuse of your battle implements be called reloading, and the excuse of the woman a "headache," and pain in your nethers  the "blueth orbs."

And all was good.
2/25/2008 12:49:29 PM EDT
[#20]
What do you think the owner of the first musket did after firing his first shot?

Yeah, its been around since the first black powder projectile devices.
2/25/2008 1:02:18 PM EDT
[#21]
Sling shot, then bow and arrow, then black powder
2/25/2008 1:03:50 PM EDT
[#22]
Reloading began with the invention of the first firearm that did not self-destruct on its initial firing.
2/25/2008 1:11:01 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Reloading began with the invention of the first firearm that did not self-destruct on its initial firing.


Nonsense.  Glocks haven't been around that long.  Otherwise they might have a carbine now...